49R,

I find it difficult to believe you'd be able to explain to a voter in North Carolina why his/her vote is less important than a voter in South Carolina.

(11-11-2016 03:13 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  49R,

I find it difficult to believe you'd be able to explain to a voter in North Carolina why his/her vote is less important than a voter in South Carolina.

We can point directly to the Dem/Lib dominated education system in this country for failing to teach civics and government for that condition. I'm pretty certain anyone with half a brain would understand once they realize there is no such thing as a national election in the United States.

Again, don't like DC being a state, then roll Wyoming into South Dakota or Utah or Montana.

The problem is that 40 million Blacks get zero opportunities to elect a Senate candidate where they are the majority. 40 million people live in 21 white dominated states with FORTY TWO Senators.

Look, we have small states. We have states with less population. What we don't have are Black majority states. And there's a territory that would be a state, other than the fact that it is black majority.

49R,

Wow, you're willing to go to a very extreme position --- one undoubtedly supported by fewer than 1% of Americans --- just so you don't have to lose the discussion.

Not unheard on an internet message board.



Sorry 49R, but Americans actually believe that every American gets the same vote. They are correct, you are wrong.

(11-11-2016 03:17 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Again, don't like DC being a state, then roll Wyoming into South Dakota or Utah or Montana.

The problem is that 40 million Blacks get zero opportunities to elect a Senate candidate where they are the majority. 40 million people live in 21 white dominated states with FORTY TWO Senators.

Look, we have small states. We have states with less population. What we don't have are Black majority states.

So no answer as to how statehood for DC benefits for the rest of the country.

Gotcha

(11-11-2016 03:18 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(11-11-2016 03:17 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Again, don't like DC being a state, then roll Wyoming into South Dakota or Utah or Montana.

The problem is that 40 million Blacks get zero opportunities to elect a Senate candidate where they are the majority. 40 million people live in 21 white dominated states with FORTY TWO Senators.

Look, we have small states. We have states with less population. What we don't have are Black majority states.

So no answer as to how statehood for DC benefits for the rest of the country.

Gotcha

How does NC statehood benefit the rest of the country. I suppose it helped prop slavery up for a while, if you'd like to count that. I wouldn't

(11-11-2016 03:18 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  49R,

Wow, you're willing to go to a very extreme position --- one undoubtedly supported by fewer than 1% of Americans --- just so you don't have to lose the discussion.

Not unheard on an internet message board.



Sorry 49R, but Americans actually believe that every American gets the same vote. They are correct, you are wrong.

Legally I am not wrong. For proof see Election 2016. If every American believes something that is not true, it does not make it any less true.

So you now speak for "Americans"?

Every American has the same voting rights but they are not in any way guaranteed the same "weight" of their vote across the nation.

Because.........

We do NOT have a nationwide election!

/done

49R - indeed, it's your right to hide behind what the constitution says, without having to be able to think of an argument that justifies what it says.

It defeats the purpose of the message board, but it's easy.

(11-11-2016 03:23 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  49R - indeed, it's your right to hide behind what the constitution says, without having to be able to think of an argument that justifies what it says.

It defeats the purpose of the message board, but it's easy.

17 pages of this thread and no one has provided a good reason why Maryland cannot just take back DC.

49R - Is that the emoticon for signalling that you've surrendered?

I'd prefer if you actually came up with an argument, myself.

solo,

Because that's a red herring.


The true discussion is: what actually makes a state, a state. No one has even come close to touching that one .... but it's literally the hinge about which everything pivots.

Because if DC met the definition for a state, there would be no logical argument against granting it statehood.

(11-11-2016 03:17 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  The problem is that 40 million Blacks get zero opportunities to elect a Senate candidate where they are the majority. 40 million people live in 21 white dominated states with FORTY TWO Senators.

Look, we have small states. We have states with less population. What we don't have are Black majority states. And there's a territory that would be a state, other than the fact that it is black majority.

Take out the word black and replace it with Hispanic or Muslim or Jewish or Asian or... any group you wish to divide the country- This is an awful argument.

Who says that if the District of Columbia becomes a state, the state would remain with the same population demographics?

(11-11-2016 03:19 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(11-11-2016 03:18 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(11-11-2016 03:17 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Again, don't like DC being a state, then roll Wyoming into South Dakota or Utah or Montana.

The problem is that 40 million Blacks get zero opportunities to elect a Senate candidate where they are the majority. 40 million people live in 21 white dominated states with FORTY TWO Senators.

Look, we have small states. We have states with less population. What we don't have are Black majority states.

So no answer as to how statehood for DC benefits for the rest of the country.

Gotcha

How does NC statehood benefit the rest of the country. I suppose it helped prop slavery up for a while, if you'd like to count that. I wouldn't

Nice try, but NC was one of the original colonies.

(11-11-2016 03:29 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  solo,

Because that's a red herring.


The true discussion is: what actually makes a state, a state. No one has even come close to touching that one .... but it's literally the hinge about which everything pivots.

Because if DC met the definition for a state, there would be no logical argument against granting it statehood.

It doesn't. Tom's stupid argument over.

(11-11-2016 03:29 PM)chess Wrote:  

(11-11-2016 03:17 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  The problem is that 40 million Blacks get zero opportunities to elect a Senate candidate where they are the majority. 40 million people live in 21 white dominated states with FORTY TWO Senators.

Look, we have small states. We have states with less population. What we don't have are Black majority states. And there's a territory that would be a state, other than the fact that it is black majority.

Take out the word black and replace it with Hispanic or Muslim or Jewish or Asian or... any group you wish to divide the country- This is an awful argument.

Who says that if the District of Columbia becomes a state, the state would remain with the same population demographics?

Easy for the person with a majority in 47 states to say.

(11-11-2016 03:28 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Is that the emoticon for signalling that you've surrendered?

No, it's the emoticon for the hissy fit you and your fellow delusionals are making because your girl lost the election legally and you have no real recourse to rig the system for your own side to win. Enjoy the next 4 years.

(11-11-2016 03:30 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(11-11-2016 03:19 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(11-11-2016 03:18 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(11-11-2016 03:17 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Again, don't like DC being a state, then roll Wyoming into South Dakota or Utah or Montana.

The problem is that 40 million Blacks get zero opportunities to elect a Senate candidate where they are the majority. 40 million people live in 21 white dominated states with FORTY TWO Senators.

Look, we have small states. We have states with less population. What we don't have are Black majority states.

So no answer as to how statehood for DC benefits for the rest of the country.

Gotcha

How does NC statehood benefit the rest of the country. I suppose it helped prop slavery up for a while, if you'd like to count that. I wouldn't

Nice try, but NC was one of the original colonies.

Ok..what about Mississippi? WTF have they ever done except rebel and abuse whatever power they've been granted?

(11-11-2016 03:32 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(11-11-2016 03:30 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(11-11-2016 03:19 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(11-11-2016 03:18 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(11-11-2016 03:17 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Again, don't like DC being a state, then roll Wyoming into South Dakota or Utah or Montana.

The problem is that 40 million Blacks get zero opportunities to elect a Senate candidate where they are the majority. 40 million people live in 21 white dominated states with FORTY TWO Senators.

Look, we have small states. We have states with less population. What we don't have are Black majority states.

So no answer as to how statehood for DC benefits for the rest of the country.

Gotcha

How does NC statehood benefit the rest of the country. I suppose it helped prop slavery up for a while, if you'd like to count that. I wouldn't

Nice try, but NC was one of the original colonies.

Ok..what about Mississippi? WTF have they ever done except rebel and abuse whatever power they've been granted?

The Mississippi River was a big draw. It was as important then as interstate highways are now.

49R,

So you're saying that you can't think of an actual reason that DC doesn't meet the definition of a state?