(03-10-2017 06:35 PM)Shrack Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 06:26 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 06:18 PM)MarshallHerdFanz Wrote:  Realistically what would seeding look like if Marshall wins for both teams?

I think Marshall 16 MTSU 14

MTSU will have a 44 RPI or so if they lose to Marshall. Can't imagine that being a 14 seed, but who knows I guess. They'll have wins over 3 different NCAA tourney teams if that's the case right (UNC-W, Vandy, Marshall if they win) and decent wins over Ole Miss and Belmont? And multiple ones were blowout wins.

They were a 15 seed last year with an RPI of 78 and only a single RPI 95 win against Belmont in the regular season. Not to mention they beat Michigan State. That will raise their profile for this year.

Then UAB was a 14 seed the year before with a 130 RPI and just a few decent wins and tons of losses

Of course the conference is a lot worse, so that might be all that matters.

Last season SDSU finished with an RPI of 41 in the #13 rated league. St Mary's finished with an RPI of 38 in the #14 rated league. Both were left out of the tournament. It could end up a lot worse than a 14 seed. I won't complain if they get a 12-13 seed.

(03-10-2017 06:48 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 06:08 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 05:59 PM)theboro Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 05:18 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 05:02 PM)MTowho Wrote:  We are locked in. I don't see Marshall beating us. Birmingham is always kind to MT - it'll be the third city we've beaten this Marshall team in this year.

If marshall plays like we did today. You are going to lose. Its that simple. We play like we did against ODU, then wd get blown out.

The outcome is solely based on what Marshall team shows up. Your absolute best, can not beat Marshalls best. The ceiling is higher for us, but our average is much lower than yours.

Middle has a 80% chance to win in my book. But Marshall has a chsnce if we come out like this again.

This is the dumbest thing you have ever posted. Even for you, and that's a high bar.
You made 12 3s in two games COMBINED against us. Your gimmick **** doesn't work against good teams. If it did, you wouldn't be the sixth seed. Remember who keeps ending your seasons every time you think you're great.

You're a joke. Yeah, we couldn't drop it in the ocean against you twice. Our gimmick as you call it, comes and goes. There was no defense for what happened to la tech today. You are delusional. If that happens tomorrow, you lose. Its that simple. You are a fool to think otherwise.

Have we not embarrassed you enoihh this season? Youve got on here saying similar crap the last two games this season and we smaked you guys around both times. Dont you think there is a reason Marshall has "off" nights everytime we play.

ODU and LaTech have both beaten us this year, too. Nobody doesn't believe you're probably going to win. And I agree both teams A game and you win 9 out of 10. But upsets happen all the time.

Well to be fair when we played you in Huntington our entire team had the flu.

With that said, we whooped you all last season in Huntington and then Davis adjusted his defense after seeing us once and the three games since then have been ass kickings for the Herd. Dantoni has yet to figure out how to counter. He gets another chance tomorrow, let's see what he can do.

Guess it isn't possible for one team to shoot lights out 2 games in a row...Marshall can do it...will they, is the question

(03-10-2017 06:37 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 05:18 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 05:02 PM)MTowho Wrote:  We are locked in. I don't see Marshall beating us. Birmingham is always kind to MT - it'll be the third city we've beaten this Marshall team in this year.

If marshall plays like we did today. You are going to lose. Its that simple. We play like we did against ODU, then wd get blown out.

The outcome is solely based on what Marshall team shows up. Your absolute best, can not beat Marshalls best. The ceiling is higher for us, but our average is much lower than yours.

Middle has a 80% chance to win in my book. But Marshall has a chsnce if we come out like this again.

Of all the dumb things you say this might be the dumbest. If we play our best game there are only a handful of teams in the nation who can beat MT. That's what happened with Michigan St last year and this team is an order of magnitude better than last years. If they play their best game it will automatically mean that you guys don't because the Raiders will harass Marshall defensively, force bad shots and out rebound them.

I'm not saying MT wins. It may take their best game to win but if Marshall does get MTs A game the Herd has little chance.

You don't understand what he's saying. Any team that can shoot threes well is deadly in college basketball, it is the great equalizer in NCAA hoops. MTSU is definitely more talented but that display of 3 point shooting Marshall put on negates any talent advantage. BTW Rebounds dont matter when a team is shooting that well

On the flip side no team can consistently shoot that well and that is where talent has the edge

MTSU, I know this has been mentioned, but do a conference brother a solid. Elmore , Loop, Taylor and Burks are banged up. 4th game in 4 days. Do like the P5s and take a dive. Then we get two teams in the big dance and more $ for everybody? What do you say?

no

(03-10-2017 08:13 PM)Herd2believe Wrote:  MTSU, I know this has been mentioned, but do a conference brother a solid. Elmore , Loop, Taylor and Burks are banged up. 4th game in 4 days. Do like the P5s and take a dive. Then we get two teams in the big dance and more $ for everybody? What do you say?

(03-10-2017 07:51 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 06:37 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 05:18 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 05:02 PM)MTowho Wrote:  We are locked in. I don't see Marshall beating us. Birmingham is always kind to MT - it'll be the third city we've beaten this Marshall team in this year.

If marshall plays like we did today. You are going to lose. Its that simple. We play like we did against ODU, then wd get blown out.

The outcome is solely based on what Marshall team shows up. Your absolute best, can not beat Marshalls best. The ceiling is higher for us, but our average is much lower than yours.

Middle has a 80% chance to win in my book. But Marshall has a chsnce if we come out like this again.

Of all the dumb things you say this might be the dumbest. If we play our best game there are only a handful of teams in the nation who can beat MT. That's what happened with Michigan St last year and this team is an order of magnitude better than last years. If they play their best game it will automatically mean that you guys don't because the Raiders will harass Marshall defensively, force bad shots and out rebound them.

I'm not saying MT wins. It may take their best game to win but if Marshall does get MTs A game the Herd has little chance.

You don't understand what he's saying. Any team that can shoot threes well is deadly in college basketball, it is the great equalizer in NCAA hoops. MTSU is definitely more talented but that display of 3 point shooting Marshall put on negates any talent advantage. BTW Rebounds dont matter when a team is shooting that well

On the flip side no team can consistently shoot that well and that is where talent has the edge

No, you are missing my point. We play defense. No offense to Tech, but defense! Quite good at the defense thing too, which is what we've done this year against Marshall in the other two games. Play good defense against outside shooters and they miss shots. So, yeah rebounds matter.

(03-10-2017 09:41 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 07:51 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 06:37 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 05:18 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 05:02 PM)MTowho Wrote:  We are locked in. I don't see Marshall beating us. Birmingham is always kind to MT - it'll be the third city we've beaten this Marshall team in this year.

If marshall plays like we did today. You are going to lose. Its that simple. We play like we did against ODU, then wd get blown out.

The outcome is solely based on what Marshall team shows up. Your absolute best, can not beat Marshalls best. The ceiling is higher for us, but our average is much lower than yours.

Middle has a 80% chance to win in my book. But Marshall has a chsnce if we come out like this again.

Of all the dumb things you say this might be the dumbest. If we play our best game there are only a handful of teams in the nation who can beat MT. That's what happened with Michigan St last year and this team is an order of magnitude better than last years. If they play their best game it will automatically mean that you guys don't because the Raiders will harass Marshall defensively, force bad shots and out rebound them.

I'm not saying MT wins. It may take their best game to win but if Marshall does get MTs A game the Herd has little chance.

You don't understand what he's saying. Any team that can shoot threes well is deadly in college basketball, it is the great equalizer in NCAA hoops. MTSU is definitely more talented but that display of 3 point shooting Marshall put on negates any talent advantage. BTW Rebounds dont matter when a team is shooting that well

On the flip side no team can consistently shoot that well and that is where talent has the edge

No, you are missing my point. We play defense. No offense to Tech, but we play real defense. Quite good at the defense thing too, which is what we've done this year against Marshall in the other two games. Play good defense against outside shooters and they miss shots. So, yeah rebounds matter.

Yes -- not sure if people realize this but we are #21 in scoring defense nationally. Only 0.1ppg behind Villanova.

(03-10-2017 05:59 PM)theboro Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 05:18 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 05:02 PM)MTowho Wrote:  We are locked in. I don't see Marshall beating us. Birmingham is always kind to MT - it'll be the third city we've beaten this Marshall team in this year.

If marshall plays like we did today. You are going to lose. Its that simple. We play like we did against ODU, then wd get blown out.

The outcome is solely based on what Marshall team shows up. Your absolute best, can not beat Marshalls best. The ceiling is higher for us, but our average is much lower than yours.

Middle has a 80% chance to win in my book. But Marshall has a chsnce if we come out like this again.

This is the dumbest thing you have ever posted. Even for you, and that's a high bar.
You made 12 3s in two games COMBINED against us. Your gimmick **** doesn't work against good teams. If it did, you wouldn't be the sixth seed. Remember who keeps ending your seasons every time you think you're great.

Lol someone needs to be knocked down a level..... Obviously you yourself have never been in a championship game. Talk is cheap. Remember who spanked your high school football team this past year ?

(03-10-2017 11:04 PM)THUNDER8718 Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 05:59 PM)theboro Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 05:18 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 05:02 PM)MTowho Wrote:  We are locked in. I don't see Marshall beating us. Birmingham is always kind to MT - it'll be the third city we've beaten this Marshall team in this year.

If marshall plays like we did today. You are going to lose. Its that simple. We play like we did against ODU, then wd get blown out.

The outcome is solely based on what Marshall team shows up. Your absolute best, can not beat Marshalls best. The ceiling is higher for us, but our average is much lower than yours.

Middle has a 80% chance to win in my book. But Marshall has a chsnce if we come out like this again.

This is the dumbest thing you have ever posted. Even for you, and that's a high bar.
You made 12 3s in two games COMBINED against us. Your gimmick **** doesn't work against good teams. If it did, you wouldn't be the sixth seed. Remember who keeps ending your seasons every time you think you're great.

Lol someone needs to be knocked down a level..... Obviously you yourself have never been in a championship game. Talk is cheap. Remember who spanked your high school football team this past year ?

This is basketball...who cares about who beat who in football...doesn't matter

I can't believe any Marshall fan is talking junk to Middle fans. They are simply a better team than us. Yes, if Loop, Browning and Elmore are all hitting then we have a shot. It's hard, even for a very good defensive team, which Middle is, to defend three outside shooters. To win we have to shoot about 50% from 3 and that will be hard to do the way they contest. We don't have an answer for their inside game.

(03-10-2017 11:18 PM)banker Wrote:  I can't believe any Marshall fan is talking junk to Middle fans. They are simply a better team than us. Yes, if Loop, Browning and Elmore are all hitting then we have a shot. It's hard, even for a very good defensive team, which Middle is, to defend three outside shooters. To win we have to shoot about 50% from 3 and that will be hard to do the way they contest. We don't have an answer for their inside game.

I don't consider what I am saying smack talk. I have clearly stated that Middle is a better team. Has a much higher average baseline game. Still, noy many, if any teams in the nation, can beat someone that shoots like we did against tech from 3. Sure, middle plays good defense, but we also missed so many shots i have seen us make time and time again. Its also hard to beat someone 3 tines in a season.

Middle is the favorite and should be a 80% favorite or higher. But like i said, we come out firing like today on them, and there is nothing they can do. I expect to see a fired up Marshall team tomrrow.

One thing that does concern me is that title games are usually loosely officiated, ans that will bode well for a team like middle.

I am excited for the game and its excitinf to have a chance to get to the big tourney for the first time in 3 decades

(03-10-2017 05:59 PM)theboro Wrote:  This is the dumbest thing you have ever posted. Even for you, and that's a high bar.
You made 12 3s in two games COMBINED against us. Your gimmick **** doesn't work against good teams...

Your comment isn't much better. Cincinnati is one of the top teams in the country currently ranked at #15. Did you happen to watch the Marshall vs Cincinnati game? Marshall lit the Bearcats up and Cincinnati has the #4 scoring defense in the country. Cincy was very lucky to win that game.

To say Marshall cant shoot lights out against good teams is nonsense. Will Marshall be able to put up those type numbers 2 games in a row while playing their 4th game in 4 days? That's a very tall task and I personally think it's doubtful but Marshall certainly has the ability to make those shots even against some of the top defenses in the country.

It's funny to me that everyone is acting like La Tech is a nobody. Sure it will be very hard to repeat. But we beat a very good 23 win team today.

Also by many statistics we have beaten the two best defenses in C-USA already. I'm not saying we will win but to act as if we stand no chance is absurd.

If Marshall score more points they win. If they score less then MTSU then they win.

(03-10-2017 09:41 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 07:51 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 06:37 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 05:18 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 05:02 PM)MTowho Wrote:  We are locked in. I don't see Marshall beating us. Birmingham is always kind to MT - it'll be the third city we've beaten this Marshall team in this year.

If marshall plays like we did today. You are going to lose. Its that simple. We play like we did against ODU, then wd get blown out.

The outcome is solely based on what Marshall team shows up. Your absolute best, can not beat Marshalls best. The ceiling is higher for us, but our average is much lower than yours.

Middle has a 80% chance to win in my book. But Marshall has a chsnce if we come out like this again.

Of all the dumb things you say this might be the dumbest. If we play our best game there are only a handful of teams in the nation who can beat MT. That's what happened with Michigan St last year and this team is an order of magnitude better than last years. If they play their best game it will automatically mean that you guys don't because the Raiders will harass Marshall defensively, force bad shots and out rebound them.

I'm not saying MT wins. It may take their best game to win but if Marshall does get MTs A game the Herd has little chance.

You don't understand what he's saying. Any team that can shoot threes well is deadly in college basketball, it is the great equalizer in NCAA hoops. MTSU is definitely more talented but that display of 3 point shooting Marshall put on negates any talent advantage. BTW Rebounds dont matter when a team is shooting that well

On the flip side no team can consistently shoot that well and that is where talent has the edge

No, you are missing my point. We play defense. No offense to Tech, but defense! Quite good at the defense thing too, which is what we've done this year against Marshall in the other two games. Play good defense against outside shooters and they miss shots. So, yeah rebounds matter.

Up til this afternoon Tech's scoring margin or could have been scoring defense was better than Middle, looked at the stats earlier this week

GAMEDAY!! Can't wait to see the sea of blue in Birmingham!

Very excited about getting down to the Ham tonight to watch us make a repeat of last year. I hope we stay on the gas pedal...we are gonna need to. Marshall will be dangerous if we let them hang around. Their three point accuracy was deadly.

My call. Middle by 12. Cut the nets and continue this:

(03-11-2017 07:58 AM)Ole Blue Wrote:  GAMEDAY!! Can't wait to see the sea of blue in Birmingham!

(03-11-2017 01:04 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 09:41 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 07:51 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 06:37 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 05:18 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  If marshall plays like we did today. You are going to lose. Its that simple. We play like we did against ODU, then wd get blown out.

The outcome is solely based on what Marshall team shows up. Your absolute best, can not beat Marshalls best. The ceiling is higher for us, but our average is much lower than yours.

Middle has a 80% chance to win in my book. But Marshall has a chsnce if we come out like this again.

Of all the dumb things you say this might be the dumbest. If we play our best game there are only a handful of teams in the nation who can beat MT. That's what happened with Michigan St last year and this team is an order of magnitude better than last years. If they play their best game it will automatically mean that you guys don't because the Raiders will harass Marshall defensively, force bad shots and out rebound them.

I'm not saying MT wins. It may take their best game to win but if Marshall does get MTs A game the Herd has little chance.

You don't understand what he's saying. Any team that can shoot threes well is deadly in college basketball, it is the great equalizer in NCAA hoops. MTSU is definitely more talented but that display of 3 point shooting Marshall put on negates any talent advantage. BTW Rebounds dont matter when a team is shooting that well

On the flip side no team can consistently shoot that well and that is where talent has the edge

No, you are missing my point. We play defense. No offense to Tech, but defense! Quite good at the defense thing too, which is what we've done this year against Marshall in the other two games. Play good defense against outside shooters and they miss shots. So, yeah rebounds matter.

Up til this afternoon Tech's scoring margin or could have been scoring defense was better than Middle, looked at the stats earlier this week

No they weren't. MT is second in the league in scoring defense overall just behind ODU and is first in the league in scoring defense in league games only and it has been this way all season. But we don't okay the game on paper.

Should be a great game. Really impressed with Marshalls play in the tournament.