http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/fl...story.html

No argument from me...

The kid's recruitment will re-open and he will land somewhere better than Tulane and spend the next chapter of his life with an ethical coach. IMO he would be a good fit at USF. He is a good kid from a good family. Seminole County, FL is a good place to recruit and Fritz just burned his bridge there- not just with Seminole but with Lake Mary, Lake Brantley, Oviedo, Haggerty, and Lyman too. His dad is a coach and all the coaches in the district know each other.

If I had to guess, the story is probably embellished just a hair.


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(11-03-2016 11:12 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  If I had to guess, the story is probably embellished just a hair.


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I don't think it is at all. We saw Fritz' dirty recruiting tactics first hand when he was at Georgia Southern. This is perfectly in character for him.

(11-03-2016 10:48 AM)DrGonzo Wrote:  http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/fl...story.html

Yup!

Pulling a scholarship after a kids told other teams no is about the lowest thing in college football a coach can do. I dont care when you do it puts a kid in a horrible situation as he basically has told every other school that wanted him they are his second choice at best and most have probably moved on and offered others or had other guys commit. Now they would have to likely at min pull and offer to make room for this guy. IMO this is something you just cant do as a coach for no reason.

Easy to say now for me but I had a gut feeling just below the surface Slick Willie had a scum bag buried deep inside. The over the top celebrations and other times felt disingenuous, much less abandoning your team for interviews before the last game of the season. Dude can coach and wins but looks like he doesn't mind how he does it.

Interesting list. If he's not interested in Service, then FCS it is.




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(11-03-2016 11:39 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  

Interesting list. If he's not interested in Service, then FCS it is.




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I hope GS takes a look at him. He is fast, throwing motion looks a little weird though but hey if it gets there I'll take that as GS fan.

Fritz is a scumbag, but this particular decision doesn't suddenly make him one. It's fairly common practice in collegiate recruiting.

(11-03-2016 11:48 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Fritz is a scumbag, but this particular decision doesn't suddenly make him one. It's fairly common practice in collegiate recruiting.

Agreed. These guys act like this is something new.

I hope when a kid flips in February that someone makes a post calling the kid a scumbag.


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(11-03-2016 10:56 AM)Scrotumus Wrote:  No argument from me...

The kid's recruitment will re-open and he will land somewhere better than Tulane and spend the next chapter of his life with an ethical coach. IMO he would be a good fit at USF. He is a good kid from a good family. Seminole County, FL is a good place to recruit and Fritz just burned his bridge there- not just with Seminole but with Lake Mary, Lake Brantley, Oviedo, Haggerty, and Lyman too. His dad is a coach and all the coaches in the district know each other.

That's a very fertile county with over 400,000 people in it. Not a smart move by Quitz.

(11-03-2016 11:50 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 11:48 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Fritz is a scumbag, but this particular decision doesn't suddenly make him one. It's fairly common practice in collegiate recruiting.

Agreed. These guys act like this is something new.

I hope when a kid flips in February that someone makes a post calling the kid a scumbag.


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I think we all know that 18 year olds are nothing but scumbags in wait.

But they're also kids, and their brain has not fully developed the connections and neural pathways that relate actions to consequences which is why they do dumb ****.

I'd expect much different out of adults, especially at 50+.

(11-03-2016 11:48 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Fritz is a scumbag, but this particular decision doesn't suddenly make him one. It's fairly common practice in collegiate recruiting.

Yeah I agree. This happens quite a bit and others just don't make a big deal about it. It's part of the game. The player can switch his commitment at any time too up until signing day if he wants. It's not fair to cry foul when coaches do it, but not do the same when players do it. He's got plenty of time before signing day to find another team. If he did it the day before signing day that would be a different story. The thing about these stories is the players can slant it any way they want and the coaches at Tulane can't tell their side of the story because of recruiting rules.

(11-03-2016 12:09 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 11:50 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 11:48 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Fritz is a scumbag, but this particular decision doesn't suddenly make him one. It's fairly common practice in collegiate recruiting.

Agreed. These guys act like this is something new.

I hope when a kid flips in February that someone makes a post calling the kid a scumbag.


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I think we all know that 18 year olds are nothing but scumbags in wait.

But they're also kids, and their brain has not fully developed the connections and neural pathways that relate actions to consequences which is why they do dumb ****.

I'd expect much different out of adults, especially at 50+.

Scumbag is tampering with the recruiting board at your old school on the way out the door. It is fairly common place in college athletics for a kid to commit, and then lose his scholarship. Is it right? Debatable, but you guys are crucifying fritz for something that most every Sun Belt Coach would do as well if presented with the same situation. We've done it before...and that High School didn't make a public spectacle out of claiming we were banned for it. Life went on.

(11-03-2016 12:12 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 12:09 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 11:50 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 11:48 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Fritz is a scumbag, but this particular decision doesn't suddenly make him one. It's fairly common practice in collegiate recruiting.

Agreed. These guys act like this is something new.

I hope when a kid flips in February that someone makes a post calling the kid a scumbag.


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I think we all know that 18 year olds are nothing but scumbags in wait.

But they're also kids, and their brain has not fully developed the connections and neural pathways that relate actions to consequences which is why they do dumb ****.

I'd expect much different out of adults, especially at 50+.

Scumbag is tampering with the recruiting board at your old school on the way out the door. It is fairly common place in college athletics for a kid to commit, and then lose his scholarship. Is it right? Debatable, but you guys are crucifying fritz for something that most every Sun Belt Coach would do as well if presented with the same situation. We've done it before...and that High School didn't make a public spectacle out of claiming we were banned for it. Life went on.

I'm not crucifying him, although I do think it's unfair to the kid who showed so much commitment to their program and seems to be one of the ones that isn't "committed but not committed." Fortunately, it seems to at least be early enough to where he can still start looking and have some time to get several options.

And yes, Fritz was a scumbag on his way out. For real.

App has made an effort to point out Fritz's recruiting practices since he came to Georgia Southern (notice the OP?). A lot of it came out when we flipped Obe Fortune. I'm not saying their inaccurate based on events since that time, but we weren't the first ones to dip into this argument.

My point about 18 year olds stands though. They're scumbags. Or they're waiting to be scumbags. It happened to all of us. We weren't angels. That's all I was getting at.

Hope the young man signs with another AAC school and torches the Green Wave four years.

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(11-03-2016 12:12 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 12:09 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 11:50 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 11:48 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Fritz is a scumbag, but this particular decision doesn't suddenly make him one. It's fairly common practice in collegiate recruiting.

Agreed. These guys act like this is something new.

I hope when a kid flips in February that someone makes a post calling the kid a scumbag.

Moral equivalence aside pulling offers tends to piss high school coaches off and news spreads. Not good business.


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I think we all know that 18 year olds are nothing but scumbags in wait.

But they're also kids, and their brain has not fully developed the connections and neural pathways that relate actions to consequences which is why they do dumb ****.

I'd expect much different out of adults, especially at 50+.

Scumbag is tampering with the recruiting board at your old school on the way out the door. It is fairly common place in college athletics for a kid to commit, and then lose his scholarship. Is it right? Debatable, but you guys are crucifying fritz for something that most every Sun Belt Coach would do as well if presented with the same situation. We've done it before...and that High School didn't make a public spectacle out of claiming we were banned for it. Life went on.

I have never heard of GS pulling an offer for zero reason to this point. Yes 18 year old kids change their minds a little more. Both are crappy but I dont see them near the same.

When Nick Saban does this, he's a genius. When Fritz does it he's a scum bag.

(11-03-2016 12:21 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 12:12 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 12:09 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 11:50 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 11:48 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Fritz is a scumbag, but this particular decision doesn't suddenly make him one. It's fairly common practice in collegiate recruiting.

Agreed. These guys act like this is something new.

I hope when a kid flips in February that someone makes a post calling the kid a scumbag.

Moral equivalence aside pulling offers tends to piss high school coaches off and news spreads. Not good business.


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I think we all know that 18 year olds are nothing but scumbags in wait.

But they're also kids, and their brain has not fully developed the connections and neural pathways that relate actions to consequences which is why they do dumb ****.

I'd expect much different out of adults, especially at 50+.

Scumbag is tampering with the recruiting board at your old school on the way out the door. It is fairly common place in college athletics for a kid to commit, and then lose his scholarship. Is it right? Debatable, but you guys are crucifying fritz for something that most every Sun Belt Coach would do as well if presented with the same situation. We've done it before...and that High School didn't make a public spectacle out of claiming we were banned for it. Life went on.

I have never heard of GS pulling an offer for zero reason to this point. Yes 18 year old kids change their minds a little more. Both are crappy but I dont see them near the same.

There wasn't zero reason, they likely only wanted one QB commit per class like we do, and saw with their record that there was a more immediate need for a JUCO kid who could start immediately, than a Freshman who would need seasoning and a redshirt year.

We recruit in a state where the local SEC school likes to Toy with recruits until the last second, leaving them in the dark about whether or not their offer is valid, or if they will even get an offer to begin with. Because of that Anderson has several offers each class that are "non commit-able" It's an offer, but not one the recruit can commit to. We do it so if the local SEC screws over the local 4 star kid for the 5 star flavor of the day in late January, we can jump in and pick up the pieces without screwing over one of our own commits in the process.

That's what Fritz should have done. But this doesn't make him a scumbag.

Maybe it's common practice, but I think the gist of this is that Fritz made him drop his search and commit 100% to Tulane with no more contact or visits anywhere else.