Wake had our playbook

(03-01-2017 11:12 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  Merry Christmas to Wake. Louisville dominates the first 17 minutes of the game until a switch was flipped. The Cards played like dog **** the final 23 minutes and Wake took advantage to finally get the quality win their resume needed. Might have put the Deacs in the tournament.

Mitchell didn't score after scoring 7 points in the first 4 minutes. 1 made three pointer in the second half while Wake hit about 50% of theirs. Wake is a good team with a lot of close losses, they finally learned how to finish last night.

Funny how the Cards FT shooting has been up & down all year. 10% one game & 82% the next. Baffling. Maybe we should bench Snider & Hicks again (jk), our offense seemed more potent without them.

We're down to 7 league games remaining. The current top 8 teams have clinched a single bye, with the final bye going to Syracuse/Georgia Tech. The race for the three remaining double byes is very tight as well.

#1 UNC 13-4 (Duke) [Clinched 1 seed]
#2 Notre Dame 12-5 (@ UofL)
#3 FSU 11-6 (Miami)
#4 UofL 11-6 (ND)
#5 Duke 11-6 (@ UNC)
#6 Virginia Tech 10-7 (WF)
#7 Miami 10-7 (@ FSU)
#8 Virginia 10-7 (Pitt)
#9 Syracuse 9-8 (GT)
#10 Georgia Tech 8-9 (@ Cuse)

March 2nd ESPN Bracketology
1 seed: UNC
2 seed: UofL
3 seed: Duke
4 seed: FSU, UVA
5 seed: Notre Dame
8 seed: Miami, Virginia Tech
10 seed: Syracuse
11 seed: Wake Forest (Last team in)

First 8 out: Georgia Tech (2nd out)

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketb...acketology

ND is leading Duke, Louisville, FSU and UVA in the conference standings(and equal in overall record) and is second in the ACC, but is currently projected as a fifth seed.............

(03-02-2017 05:25 PM)TerryD Wrote:  ND is leading Duke, Louisville, FSU and UVA in the conference standings(and equal in overall record) and is second in the ACC, but is currently projected as a fifth seed.............

The season isn't over yet, and the teams you mentioned may have movement, especially if ND beats UofL on Saturday. The committee will of course be looking at full resumes, and non-conference play is more than 40% of the schedule.

For comparison out of conference:

Louisville: 12-1, RPI #2, #7 SOS, loss to Baylor, wins over Kentucky, Purdue, Wichita St, Indiana. 2 wins vs sub-200 RPI teams.

Duke: 12-1, RPI #12, #77 SOS, loss to Kansas, wins over Florida, Michigan St, Rhode Island, Penn St. 4 wins vs sub-200 RPI teams.

Florida St 12-1, RPI #24, #106 SOS, loss to Temple, wins over Florida, Minnesota, Illinois, Winthrop. 5 wins vs sub-200 RPI teams.

Notre Dame: 11-2, RPI #56, #182 SOS, losses to Villanova & Purdue, wins over Northwestern & Iowa. 7 wins vs sub-200 RPI teams.

This was the smartest non-conference scheduling UofL has had recently. They did play 4 ranked opponents, but Pitino also said even with home buy games, they tried to schedule teams that finished near the top of 1 bid leagues last year and had at least 3 starters returning. It worked as 10 of the 13 opponents finished at least .500 in their conference. Nearly half the schedule for UofL was home games vs teams ranked #101-200. For top teams, your odds of a win at home are only slightly lower for those opponents compared to teams rated #200-351, but the SOS hit is much less. I hope they continue that approach.

Just look at the difference that can make, even when scheduling HBCU's. UofL played #133 Texas Southern, who leads the SWAC. No big hit to the SOS. Notre Dame alternatively played NC A&T, who is 1-28 out of the MEAC. They are #350 of 351 D1 schools. It really makes a SOS difference.

That was absolute evisceration!

(03-02-2017 05:25 PM)TerryD Wrote:  ND is leading Duke, Louisville, FSU and UVA in the conference standings(and equal in overall record) and is second in the ACC, but is currently projected as a fifth seed.............

What about today?

March 5th ESPN Bracketology
1 seed: UNC
2 seed: UofL
3 seed: FSU
4 seed: Duke, UVA
5 seed: Notre Dame
7 seed: Miami
9 seed: Virginia Tech
10 seed: Syracuse
11 seed: Wake Forest (2nd to last team in, play-in game)

First 8 out: Georgia Tech (5th out)

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketb...acketology

(03-05-2017 03:37 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  March 5th ESPN Bracketology
1 seed: UNC
2 seed: UofL
3 seed: FSU
4 seed: Duke, UVA
5 seed: Notre Dame
7 seed: Miami
9 seed: Virginia Tech
10 seed: Syracuse
11 seed: Wake Forest (2nd to last team in, play-in game)

First 8 out: Georgia Tech (5th out)

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketb...acketology

Wake is 30th in RPI. Show me the last time a team with that high of an RPI didn't get in.
-- @charlie_putnam

why is wake forest on the bubble ...

HANG TEN

GT's inability to win on the road anywhere in the ACC cost them going to the dance. But then, what did you expect with the least talented roster I can remember GT basketball having in my lifetime?

"His unorthodox style has guided Notre Dame to Elite 8 appearances in each of the last two years, a feat no other school in the country managed to match.

The Irish won the 2015 ACC Tournament, beating bluebloods Duke and North Carolina in the final two rounds.

Before Notre Dame’s move to the ACC in 2013, Brey won Big East Coach of the Year three times, and took every major national Coach of the Year award in 2012.

Yet the third-longest-tenured coach in major college basketball remains the most underrated in his sport — and maybe even all of American sports."


http://www.mensjournal.com/sports/articl...ll-w470597

(03-07-2017 08:54 AM)TerryD Wrote:  "His unorthodox style has guided Notre Dame to Elite 8 appearances in each of the last two years, a feat no other school in the country managed to match.

The Irish won the 2015 ACC Tournament, beating bluebloods Duke and North Carolina in the final two rounds.

Before Notre Dame’s move to the ACC in 2013, Brey won Big East Coach of the Year three times, and took every major national Coach of the Year award in 2012.

Yet the third-longest-tenured coach in major college basketball remains the most underrated in his sport — and maybe even all of American sports."


http://www.mensjournal.com/sports/articl...ll-w470597

Brey is definitely underrated & will probably stay that way until he hangs a NC banner &/or starts making F4's. If you don't have a NC then its tough to get associated among the elite coaches. He needs to strengthen his postseason resume.

(03-07-2017 08:54 AM)TerryD Wrote:  "His unorthodox style has guided Notre Dame to Elite 8 appearances in each of the last two years, a feat no other school in the country managed to match.

The Irish won the 2015 ACC Tournament, beating bluebloods Duke and North Carolina in the final two rounds.

Before Notre Dame’s move to the ACC in 2013, Brey won Big East Coach of the Year three times, and took every major national Coach of the Year award in 2012.

Yet the third-longest-tenured coach in major college basketball remains the most underrated in his sport — and maybe even all of American sports."


http://www.mensjournal.com/sports/articl...ll-w470597

Behind only Boeheim and Krzyzewski in tenure. Any chance he would leave Notre Dame for Duke when K steps down?

(03-07-2017 10:09 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(03-07-2017 08:54 AM)TerryD Wrote:  "His unorthodox style has guided Notre Dame to Elite 8 appearances in each of the last two years, a feat no other school in the country managed to match.

The Irish won the 2015 ACC Tournament, beating bluebloods Duke and North Carolina in the final two rounds.

Before Notre Dame’s move to the ACC in 2013, Brey won Big East Coach of the Year three times, and took every major national Coach of the Year award in 2012.

Yet the third-longest-tenured coach in major college basketball remains the most underrated in his sport — and maybe even all of American sports."


http://www.mensjournal.com/sports/articl...ll-w470597

Behind only Boeheim and Krzyzewski in tenure. Any chance he would leave Notre Dame for Duke when K steps down?

No idea. I've heard his name mentioned, but I bet they go with someone more closely associated with the program. I always thought Brey was a solid coach, but he's been real impressive the last few years. The Irish always seem to lose a handful of their core guys from the prior season and are "poised to take a step back", but someone already in the program steps up that was a mere role player from the year before. I'm curious who will replace Beachem/Vasturia next year to join Colsen/Farrell as their stars.

The ACC certainly has tenure. If Brey is the 3rd longest tenure at major schools, Pitino must be tied for 4th since he started at Louisville the year after Brey at Notre Dame.

(03-07-2017 10:09 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(03-07-2017 08:54 AM)TerryD Wrote:  "His unorthodox style has guided Notre Dame to Elite 8 appearances in each of the last two years, a feat no other school in the country managed to match.

The Irish won the 2015 ACC Tournament, beating bluebloods Duke and North Carolina in the final two rounds.

Before Notre Dame’s move to the ACC in 2013, Brey won Big East Coach of the Year three times, and took every major national Coach of the Year award in 2012.

Yet the third-longest-tenured coach in major college basketball remains the most underrated in his sport — and maybe even all of American sports."


http://www.mensjournal.com/sports/articl...ll-w470597

Behind only Boeheim and Krzyzewski in tenure. Any chance he would leave Notre Dame for Duke when K steps down?

Who knows what Brey will do when "Mama" calls? Unlike some fans, I am a realist, know coaches are mercenaries by necessity and don't buy into "He loves it here, he will never leave" like some fans.

But, he is a perfect fit for ND and has done well there. But, he gets very little support from the ND administration.

He plays in an old arena that seats less than 9k, does not have a separate basketball practice facility and has a basketball budget much lower than many other schools.

So, like Paul Maineri leaving ND for LSU's baseball program, I would not be shocked if Brey left to coach Duke.

I would hate to see that but would understand.

(03-07-2017 12:48 PM)TerryD Wrote:  So, like Paul Maineri leaving ND for LSU's baseball program, I would not be shocked if Brey left to coach Duke.

"I have known Paul for over 30 years," Skip Bertman said, "dating back to my days in Miami when I knew his father, the legendary Demie Mainieri at Miami-Dade Community College. Paul’s strong baseball pedigree is one of his most admirable and valuable traits.
-- lsubaseballcamps.com

CRADLE OF COACHES

(03-07-2017 12:48 PM)TerryD Wrote:  Who knows what Brey will do when "Mama" calls? Unlike some fans, I am a realist, know coaches are mercenaries by necessity and don't buy into "He loves it here, he will never leave" like some fans.

But, he is a perfect fit for ND and has done well there. But, he gets very little support from the ND administration.

He plays in an old arena that seats less than 9k, does not have a separate basketball practice facility and has a basketball budget much lower than many other schools.

So, like Paul Maineri leaving ND for LSU's baseball program, I would not be shocked if Brey left to coach Duke.

I would hate to see that but would understand.

From my understanding, Purcell Pavilion was completely renovated in 2009. It may not have a high capacity, but the bowl was redone very well from an aesthetic viewpoint. One of the nicer venues in the ACC, in my opinion. I hope the upcoming renovation of Cassell Coliseum turns out half as nice as this:

(03-07-2017 01:18 PM)H.U.S.T.L.E. Wrote:  

(03-07-2017 12:48 PM)TerryD Wrote:  Who knows what Brey will do when "Mama" calls? Unlike some fans, I am a realist, know coaches are mercenaries by necessity and don't buy into "He loves it here, he will never leave" like some fans.

But, he is a perfect fit for ND and has done well there. But, he gets very little support from the ND administration.

He plays in an old arena that seats less than 9k, does not have a separate basketball practice facility and has a basketball budget much lower than many other schools.

So, like Paul Maineri leaving ND for LSU's baseball program, I would not be shocked if Brey left to coach Duke.

I would hate to see that but would understand.

From my understanding, Purcell Pavilion was completely renovated in 2009. It may not have a high capacity, but the bowl was redone very well from an aesthetic viewpoint. One of the nicer venues in the ACC, in my opinion. I hope the upcoming renovation of Cassell Coliseum turns out half as nice as this:

It is still in an old building built in 1968. Yes, the renovations were nice but a new arena and a separate practice facility would be better.

It is not like ND is hurting for money, but spend less on basketball (a poor step sister to football) than many places.

(03-05-2017 04:33 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  GT's inability to win on the road anywhere in the ACC cost them going to the dance. But then, what did you expect with the least talented roster I can remember GT basketball having in my lifetime?

Hmmm could we borrow Lammers?