(01-25-2017 11:04 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 10:45 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 10:37 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  Obama felt that the lives in south Chicago were expendable. He could have cared less. They didn't affect his rounds on the golf course, so he just didn't care. The irony of Chicago being the city he came from is not lost on many. Now Trump in the first week in office has showed more concern for those poor people having to live in those gang infested killing fields than Obama did in 8 years. Libs heads are going explode more and more as this Presidency continues to actually do things and not just run their mouths.

I could really care less what Pres. Obama did or didn't do for Chicago. That ship has sailed. Trump showing concern doesn't mean squat until he does something other than run his mouth on this issue. Every president in my life time says that they are going to help the black community and have failed. You so bent up on what Obama didn't do but yet get excited over what Trump says he going to do. I'll get excited when he does it and there is less murder in Chicago.

So you don't care that a man in office for 8 years did nothing and let the slaughter continue. All I need to know.

Don't try and take my words out of context. You know full well what I meant. That was for your benefit since you constantly comment on what he didn't do. Why not comment on what else I said in my post? Like I said Trumps statement doesn't mean squat until he does something.

(01-25-2017 11:12 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 11:04 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 10:45 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 10:37 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  Obama felt that the lives in south Chicago were expendable. He could have cared less. They didn't affect his rounds on the golf course, so he just didn't care. The irony of Chicago being the city he came from is not lost on many. Now Trump in the first week in office has showed more concern for those poor people having to live in those gang infested killing fields than Obama did in 8 years. Libs heads are going explode more and more as this Presidency continues to actually do things and not just run their mouths.

I could really care less what Pres. Obama did or didn't do for Chicago. That ship has sailed. Trump showing concern doesn't mean squat until he does something other than run his mouth on this issue. Every president in my life time says that they are going to help the black community and have failed. You so bent up on what Obama didn't do but yet get excited over what Trump says he going to do. I'll get excited when he does it and there is less murder in Chicago.

So you don't care that a man in office for 8 years did nothing and let the slaughter continue. All I need to know.

Don't try and take my words out of context. You know full well what I meant. That was for your benefit since you constantly comment on what he didn't do. Why not comment on what else I said in my post? Like I said Trumps statement doesn't mean squat until he does something.

They are your words. Out of context?? Sorry, you wrote them and they say what they say.

(01-25-2017 11:15 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 11:12 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 11:04 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 10:45 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 10:37 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  Obama felt that the lives in south Chicago were expendable. He could have cared less. They didn't affect his rounds on the golf course, so he just didn't care. The irony of Chicago being the city he came from is not lost on many. Now Trump in the first week in office has showed more concern for those poor people having to live in those gang infested killing fields than Obama did in 8 years. Libs heads are going explode more and more as this Presidency continues to actually do things and not just run their mouths.

I could really care less what Pres. Obama did or didn't do for Chicago. That ship has sailed. Trump showing concern doesn't mean squat until he does something other than run his mouth on this issue. Every president in my life time says that they are going to help the black community and have failed. You so bent up on what Obama didn't do but yet get excited over what Trump says he going to do. I'll get excited when he does it and there is less murder in Chicago.

So you don't care that a man in office for 8 years did nothing and let the slaughter continue. All I need to know.

Don't try and take my words out of context. You know full well what I meant. That was for your benefit since you constantly comment on what he didn't do. Why not comment on what else I said in my post? Like I said Trumps statement doesn't mean squat until he does something.

They are your words. Out of context?? Sorry, you wrote them and they say what they say.

Yep and open for misinterpretation. Like you just proved.

(01-25-2017 09:04 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 09:00 AM)2-Hood-Rich Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 08:56 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 08:47 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  Trump = The new Elliott Ness

But really either go in and get control of the situation for the the poor innocent people that have to survive with this daily violence OR start drop shipping cases of Colt 45 Malt Liquor, and cheap High Point 9mm pistols and ammo on pallets Monday, Wed & Fri. Expedite this and get it over with and start over.

Seems like somebody is already doing this. How do you explain a teenager that doesn't have a registered gun permit having a gun? and not just 9mm. I'm talking assault rifles.

got it from a gang member illegally. btw, what's an assault rifle?

And how did that gang member get it? My knowledge of guns is limited maybe I should of said assault weapons?

I appreciate your effort to get away from prejudicial language, so here is how I would suggest you talk about guns if you're ignorant about guns (and it's ok to be ignorant)

Im not a big gun guy but I've found type and action are the best ways to break down guns...

Major types you can use are : Hand Gun / Rifle / Shot Gun

* The handgun barrel is much shorter than a rifle and have grooves cut into the bore. It shoots a bullet
* The rifle barrel is long and thick with spiraling grooves cut into the bore. It shoots a bullet
* The shotgun barrel is long and is very smooth on the inside to allow the shot to glide down the barrel without friction. It shoots many small pellets called "shot"

The kinds of action you usually see are : Single Shot / Semi-automatic / Auto

* Single is where you have to shoot, **** the weapon, and shoot again
* Semi-auto is where you don't have to **** the gun. One trigger pull shoots the gun and chambers the next round
* automatic is where the gun will fire a bursts or stream of bullets while the trigger is depressed.

Let's see if he addresses the root causes of the problems vs just sending in the Feds to bust skulls. I hope he does, because both sides have ignored it for decades.

(01-25-2017 11:18 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 11:15 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 11:12 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 11:04 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 10:45 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  I could really care less what Pres. Obama did or didn't do for Chicago. That ship has sailed. Trump showing concern doesn't mean squat until he does something other than run his mouth on this issue. Every president in my life time says that they are going to help the black community and have failed. You so bent up on what Obama didn't do but yet get excited over what Trump says he going to do. I'll get excited when he does it and there is less murder in Chicago.

So you don't care that a man in office for 8 years did nothing and let the slaughter continue. All I need to know.

Don't try and take my words out of context. You know full well what I meant. That was for your benefit since you constantly comment on what he didn't do. Why not comment on what else I said in my post? Like I said Trumps statement doesn't mean squat until he does something.

They are your words. Out of context?? Sorry, you wrote them and they say what they say.

Yep and open for misinterpretation. Like you just proved.

"I could really care less what Pres. Obama did or didn't do for Chicago"

Please explain any ambiguity in that statement. Sorry, it says what it says.

(01-25-2017 11:21 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 09:04 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 09:00 AM)2-Hood-Rich Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 08:56 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 08:47 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  Trump = The new Elliott Ness

But really either go in and get control of the situation for the the poor innocent people that have to survive with this daily violence OR start drop shipping cases of Colt 45 Malt Liquor, and cheap High Point 9mm pistols and ammo on pallets Monday, Wed & Fri. Expedite this and get it over with and start over.

Seems like somebody is already doing this. How do you explain a teenager that doesn't have a registered gun permit having a gun? and not just 9mm. I'm talking assault rifles.

got it from a gang member illegally. btw, what's an assault rifle?

And how did that gang member get it? My knowledge of guns is limited maybe I should of said assault weapons?

I appreciate your effort to get away from prejudicial language, so here is how I would suggest you talk about guns if you're ignorant about guns (and it's ok to be ignorant)

Im not a big gun guy but I've found type and action are the best ways to break down guns...

Major types you can use are : Hand Gun / Rifle / Shot Gun

* The handgun barrel is much shorter than a rifle and have grooves cut into the bore. It shoots a bullet
* The rifle barrel is long and thick with spiraling grooves cut into the bore. It shoots a bullet
* The shotgun barrel is long and is very smooth on the inside to allow the shot to glide down the barrel without friction. It shoots many small pellets called "shot"

The kinds of action you usually see are : Single Shot / Semi-automatic / Auto

* Single is where you have to shoot, **** the weapon, and shoot again
* Semi-auto is where you don't have to **** the gun. One trigger pull shoots the gun and chambers the next round
* automatic is where the gun will fire a bursts or stream of bullets while the trigger is depressed.

Thanks for the info!

(01-25-2017 11:21 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 11:18 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 11:15 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 11:12 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 11:04 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  So you don't care that a man in office for 8 years did nothing and let the slaughter continue. All I need to know.

Don't try and take my words out of context. You know full well what I meant. That was for your benefit since you constantly comment on what he didn't do. Why not comment on what else I said in my post? Like I said Trumps statement doesn't mean squat until he does something.

They are your words. Out of context?? Sorry, you wrote them and they say what they say.

Yep and open for misinterpretation. Like you just proved.

"I could really care less what Pres. Obama did or didn't do for Chicago"

Please explain any ambiguity in that statement. Sorry, it says what it says.

Quite simple actually. Poster like you says repeatedly what Obama didn't do and praise Trump for a statement that he hasn't acted on yet. I say my statement because constantly hearing it from you is why I could care less. I am more focused on if Trump does what he says. Plain and simple.

How will the feds fix Chicago? Are they going to impose Martial law?

(01-25-2017 11:09 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  It's not Trumps job! It belongs to the Mayor of Chicago and the Governor of Illinois.

This.

Even saying this sets a horrible precedent.

(01-25-2017 11:30 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 11:21 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 11:18 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 11:15 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 11:12 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  Don't try and take my words out of context. You know full well what I meant. That was for your benefit since you constantly comment on what he didn't do. Why not comment on what else I said in my post? Like I said Trumps statement doesn't mean squat until he does something.

They are your words. Out of context?? Sorry, you wrote them and they say what they say.

Yep and open for misinterpretation. Like you just proved.

"I could really care less what Pres. Obama did or didn't do for Chicago"

Please explain any ambiguity in that statement. Sorry, it says what it says.

Quite simple actually. Poster like you says repeatedly what Obama didn't do and praise Trump for a statement that he hasn't acted on yet. I say my statement because constantly hearing it from you is why I could care less. I am more focused on if Trump does what he says. Plain and simple.

Sorry, nice spin. You said you could care less what Obama did or didn't do. All your spin can't change what you said. They are your words, not mine.

(01-25-2017 08:05 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 07:36 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  I commend him on stating that he will send the feds. But at this point that's all it is is a statement. Send the Feds in now. Pres. Obama and the mayor had their chance. Don't tell me if they don't fix it you gonna send the Fed's. Just do it. Right now is just talk. The killing and shootings have been going on for to long. Why are you giving warnings?

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Not sure how the feds are going to do anything unless its a gang problem.

Unlike the Obama DOJ I have a feeling that this DOJ is actually going to prosecute federal crimes. The vast majority of these shootings is a violation of federal gun laws, and many of them could be tried as federal RICO violations due to the gang ties.

(01-25-2017 11:42 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 08:05 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 07:36 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  I commend him on stating that he will send the feds. But at this point that's all it is is a statement. Send the Feds in now. Pres. Obama and the mayor had their chance. Don't tell me if they don't fix it you gonna send the Fed's. Just do it. Right now is just talk. The killing and shootings have been going on for to long. Why are you giving warnings?

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Not sure how the feds are going to do anything unless its a gang problem.

Unlike the Obama DOJ I have a feeling that this DOJ is actually going to prosecute federal crimes. The vast majority of these shootings is a violation of federal gun laws, and many of them could be tried as federal RICO violations due to the gang ties.

That is fine by me as long as they go all the way to the source of how these guns are being obtained illegally.

(01-25-2017 11:40 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 11:30 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 11:21 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 11:18 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 11:15 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  They are your words. Out of context?? Sorry, you wrote them and they say what they say.

Yep and open for misinterpretation. Like you just proved.

"I could really care less what Pres. Obama did or didn't do for Chicago"

Please explain any ambiguity in that statement. Sorry, it says what it says.

Quite simple actually. Poster like you says repeatedly what Obama didn't do and praise Trump for a statement that he hasn't acted on yet. I say my statement because constantly hearing it from you is why I could care less. I am more focused on if Trump does what he says. Plain and simple.

Sorry, nice spin. You said you could care less what Obama did or didn't do. All your spin can't change what you said. They are your words, not mine.

When you have nothing else to say, go the spin job route. I figured you were gonna go there. Surprised it took this long.

(01-25-2017 11:43 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 11:42 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 08:05 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 07:36 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  I commend him on stating that he will send the feds. But at this point that's all it is is a statement. Send the Feds in now. Pres. Obama and the mayor had their chance. Don't tell me if they don't fix it you gonna send the Fed's. Just do it. Right now is just talk. The killing and shootings have been going on for to long. Why are you giving warnings?

Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk

Not sure how the feds are going to do anything unless its a gang problem.

Unlike the Obama DOJ I have a feeling that this DOJ is actually going to prosecute federal crimes. The vast majority of these shootings is a violation of federal gun laws, and many of them could be tried as federal RICO violations due to the gang ties.

That is fine by me as long as they go all the way to the source of how these guns are being obtained illegally.

It's already known how these guns are obtained. The vast majority of them are obtained through straw purchases.

We have discussed this a myriad of times on here, primarily when you trot out the same tired old line that you just used. Maybe instead of wasting our time reading and replying to the same thing over and over and over you should use a little of your time by printing out a little strip of paper saying "The majority of guns in Chicago are obtained through illegal straw purchases" and affixing it to the top of your monitor for the next time you feel the nerve to ask a question that has been asked many times already.

(01-25-2017 11:57 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 11:43 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 11:42 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 08:05 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 07:36 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  I commend him on stating that he will send the feds. But at this point that's all it is is a statement. Send the Feds in now. Pres. Obama and the mayor had their chance. Don't tell me if they don't fix it you gonna send the Fed's. Just do it. Right now is just talk. The killing and shootings have been going on for to long. Why are you giving warnings?

Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk

Not sure how the feds are going to do anything unless its a gang problem.

Unlike the Obama DOJ I have a feeling that this DOJ is actually going to prosecute federal crimes. The vast majority of these shootings is a violation of federal gun laws, and many of them could be tried as federal RICO violations due to the gang ties.

That is fine by me as long as they go all the way to the source of how these guns are being obtained illegally.

It's already known how these guns are obtained. The vast majority of them are obtained through straw purchases.

I am not well versed in this so if you don't mind me asking what is a straw purchase and what in your opinion would be the best way to stop those?

(01-25-2017 12:04 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 11:57 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 11:43 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 11:42 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 08:05 AM)bullet Wrote:  Not sure how the feds are going to do anything unless its a gang problem.

Unlike the Obama DOJ I have a feeling that this DOJ is actually going to prosecute federal crimes. The vast majority of these shootings is a violation of federal gun laws, and many of them could be tried as federal RICO violations due to the gang ties.

That is fine by me as long as they go all the way to the source of how these guns are being obtained illegally.

It's already known how these guns are obtained. The vast majority of them are obtained through straw purchases.

I am not well versed in this so if you don't mind me asking what is a straw purchase and what in your opinion would be the best way to stop those?

Basically its when a person who is prohibited from buying firearms uses another person to buy a gun on their behalf. How to stop this is a the question of the day.

http://smartgunlaws.org/straw-purchases-policy-summary/

(01-25-2017 11:09 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(01-25-2017 02:00 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  

About time somebody gave a damn about those poor souls in south Chicago.

It's not Trumps job! It belongs to the Mayor of Chicago and the Governor of Illinois.

Remember the DOJ coming flown to Columbia SC because a petulant black female teenager wouldn't get out of her desk until a police officer assisted the Pest out. ???

Amazing people do not know what a form 4473 is. This form alone outlines straw purchases of a firearm of any type.

(01-25-2017 12:18 PM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  Amazing people do not know what a form 4473 is. This form alone outlines straw purchases of a firearm of any type.

Not everbody, including myself, own or purchased a gun before. Thus the reason I don't know what form 4473 is. Thats my excuse. I had to google to find out what straw purchase meant.