Yeah I don't understand the CUSA fans who try to talk down to Sun Belt fans. The same ones get all all butt hurt when AAC fans come on our board and talk down to them.

(01-05-2017 08:52 AM)BlazintheATL Wrote:  Yeah I don't understand the CUSA fans who try to talk down to Sun Belt fans. The same ones get all all butt hurt when AAC fans come on our board and talk down to them.

because CUSA used to be something to brag about (no offense to you) when they had teams that basically now make up part of the AAC, and now that the conference decided to go with "media markets", a lot of those fans are still caught up in the past thinking they have teams like Louisville, Cincinnati, Memphis, etc.

Instead now they have teams like FIU, FAU, ODU, and UNC-Charlotte. They are stuck in the past.

(01-05-2017 08:57 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(01-05-2017 08:52 AM)BlazintheATL Wrote:  Yeah I don't understand the CUSA fans who try to talk down to Sun Belt fans. The same ones get all all butt hurt when AAC fans come on our board and talk down to them.

because CUSA used to be something to brag about (no offense to you) when they had teams that basically now make up part of the AAC, and now that the conference decided to go with "media markets", a lot of those fans are still caught up in the past thinking they have teams like Louisville, Cincinnati, Memphis, etc.

Instead now they have teams like FIU, FAU, ODU, and UNC-Charlotte. They are stuck in the past.

Honestly, it's mainly the former Belt members that bad mouth it. It's not the UAB or USM fans. We were all around when CUSA really was a great league. Not saying it's bad now but it's certainly nothing to gloat about.

(01-05-2017 07:54 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  The belch should target Tulane instead. They're no longer worthy of either the AAC or C-USA.

LOL, CUSA has 5 of the bottom 10 teams according to the mothership's power index, and only 5 teams in CUSA are currently ranked ahead of a bad Tulane team. I'd say Tulane is plenty worthy of CUSA...


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(01-05-2017 09:03 AM)BlazintheATL Wrote:  

(01-05-2017 08:57 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(01-05-2017 08:52 AM)BlazintheATL Wrote:  Yeah I don't understand the CUSA fans who try to talk down to Sun Belt fans. The same ones get all all butt hurt when AAC fans come on our board and talk down to them.

because CUSA used to be something to brag about (no offense to you) when they had teams that basically now make up part of the AAC, and now that the conference decided to go with "media markets", a lot of those fans are still caught up in the past thinking they have teams like Louisville, Cincinnati, Memphis, etc.

Instead now they have teams like FIU, FAU, ODU, and UNC-Charlotte. They are stuck in the past.

Honestly, it's mainly the former Belt members that bad mouth it. It's not the UAB or USM fans. We were all around when CUSA really was a great league. Not saying it's bad now but it's certainly nothing to gloat about.

MTSU and WKU fans are just in denial. They don't want to admit it but they thought they were taking a step up when they made the move but they actually only took a step to the left and lost a lot of money doing it.

I wouldn't want Troy to move from the Sun Belt to CUSA.

The basketball product has been better than CUSA, football was better than CUSA this season, and I think CUSA's commissioner is absolutely terrible at her job. If realignment occurred again, I wouldn't trust her. to make wise decisions... I'm afraid she would bring in sucky programs from large markets, instead of bringing in actual solid programs... that's where Benson excelled. Bringing in App State, Georgia Southern, and Coastal Carolina were smart moves since those programs have proved they can win, despite not being in huge markets.

Plus, I see way more Sun Belt football/basketball/baseball games on ESPN, ESPN2, and ESPN3 than I do CUSA, which is significant.

(01-05-2017 10:17 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  I wouldn't want Troy to move from the Sun Belt to CUSA.

The basketball product has been better than CUSA, football was better than CUSA this season, and I think CUSA's commissioner is absolutely terrible at her job. If realignment occurred again, I wouldn't trust her. to make wise decisions... I'm afraid she would bring in sucky programs from large markets, instead of bringing in actual solid programs... that's where Benson excelled. Bringing in App State, Georgia Southern, and Coastal Carolina were smart moves since those programs have proved they can win, despite not being in huge markets.

Plus, I see way more Sun Belt football/basketball/baseball games on ESPN, ESPN2, and ESPN3 than I do CUSA, which is significant.

cusa does have that tv deal with espn the ocho, or whatever bum streaming app or something. I mean, hey, at least before that, people would have to have satellite, and pay an extra 30 bucks a month for some obscure sports package to get whatever the hell channel they were on then. lol

My opinion is I'd like UAB and USM in this conference. If they want in, we welcome them. The rest of CUSA can rot in the crap hole they have created for themselves. No reason for the SBC to merge at this point, we are in a better situation then they are. I don't want in a conference with F_U again.

(01-05-2017 11:08 AM)Usajags Wrote:  My opinion is I'd like UAB and USM in this conference. If they want in, we welcome them. The rest of CUSA can rot in the crap hole they have created for themselves. No reason for the SBC to merge at this point, we are in a better situation then they are. I don't want in a conference with F_U again.

I agree with this 100%. Only two schools I will welcome with open arms. UAB and USA could hopefully both have on campus stadiums, that would be perfect too.

I'd be all for UTSA and USM. Not sure how but we almost sold out against USM last year. Maybe it was just from excitement because we expected to improve on our 7-5 2014 season but we sure showed up for them. UTSA should be a sell out everytime we host them. We'll see.

(01-05-2017 10:15 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(01-05-2017 09:03 AM)BlazintheATL Wrote:  

(01-05-2017 08:57 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(01-05-2017 08:52 AM)BlazintheATL Wrote:  Yeah I don't understand the CUSA fans who try to talk down to Sun Belt fans. The same ones get all all butt hurt when AAC fans come on our board and talk down to them.

because CUSA used to be something to brag about (no offense to you) when they had teams that basically now make up part of the AAC, and now that the conference decided to go with "media markets", a lot of those fans are still caught up in the past thinking they have teams like Louisville, Cincinnati, Memphis, etc.

Instead now they have teams like FIU, FAU, ODU, and UNC-Charlotte. They are stuck in the past.

Honestly, it's mainly the former Belt members that bad mouth it. It's not the UAB or USM fans. We were all around when CUSA really was a great league. Not saying it's bad now but it's certainly nothing to gloat about.

MTSU and WKU fans are just in denial. They don't want to admit it but they thought they were taking a step up when they made the move but they actually only took a step to the left and lost a lot of money doing it.

They are able to win over there. Didn't and wasn' going to happen here.

(01-05-2017 11:44 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  I'd be all for UTSA and USM. Not sure how but we almost sold out against USM last year. Maybe it was just from excitement because we expected to improve on our 7-5 2014 season but we sure showed up for them. UTSA should be a sell out everytime we host them. We'll see.

Hopefully you only want UTSA for the rivalry. Their facilities top to bottom are some of the worst in CUSA and the SBC. They are 28-33 since moving to FBS, have no winning records the last three years (13-24, 2 OOC wins). Their men's basketball hasn't been above the 300 RPI in a while and baseball is a scattershoot with way more misses.

Their olympic sports do well, but as far as revenue goes, they would not help in either conference/tourney take (and very well could hurt) and would not be attractive enough to SBC teams to be a draw at the gate save for TXST.

(01-05-2017 11:08 AM)Usajags Wrote:  My opinion is I'd like UAB and USM in this conference. If they want in, we welcome them. The rest of CUSA can rot in the crap hole they have created for themselves. No reason for the SBC to merge at this point, we are in a better situation then they are. I don't want in a conference with F_U again.

Who's above who in the conference pecking order is tough to call given recent events. Without letting my chest get in the way, bring in Marshall, USM, and UAB. Add any two of these teams and there's NO QUESTION.

Any realignment likely has no effect or certainly less if at worst the top one or two teams are removed from the Belt.

Take the top two from CUSA and well there would be no question and the likelihood anyone leaves the Belt for CUSA would be almost zero at that point. Seriously bad situation for CUSA if that happens.

(01-05-2017 04:22 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  

(01-05-2017 11:44 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  I'd be all for UTSA and USM. Not sure how but we almost sold out against USM last year. Maybe it was just from excitement because we expected to improve on our 7-5 2014 season but we sure showed up for them. UTSA should be a sell out everytime we host them. We'll see.

Hopefully you only want UTSA for the rivalry. Their facilities top to bottom are some of the worst in CUSA and the SBC. They are 28-33 since moving to FBS, have no winning records the last three years (13-24, 2 OOC wins). Their men's basketball hasn't been above the 300 RPI in a while and baseball is a scattershoot with way more misses.

Their olympic sports do well, but as far as revenue goes, they would not help in either conference/tourney take (and very well could hurt) and would not be attractive enough to SBC teams to be a draw at the gate save for TXST.

We just want a Texas team that plays football. Preferably not UTEP (cause man... 600 miles is a LONG drive).

Of them all? I'd prefer Rice. Really good baseball, it's in a major metropolitan area that is a true recruiting hotbed, and (while it's no case for a rivalry) they have our old coach.

Having a Houston team in the conference could help getting a Houston bowl tie-in.

(01-05-2017 04:22 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  

(01-05-2017 11:44 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  I'd be all for UTSA and USM. Not sure how but we almost sold out against USM last year. Maybe it was just from excitement because we expected to improve on our 7-5 2014 season but we sure showed up for them. UTSA should be a sell out everytime we host them. We'll see.

Hopefully you only want UTSA for the rivalry. Their facilities top to bottom are some of the worst in CUSA and the SBC. They are 28-33 since moving to FBS, have no winning records the last three years (13-24, 2 OOC wins). Their men's basketball hasn't been above the 300 RPI in a while and baseball is a scattershoot with way more misses.

Their olympic sports do well, but as far as revenue goes, they would not help in either conference/tourney take (and very well could hurt) and would not be attractive enough to SBC teams to be a draw at the gate save for TXST.

Yea I didn't really think that need to be stated, definitely for the rivalry. I couldn't care less about their facilities. I'd never travel there save for football games and I'm sure they'll improve eventually anyways. I don't need to say anything about our basketball arena.... luckily that'll be remedied soon. Unfortunately it will make our poor basketball attendance look even worse. As long as it looks good though!

I know it'd be selfish for us but it'd be nice to not have to rely on OOC games in order to get a sellout. Of course we could help fix that if we could win more than 2 games and be competitive when we're on national tv.

(01-04-2017 10:37 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(01-04-2017 08:56 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  With the Sunbelt and CUSA being equals now I don't see a move from one to another as a way to better one's self. However, it seems we are destined for a reorganization into more sensible geographic arrangements.

Not sure why. We have a conference that is pretty cool, did a good job in bowl season, improving in basketball, getting more respect. What's so necessary for it to be broken up? Both SBC and CUSA's biggest problem has always been stability of membership for both leagues. Why voluntarily do that again?

Reorganizing regionally makes stability far more likely. It also cuts down on travel costs and drastically reduces what is becoming THE major issue going forward, missed class time. You have to eliminate football from the discussion. As the Chancellor at App what is easier to justify? Sending my teams to Texas, Louisiana and Arkansas, or to Tenn, Virginia, Kentucky and West Virginia?

(01-05-2017 04:45 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  

(01-05-2017 11:08 AM)Usajags Wrote:  My opinion is I'd like UAB and USM in this conference. If they want in, we welcome them. The rest of CUSA can rot in the crap hole they have created for themselves. No reason for the SBC to merge at this point, we are in a better situation then they are. I don't want in a conference with F_U again.

Who's above who in the conference pecking order is tough to call given recent events. Without letting my chest get in the way, bring in Marshall, USM, and UAB. Add any two of these teams and there's NO QUESTION.

Any realignment likely has no effect or certainly less if at worst the top one or two teams are removed from the Belt.

Take the top two from CUSA and well there would be no question and the likelihood anyone leaves the Belt for CUSA would be almost zero at that point. Seriously bad situation for CUSA if that happens.

In any scenario like you're suggesting, it would require a complete re-branding of the Sun Belt Conference. It is the name that has a bad reputation. Invite those 3 teams, cut any dead weight that isn't serious about competing, re-name the conference and call it a day. I think you'd see a conference that would instantly garner more media respect. Stupid, but unfortunately true.

(01-06-2017 07:22 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(01-04-2017 10:37 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(01-04-2017 08:56 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  With the Sunbelt and CUSA being equals now I don't see a move from one to another as a way to better one's self. However, it seems we are destined for a reorganization into more sensible geographic arrangements.

Not sure why. We have a conference that is pretty cool, did a good job in bowl season, improving in basketball, getting more respect. What's so necessary for it to be broken up? Both SBC and CUSA's biggest problem has always been stability of membership for both leagues. Why voluntarily do that again?

Reorganizing regionally makes stability far more likely. It also cuts down on travel costs and drastically reduces what is becoming THE major issue going forward, missed class time. You have to eliminate football from the discussion. As the Chancellor at App what is easier to justify? Sending my teams to Texas, Louisiana and Arkansas, or to Tenn, Virginia, Kentucky and West Virginia?

So just for laughs and giggles, let's redo the two conferences to fit regionally. Have UAB bring back football and include NMST to create 24 teams. Then we may look something like this:

New Conference East:
Division North
WKU
ODU
MT
APP
Coastal
Marshall
Charlotte

Division South
FIU
FAU
GS
GSU
Troy
UAB

New Conference West:
Division Texas
NT
UTSA
Rise
UTEP
TxSt
NMSt

Division Deep South
ASU
LaTech
SMU
UL
ULM
USA

Easy....realign in the same general footprint as the ACC/SEC. G5s in the ACC footprint are C-USA and G5s in the SEC footprint are SBC. Make your money through attendance.

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(01-07-2017 01:03 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  Easy....realign in the same general footprint as the ACC/SEC. G5s in the ACC footprint are C-USA and G5s in the SEC footprint are SBC. Make your money through attendance.

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Which really works when you're in the B12 footprint. (A&M don't count)