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RE: Season-opening Stanford Football Game Moved to Sydney, Australia???
(12-06-2016 05:49 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(12-06-2016 05:42 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  Wouldn't be surprised if the Australian sponsors are paying for travel costs... That's what they do for Ireland games. Also, I wonder if we will start our season a week earlier, on the 26th.

Not a fan of this move though. Why give up your sexiest home game?

I agree with you. I'm hearing from the Stanford side that the game would likely be the week of August 21st (but likely NOT Saturday the 26th), so that our guys could get back in time for the first week of classes. Not sure how the true Freshmen missing O Week is going to go over with the Administration.

Classes start the 21st per this calendar

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(12-06-2016 05:54 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  
(12-06-2016 05:49 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(12-06-2016 05:42 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  Wouldn't be surprised if the Australian sponsors are paying for travel costs... That's what they do for Ireland games. Also, I wonder if we will start our season a week earlier, on the 26th.

Not a fan of this move though. Why give up your sexiest home game?

I agree with you. I'm hearing from the Stanford side that the game would likely be the week of August 21st (but likely NOT Saturday the 26th), so that our guys could get back in time for the first week of classes. Not sure how the true Freshmen missing O Week is going to go over with the Administration.

Rice classes start on the 21st.

The game would probably be played on Saturday the 26th in Australia (Friday evening, the 25th in the US), if I had to guess.

Agreed...same timeframe as Cal-Hawaii. Not missing much during first week of school anyways.
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(12-06-2016 05:42 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  Wouldn't be surprised if the Australian sponsors are paying for travel costs... That's what they do for Ireland games. Also, I wonder if we will start our season a week earlier, on the 26th.

Not a fan of this move though. Why give up your sexiest home game?

Agree. Is Army our sexiest home game now?
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But who is going to help move the freshman into the colleges during O-Week?

I would assume this would still count as a Rice home game, and, as a result, boost our attendance figures.

I really don't know how much of a gate we could have expected at HRS for the Stanford game anyway? Are there a lot of Stanford alums in Houston or Texas? Would they have traveled well for this game?
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(12-06-2016 05:57 PM)JSA Wrote:  
(12-06-2016 05:42 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  Wouldn't be surprised if the Australian sponsors are paying for travel costs... That's what they do for Ireland games. Also, I wonder if we will start our season a week earlier, on the 26th.

Not a fan of this move though. Why give up your sexiest home game?

Agree. Is Army our sexiest home game now?

Believe that's a question for THRILL
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RE: Season-opening Stanford Football Game Moved to Sydney, Australia???
To me this would be terrible news. I'm really hoping this is an idea that falls through. Getting big-name, out-of-state teams willing to come play at Rice hardly ever happens anymore. I was really looking forward to seeing Stanford play here and ideally getting to be part of a decent Rice Stadium crowd (kind of like the UCLA game). Although not so much over the last couple seasons, we are usually quite competitive when playing the bigger schools at home.

Moving that game to Australia kills whatever little excitement is left about next year's home schedule. This makes me more upset than bringing Coach Bailiff back. Irregardless of the money to be made, it's a slap in the face to us fans who are desperate to see Rice play more attractive, name-recognition opponents at home.

Unbelievable.
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RE: Season-opening Stanford Football Game Moved to Sydney, Australia???
(12-06-2016 05:36 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(12-06-2016 05:31 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  
(12-06-2016 05:23 PM)Rick Gerlach Wrote:  
(12-06-2016 05:21 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  ...for late August?

This is being reported on the Stanford premium message boards and was apparently announced at an end-of-year football dinner with players. Purportedly this was agreed upon by both schools while JK was in Palo Alto for the season-finale game...and they're now awaiting NCAA approval.

1. If true, I'm assuming we'd get an even bigger pay day out of this since we'd be giving up a home game.

2. I'm scratching my head on the benefit for either program...and who's going to ante up the travel budget?

STANFORD looking for another TV market to dominate. This is a way of getting THEIR foot in the door down under. Also an untapped recruiting territory.

FIFY

I hope the payout is huge because we lose probably the biggest gate of the year. Houston area Stanford grads can't be happy.

On the positive side, Houston outdoor football in August is not appealing.

The pay day will also need of offset a 10-fold increase in travel budget required.

The promoters normally pick up travel expenses for deals like this. Basically, they charter an airplane, you put your players, coaches, etc., on it, and then you sell the extra seats to boosters. Nebraska used to go to Hawaii every year on a deal like that.
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(12-06-2016 06:08 PM)Minnewaska Owl Wrote:  To me this would be terrible news. I'm really hoping this is an idea that falls through. Getting big-name, out-of-state teams willing to come play at Rice hardly ever happens anymore. I was really looking forward to seeing Stanford play here and ideally getting to be part of a decent Rice Stadium crowd (kind of like the UCLA game). Although not so much over the last couple seasons, we are usually quite competitive when playing the bigger schools at home.

Moving that game to Australia kills whatever little excitement is left about next year's home schedule. This makes me more upset than bringing Coach Bailiff back. Irregardless of the money to be made, it's a slap in the face to us fans who are desperate to see Rice play more attractive, name-recognition opponents at home.

Unbelievable.

More money to find a better coaching staff. I think y'all are missing the point here... it's all about the $. We obviously don't care about wins or we wouldn't have brought Bailiff back for another season. So take the 7 figures and run.
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(12-06-2016 05:29 PM)Kayjay Wrote:  If this is true, I believe you will see a number of ancillary benefits from such a move. Sustained national (and international) press coverage, a good TV and international audience payday. An opportunity to recruit internationally, in particular for place kickers and punters and a great platform for Rice to be noticed as an innovator in sports programming, similar to the benefits of the Cuba trip.

well, yeah, except that...we're likely going to get embarrassed and now by a national television audience in USA and now Australia. The damage to the university is arguably as great as the exposure. Now Stanford on the other hand, does reap the benefits at our expense. I hope that we realize a significantly better payday for this to make it more worth it. Like buyout money to get rid of Bailiff, $1.5-$2 million for a new head coach and for better assistants next year. Then it might make better sense.

As much as I'd like to pretend otherwise, expect for the diehards, unlikely that Rice would have a significantly greater opening home crowd than normal for this game at HRS. Arguably few casual fans get really excited about paying to watch a bad team get blown out at home when there's good football games being played on TV at the same time.
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(12-06-2016 05:53 PM)Pan95 Wrote:  
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(12-06-2016 05:50 PM)Pan95 Wrote:  
(12-06-2016 05:43 PM)Bailiff_Lingo_Bingo Wrote:  Maybe DB can use this as recruiting leverage to prevent people from decomitting

Brilliant! Where is the hand clapping emoticon when you need it?

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(12-06-2016 05:59 PM)Pimpa Wrote:  But who is going to help move the freshman into the colleges during O-Week?

Our basketball players are pretty strong from all that SEAL training, I'm sure they could be persuaded to pitch in...and baseball players?
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(12-06-2016 06:28 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  
(12-06-2016 05:29 PM)Kayjay Wrote:  If this is true, I believe you will see a number of ancillary benefits from such a move. Sustained national (and international) press coverage, a good TV and international audience payday. An opportunity to recruit internationally, in particular for place kickers and punters and a great platform for Rice to be noticed as an innovator in sports programming, similar to the benefits of the Cuba trip.

well, yeah, except that...we're likely going to get embarrassed and now by a national television audience in USA and now Australia. The damage to the university is arguably as great as the exposure. Now Stanford on the other hand, does reap the benefits at our expense. I hope that we realize a significantly better payday for this to make it more worth it. Like buyout money to get rid of Bailiff, $1.5-$2 million for a new head coach and for better assistants next year. Then it might make better sense.

As much as I'd like to pretend otherwise, expect for the diehards, unlikely that Rice would have a significantly greater opening home crowd than normal for this game at HRS. Arguably few casual fans get really excited about paying to watch a bad team get blown out at home when there's good football games being played on TV at the same time.

Except there may not be any other games on at the time. For better or worse, this could be the first game of the season, and only game on that night. I remember watching this year's Cal-Hawaii game from Australia with my friends - and being irrationally excited to do so - simply because it was the first football game on TV in almost 7 months. We'd have the night all to ourselves, and all eyes on us.
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I love the idea - especially if they fly the stat crew out to Australia for the game too!
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(12-06-2016 06:53 PM)Pimpa Wrote:  
(12-06-2016 06:28 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  
(12-06-2016 05:29 PM)Kayjay Wrote:  If this is true, I believe you will see a number of ancillary benefits from such a move. Sustained national (and international) press coverage, a good TV and international audience payday. An opportunity to recruit internationally, in particular for place kickers and punters and a great platform for Rice to be noticed as an innovator in sports programming, similar to the benefits of the Cuba trip.

well, yeah, except that...we're likely going to get embarrassed and now by a national television audience in USA and now Australia. The damage to the university is arguably as great as the exposure. Now Stanford on the other hand, does reap the benefits at our expense. I hope that we realize a significantly better payday for this to make it more worth it. Like buyout money to get rid of Bailiff, $1.5-$2 million for a new head coach and for better assistants next year. Then it might make better sense.

As much as I'd like to pretend otherwise, expect for the diehards, unlikely that Rice would have a significantly greater opening home crowd than normal for this game at HRS. Arguably few casual fans get really excited about paying to watch a bad team get blown out at home when there's good football games being played on TV at the same time.

Except there may not be any other games on at the time. For better or worse, this could be the first game of the season, and only game on that night. I remember watching this year's Cal-Hawaii game from Australia with my friends - and being irrationally excited to do so - simply because it was the first football game on TV in almost 7 months. We'd have the night all to ourselves, and all eyes on us.

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One thing they did not pay for in the Cal/Hawaii game was sending the announcers down there. They announced the game from the USA although they did have an Aussie with a strong accent as the sidelines reporter. That was pretty weird.
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(12-06-2016 05:59 PM)Pimpa Wrote:  But who is going to help move the freshman into the colleges during O-Week?

I would assume this would still count as a Rice home game, and, as a result, boost our attendance figures.

I really don't know how much of a gate we could have expected at HRS for the Stanford game anyway? Are there a lot of Stanford alums in Houston or Texas? Would they have traveled well for this game?

To your last two questions, I think yes and yes.
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(12-06-2016 06:36 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  
(12-06-2016 05:59 PM)Pimpa Wrote:  But who is going to help move the freshman into the colleges during O-Week?

Our basketball players are pretty strong from all that SEAL training, I'm sure they could be persuaded to pitch in...and baseball players?

If practice hasn't officially started, is there any reason for the entire basketball or baseball teams to be on campus for orientation week?
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(12-06-2016 06:12 PM)cr11owl Wrote:  
(12-06-2016 06:08 PM)Minnewaska Owl Wrote:  To me this would be terrible news. I'm really hoping this is an idea that falls through. Getting big-name, out-of-state teams willing to come play at Rice hardly ever happens anymore. I was really looking forward to seeing Stanford play here and ideally getting to be part of a decent Rice Stadium crowd (kind of like the UCLA game). Although not so much over the last couple seasons, we are usually quite competitive when playing the bigger schools at home.
Moving that game to Australia kills whatever little excitement is left about next year's home schedule. This makes me more upset than bringing Coach Bailiff back. Irregardless of the money to be made, it's a slap in the face to us fans who are desperate to see Rice play more attractive, name-recognition opponents at home.
Unbelievable.
More money to find a better coaching staff. I think y'all are missing the point here... it's all about the $. We obviously don't care about wins or we wouldn't have brought Bailiff back for another season. So take the 10 figures and run.

For all the people crying about lack of funding, paydays like this are one way to address the problem.

All of this whining about the BOT ought to put more money into athletics? Well, maybe it should, maybe not. lf athletics wants more money, then athletics needs to get serious about generating more revenues. This is one way to do that.
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The obvious question is why Rice, one of the worst teams in Div 1?
(12-06-2016 08:49 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
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(12-06-2016 06:08 PM)Minnewaska Owl Wrote:  To me this would be terrible news. I'm really hoping this is an idea that falls through. Getting big-name, out-of-state teams willing to come play at Rice hardly ever happens anymore. I was really looking forward to seeing Stanford play here and ideally getting to be part of a decent Rice Stadium crowd (kind of like the UCLA game). Although not so much over the last couple seasons, we are usually quite competitive when playing the bigger schools at home.
Moving that game to Australia kills whatever little excitement is left about next year's home schedule. This makes me more upset than bringing Coach Bailiff back. Irregardless of the money to be made, it's a slap in the face to us fans who are desperate to see Rice play more attractive, name-recognition opponents at home.
Unbelievable.
More money to find a better coaching staff. I think y'all are missing the point here... it's all about the $. We obviously don't care about wins or we wouldn't have brought Bailiff back for another season. So take the 10 figures and run.

For all the people crying about lack of funding, paydays like this are one way to address the problem.

All of this whining about the BOT ought to put more money into athletics? Well, maybe it should, maybe not. lf athletics wants more money, then athletics needs to get serious about generating more revenues. This is one way to do that.
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It's a great idea. Probably a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for a lot of kids on the team. A bigly portion of you weren't planning on attending the game at Rice anyway, right?
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