Bobcat87
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RE: TROY vs Duke gameday thread
(03-18-2017 07:24 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote: (03-18-2017 05:13 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote: (03-18-2017 04:53 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote: (03-18-2017 04:48 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote: (03-18-2017 03:41 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote: UTA also beat a St. Mary team that has a 29-4 record (where the other 3 losses all came to #1 seed Gonzaga). By the way, St. Mary beat VCU in the first round and is playing Arizona in the second round of the tournament tonight. USA beat Troy twice this season, but I wouldn't say USA was the better team. I stand by my comments that UTA could have won a game.
Again, Supposition.
I take nothing away from UTA, they had a great year, but when it came time to "get it done." They didn't.
So, we'll never know what "they might have done in the tournament."
You can "say" they might have won a game. .. . they also might have wilted on the "Big Stage."
The supposition argument goes both ways -- you can't say they might have wilted. I offered my opinion -- nothing more, nothing less.
Actually, that's not true. IF you can say they "might" have won a game or two. Then you can also "suppose" that they "might" have wilted. And I never actually said they would have wilted, merely allowed for the possibility.
Bottom line: We'll never know.
WOULDA, COULDA, SHOULDA
You're arguing a subjective point with a subjective point. The point that UTA could win a game in the tournament has basis in fact, as UTA owns wins over St. Mary's, Texas, every team in conference, and played Arkansas tough on the road early as Hervey was gaining his playing legs. Overall, the Mavs went 3-3 against teams in the NCAA tournament this year.
Your basing your point that we lost to you twice, including a tournament setting. Saying we could fall on our face like last time has no more merit in fact than the other statement.
What is almost universally accepted, except maybe in San Marcos, is that UTA represented the best chance for a win in the NCAA tourney. Our RPI was higher, our resume better and record was the best of any team in the SBC. No question, our seeding would have been better, allowing the Mavs to play a more favorable opponent.
No one here is saying we would have won. But, we could have, and if you don't think so then there's nothing we can say to convince you otherwise.
WoW -
All those stats you cite are niiiice, and ohhh soooo impressive. Yet, when you were in a position to win, and get to The Big Dance, ya choked . . . so we'll never know.
And that, sports fans, was my ONLY point . . We'll never know.
Y'all can talk your schedule, RPI, resume, ya da ya da ya da, but when it was money time, UTA lost, period, end of story, but do feel free to imagine, suppose, guess the WOULDA, COULDA, SHOULDA . . .
Hell, that's half the fun of being a sports fan.
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