WSU has been thinking about reviving football, so there's that.

(03-22-2017 05:38 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-22-2017 04:42 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  First off, believe it when you see it...

I don't see it affecting CUSA in anyway.

this....simple knee 'beef' jerky....

the end game is going to be so different in 4 years.....and I'm finished with that 'opine'....

I really don't give a shite at this pint guzzle....

I put this into google translate but I didn't work out so well. I literally have no clue what this guy is saying. What language is this?

He says people are just giving knee jerk reactions and that in four years, things will look very different from what we know today. He's done with it all after seeing it play out over the past couple decades and he doesn't give a rip what happens.

(03-23-2017 08:51 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  He says people are just giving knee jerk reactions and that in four years, things will look very different from what we know today. He's done with it all after seeing it play out over the past couple decades and he doesn't give a rip what happens.

(03-22-2017 06:34 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(03-22-2017 06:25 PM)MU ATO Wrote:  LOL... No. Wichita State is Gregg Marshall. He's been there a decade and it's been their best years since their 80s heyday which wasn't much. They won the MVC a couple times in the 80s & won it a couple times recently under Marshall. Marshall has been biding his time for the right job to open up. Without him they are the same ole Wichita State. Having grown up watching MVC hoops I've seen a lot of them and while they are respectable, in my expert opinion the AAC doesn't need them unless they are just hell bent on getting 12 hoops schools.

Wichita is paying Marshall $3.3 million per year. If and when he leaves, the school should be able to hire another top coach.

No doubt Wichita State can afford a top coach, but can they get one? Most $3.3 million coaches are not going to the MVC because they have already reached a level where they have better options. Marshall makes $3.3 million because that is what they have had to do to keep him there. When he arrived at the Shockers he was a low minor (?) coach at Winthrop (Big South conference) and WSU was a nice step up.

At a time when all of the non-P5 conferences are starting to see the writing on the wall that the TV money is crumbling along with ESPN, most schools are asking if conference consolidation would make more sense. WSU is pretty late to the party if they are trying to figure out if travelling 1300 miles to play volleyball makes sense.

(03-23-2017 09:21 AM)Nugget49er Wrote:  

(03-22-2017 06:34 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(03-22-2017 06:25 PM)MU ATO Wrote:  LOL... No. Wichita State is Gregg Marshall. He's been there a decade and it's been their best years since their 80s heyday which wasn't much. They won the MVC a couple times in the 80s & won it a couple times recently under Marshall. Marshall has been biding his time for the right job to open up. Without him they are the same ole Wichita State. Having grown up watching MVC hoops I've seen a lot of them and while they are respectable, in my expert opinion the AAC doesn't need them unless they are just hell bent on getting 12 hoops schools.

Wichita is paying Marshall $3.3 million per year. If and when he leaves, the school should be able to hire another top coach.

No doubt Wichita State can afford a top coach, but can they get one? Most $3.3 million coaches are not going to the MVC because they have already reached a level where they have better options. Marshall makes $3.3 million because that is what they have had to do to keep him there. When he arrived at the Shockers he was a low minor (?) coach at Winthrop (Big South conference) and WSU was a nice step up.

At a time when all of the non-P5 conferences are starting to see the writing on the wall that the TV money is crumbling along with ESPN, most schools are asking if conference consolidation would make more sense. WSU is pretty late to the party if they are trying to figure out if travelling 1300 miles to play volleyball makes sense.

If and when Marshall leaves Wichita, I don't think the school has any intention of paying anyone a top ten starting salary which is what they pay now. What the money means is that they can easily offer a new coach substantially more than the vast majority of non-P6 schools, well into 7 figures. And they would have an easier time recruiting that coach to the AAC rather than to the MVC or, for that matter, keeping Marshall.

It's up to Wichita if its interests are better served by consolidating conferences or traveling 1300 miles to play volleyball in a new conference. Its main concern seems to be basketball seeding.

I think the possibility of Connecticut leaving the AAC will have a greater effect on C-USA than anything Wichita State does or does not do.

https://www.fanragsports.com/cbb/rothste...all-heats/

http://www.foxsports.com/college-footbal...nce-021017

(03-23-2017 09:52 AM)blazerjay Wrote:  I think the possibility of Connecticut leaving the AAC will have a greater effect on C-USA than anything Wichita State does or does not do.

UConn has the same basic problem that a lot of schools have: they don't really like their current conference home, but there's no better options to be had.

(03-23-2017 09:45 AM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 09:21 AM)Nugget49er Wrote:  

(03-22-2017 06:34 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(03-22-2017 06:25 PM)MU ATO Wrote:  LOL... No. Wichita State is Gregg Marshall. He's been there a decade and it's been their best years since their 80s heyday which wasn't much. They won the MVC a couple times in the 80s & won it a couple times recently under Marshall. Marshall has been biding his time for the right job to open up. Without him they are the same ole Wichita State. Having grown up watching MVC hoops I've seen a lot of them and while they are respectable, in my expert opinion the AAC doesn't need them unless they are just hell bent on getting 12 hoops schools.

Wichita is paying Marshall $3.3 million per year. If and when he leaves, the school should be able to hire another top coach.

No doubt Wichita State can afford a top coach, but can they get one? Most $3.3 million coaches are not going to the MVC because they have already reached a level where they have better options. Marshall makes $3.3 million because that is what they have had to do to keep him there. When he arrived at the Shockers he was a low minor (?) coach at Winthrop (Big South conference) and WSU was a nice step up.

At a time when all of the non-P5 conferences are starting to see the writing on the wall that the TV money is crumbling along with ESPN, most schools are asking if conference consolidation would make more sense. WSU is pretty late to the party if they are trying to figure out if travelling 1300 miles to play volleyball makes sense.

If and when Marshall leaves Wichita, I don't think the school has any intention of paying anyone a top ten starting salary which is what they pay now. What the money means is that they can easily offer a new coach substantially more than the vast majority of non-P6 schools, well into 7 figures. And they would have an easier time recruiting that coach to the AAC rather than to the MVC or, for that matter, keeping Marshall.

It's up to Wichita if its interests are better served by consolidating conferences or traveling 1300 miles to play volleyball in a new conference. Its main concern seems to be basketball seeding.

I said P5, and you said P6. I like that you believe that.

(03-23-2017 10:33 AM)Nugget49er Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 09:45 AM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 09:21 AM)Nugget49er Wrote:  

(03-22-2017 06:34 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(03-22-2017 06:25 PM)MU ATO Wrote:  LOL... No. Wichita State is Gregg Marshall. He's been there a decade and it's been their best years since their 80s heyday which wasn't much. They won the MVC a couple times in the 80s & won it a couple times recently under Marshall. Marshall has been biding his time for the right job to open up. Without him they are the same ole Wichita State. Having grown up watching MVC hoops I've seen a lot of them and while they are respectable, in my expert opinion the AAC doesn't need them unless they are just hell bent on getting 12 hoops schools.

Wichita is paying Marshall $3.3 million per year. If and when he leaves, the school should be able to hire another top coach.

No doubt Wichita State can afford a top coach, but can they get one? Most $3.3 million coaches are not going to the MVC because they have already reached a level where they have better options. Marshall makes $3.3 million because that is what they have had to do to keep him there. When he arrived at the Shockers he was a low minor (?) coach at Winthrop (Big South conference) and WSU was a nice step up.

At a time when all of the non-P5 conferences are starting to see the writing on the wall that the TV money is crumbling along with ESPN, most schools are asking if conference consolidation would make more sense. WSU is pretty late to the party if they are trying to figure out if travelling 1300 miles to play volleyball makes sense.

If and when Marshall leaves Wichita, I don't think the school has any intention of paying anyone a top ten starting salary which is what they pay now. What the money means is that they can easily offer a new coach substantially more than the vast majority of non-P6 schools, well into 7 figures. And they would have an easier time recruiting that coach to the AAC rather than to the MVC or, for that matter, keeping Marshall.

It's up to Wichita if its interests are better served by consolidating conferences or traveling 1300 miles to play volleyball in a new conference. Its main concern seems to be basketball seeding.

I said P5, and you said P6. I like that you believe that.

Well, there's the Big East. That would make 6. I'm assuming that's not what he meant, but...

(03-23-2017 10:33 AM)Nugget49er Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 09:45 AM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 09:21 AM)Nugget49er Wrote:  

(03-22-2017 06:34 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(03-22-2017 06:25 PM)MU ATO Wrote:  LOL... No. Wichita State is Gregg Marshall. He's been there a decade and it's been their best years since their 80s heyday which wasn't much. They won the MVC a couple times in the 80s & won it a couple times recently under Marshall. Marshall has been biding his time for the right job to open up. Without him they are the same ole Wichita State. Having grown up watching MVC hoops I've seen a lot of them and while they are respectable, in my expert opinion the AAC doesn't need them unless they are just hell bent on getting 12 hoops schools.

Wichita is paying Marshall $3.3 million per year. If and when he leaves, the school should be able to hire another top coach.

No doubt Wichita State can afford a top coach, but can they get one? Most $3.3 million coaches are not going to the MVC because they have already reached a level where they have better options. Marshall makes $3.3 million because that is what they have had to do to keep him there. When he arrived at the Shockers he was a low minor (?) coach at Winthrop (Big South conference) and WSU was a nice step up.

At a time when all of the non-P5 conferences are starting to see the writing on the wall that the TV money is crumbling along with ESPN, most schools are asking if conference consolidation would make more sense. WSU is pretty late to the party if they are trying to figure out if travelling 1300 miles to play volleyball makes sense.

If and when Marshall leaves Wichita, I don't think the school has any intention of paying anyone a top ten starting salary which is what they pay now. What the money means is that they can easily offer a new coach substantially more than the vast majority of non-P6 schools, well into 7 figures. And they would have an easier time recruiting that coach to the AAC rather than to the MVC or, for that matter, keeping Marshall.

It's up to Wichita if its interests are better served by consolidating conferences or traveling 1300 miles to play volleyball in a new conference. Its main concern seems to be basketball seeding.

I said P5, and you said P6. I like that you believe that.

For basketball I include the Big East, the SEC, the ACC, the BIG, the Pac, and the Big12 as the P6. That's six. Most others do as well, though I dislike the creep of football terminology into basketball.

(03-23-2017 10:33 AM)Nugget49er Wrote:  I said P5, and you said P6. I like that you believe that.

you mad bro?

(03-22-2017 04:42 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  First off, believe it when you see it...

I don't see it affecting CUSA in anyway.

I agree. No affect to CUSA.

(03-23-2017 12:00 PM)Thunderingturds Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 10:33 AM)Nugget49er Wrote:  I said P5, and you said P6. I like that you believe that.

you mad bro?

Only at the NCAA, sports media, and my own team's lack of success.

(03-23-2017 11:04 AM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 10:33 AM)Nugget49er Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 09:45 AM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 09:21 AM)Nugget49er Wrote:  

(03-22-2017 06:34 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  Wichita is paying Marshall $3.3 million per year. If and when he leaves, the school should be able to hire another top coach.

No doubt Wichita State can afford a top coach, but can they get one? Most $3.3 million coaches are not going to the MVC because they have already reached a level where they have better options. Marshall makes $3.3 million because that is what they have had to do to keep him there. When he arrived at the Shockers he was a low minor (?) coach at Winthrop (Big South conference) and WSU was a nice step up.

At a time when all of the non-P5 conferences are starting to see the writing on the wall that the TV money is crumbling along with ESPN, most schools are asking if conference consolidation would make more sense. WSU is pretty late to the party if they are trying to figure out if travelling 1300 miles to play volleyball makes sense.

If and when Marshall leaves Wichita, I don't think the school has any intention of paying anyone a top ten starting salary which is what they pay now. What the money means is that they can easily offer a new coach substantially more than the vast majority of non-P6 schools, well into 7 figures. And they would have an easier time recruiting that coach to the AAC rather than to the MVC or, for that matter, keeping Marshall.

It's up to Wichita if its interests are better served by consolidating conferences or traveling 1300 miles to play volleyball in a new conference. Its main concern seems to be basketball seeding.

I said P5, and you said P6. I like that you believe that.

For basketball I include the Big East, the SEC, the ACC, the BIG, the Pac, and the Big12 as the P6. That's six. Most others do as well, though I dislike the creep of football terminology into basketball.

I just call them "High Major" or just "The Power Conferences." Most of the time people understand what I am saying eventually. I agree that football terminology shouldn't be used when describing basketball.

(03-23-2017 08:51 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  He says people are just giving knee jerk reactions and that in four years, things will look very different from what we know today. He's done with it all after seeing it play out over the past couple decades and he doesn't give a rip what happens.

EagNBran speaks stink!

Not sure why the Koch Brothers don't take some of their spare millions and underwrite a FB Team at Wichita State to go along with the BB Program they have already funded Wouldn't even feel a pinch in their Oversized Wallets. Seriously, Shockers do have a superior BB Program. If they added a FB program, CUSA could do worse than considering them. With ARESCO at the helm of AAC, won't surprise me to see WSU head in that direction with no visible impact on us either way.

(03-23-2017 08:49 AM)odu09 Wrote:  

(03-22-2017 05:38 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-22-2017 04:42 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  First off, believe it when you see it...

I don't see it affecting CUSA in anyway.

this....simple knee 'beef' jerky....

the end game is going to be so different in 4 years.....and I'm finished with that 'opine'....

I really don't give a shite at this pint guzzle....

I put this into google translate but I didn't work out so well. I literally have no clue what this guy is saying. What language is this?

oh, golly gee...

let me explain da speakage (once again)

"knee jerk" should be self explanatory....

"end game" is where I see the elite breaking off and the rest trying to figure out how to survive....hence, why witchy state/aack

"pint guzzle".....does that really need an explanation???

hope that helped...

(03-23-2017 08:51 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  He says people are just giving knee jerk reactions and that in four years, things will look very different from what we know today. He's done with it all after seeing it play out over the past couple decades and he doesn't give a rip what happens.

(03-23-2017 10:33 AM)Nugget49er Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 09:45 AM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 09:21 AM)Nugget49er Wrote:  

(03-22-2017 06:34 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(03-22-2017 06:25 PM)MU ATO Wrote:  LOL... No. Wichita State is Gregg Marshall. He's been there a decade and it's been their best years since their 80s heyday which wasn't much. They won the MVC a couple times in the 80s & won it a couple times recently under Marshall. Marshall has been biding his time for the right job to open up. Without him they are the same ole Wichita State. Having grown up watching MVC hoops I've seen a lot of them and while they are respectable, in my expert opinion the AAC doesn't need them unless they are just hell bent on getting 12 hoops schools.

Wichita is paying Marshall $3.3 million per year. If and when he leaves, the school should be able to hire another top coach.

No doubt Wichita State can afford a top coach, but can they get one? Most $3.3 million coaches are not going to the MVC because they have already reached a level where they have better options. Marshall makes $3.3 million because that is what they have had to do to keep him there. When he arrived at the Shockers he was a low minor (?) coach at Winthrop (Big South conference) and WSU was a nice step up.

At a time when all of the non-P5 conferences are starting to see the writing on the wall that the TV money is crumbling along with ESPN, most schools are asking if conference consolidation would make more sense. WSU is pretty late to the party if they are trying to figure out if travelling 1300 miles to play volleyball makes sense.

If and when Marshall leaves Wichita, I don't think the school has any intention of paying anyone a top ten starting salary which is what they pay now. What the money means is that they can easily offer a new coach substantially more than the vast majority of non-P6 schools, well into 7 figures. And they would have an easier time recruiting that coach to the AAC rather than to the MVC or, for that matter, keeping Marshall.

It's up to Wichita if its interests are better served by consolidating conferences or traveling 1300 miles to play volleyball in a new conference. Its main concern seems to be basketball seeding.

I said P5, and you said P6. I like that you believe that.

I like that the poster uses a lame ass football term when talking college hoops.