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RE: Troy at South Alabama - Battle For The Belt - Discussion Thread
(10-21-2016 01:46 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  Troy has the better team this year and it is obvious.

USA played damned hard and almost pulled off the upset despite being outclassed. There is no shame in that. That is what happens in good rivalries.

Both teams did all of us in the conference right.

Not sure why some are upset.

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They were better, no doubt about that. But not in a different class.
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TROY is 6-1 and only lost by 6 at #2 clemson. YET,YET some in this thread post like the Trojans are too highly regarded because they have a close rivalry win on the road. WHY?Jealously,hate,or ignorance ??

Congrats on a great season so far to all the TROY fans !!
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(10-21-2016 02:32 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  TROY is 6-1 and only lost by 6 at #2 clemson. YET,YET some in this thread post like the Trojans are too highly regarded because they have a close rivalry win on the road. WHY?Jealously,hate,or ignorance ??

Congrats on a great season so far to all the TROY fans !!

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Troy fans were the first to post that they should have won bigger. Maybe that's the reason in itself?
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(10-21-2016 02:40 PM)USAJag2011 Wrote:  
(10-21-2016 02:32 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  TROY is 6-1 and only lost by 6 at #2 clemson. YET,YET some in this thread post like the Trojans are too highly regarded because they have a close rivalry win on the road. WHY?Jealously,hate,or ignorance ??

Congrats on a great season so far to all the TROY fans !!

Troy fans were the first to post that they should have won bigger. Maybe that's the reason in itself?

That was in response to several posters saying Troy is not an impressive team during the game thread. A few red wolf fans were saying no way Troy is better than Arkansas State, based on a rivalry game. Maybe we aren't, I dunno, but offensively and defensively we're way better than the scoreboard shows due to turnovers and a muffed punt (part of the game, one that usually does not haunt Troy). We'll see if it's a trend when we play UMASS after the bye.
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(10-21-2016 02:40 PM)USAJag2011 Wrote:  
(10-21-2016 02:32 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  TROY is 6-1 and only lost by 6 at #2 clemson. YET,YET some in this thread post like the Trojans are too highly regarded because they have a close rivalry win on the road. WHY?Jealously,hate,or ignorance ??

Congrats on a great season so far to all the TROY fans !!

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Troy fans were the first to post that they should have won bigger. Maybe that's the reason in itself?
Not all Troy fans feel that way...prior to the game, I felt this would be a game the defense could capitalize upon the lack of running ability of the jags. They played a very fortunate 1st half and Troy played a fortunate 2nd half. I won't downplay what a special game it turned out to be.

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Guess we will see how the season goes.

I think a few can't wrap their heads around that Troy may Be back so soon
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(10-21-2016 02:50 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  
(10-21-2016 02:40 PM)USAJag2011 Wrote:  
(10-21-2016 02:32 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  TROY is 6-1 and only lost by 6 at #2 clemson. YET,YET some in this thread post like the Trojans are too highly regarded because they have a close rivalry win on the road. WHY?Jealously,hate,or ignorance ??

Congrats on a great season so far to all the TROY fans !!

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Troy fans were the first to post that they should have won bigger. Maybe that's the reason in itself?
Not all Troy fans feel that way...prior to the game, I felt this would be a game the defense could capitalize upon the lack of running ability of the jags. They played a very fortunate 1st half and Troy played a fortunate 2nd half. I won't downplay what a special game it turned out to be.

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I know that, I don't mean to group all Troy fans together.

Regarding the running game, Xavior Johnson looked really good before the cheap shot that ended his night. I think he had the quickness to get a few yards that our other backs just don't have. It took away our running game plan. I thought it was a good game in a good atmosphere. The way rivalry games should be played.
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(10-21-2016 02:51 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  Guess we will see how the season goes.

I think a few can't wrap their heads around that Troy may Be back so soon

We were I think 4-8 then Freeze came in and boom here we go. The difference was we hardly believed til we did it. Some really jumped on the Troy bandwagon quick. All of a sudden y'all better than white bread. You may be. I expected a bit more after reading what the fans were saying. Should know better...lol. Did not see it in this game. Stopping the USA is not that hard. They only scored 7 and May not have done that if one of our d b backs had made a tackle instead trying to strip. I am amazed they scored enough to beat Miss St and San Diego St. Sorry USA ....but I am glad you did.
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(10-21-2016 03:02 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  
(10-21-2016 02:51 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  Guess we will see how the season goes.

I think a few can't wrap their heads around that Troy may Be back so soon

We were I think 4-8 then Freeze came in and boom here we go. The difference was we hardly believed til we did it. Some really jumped on the Troy bandwagon quick. All of a sudden y'all better than white bread. You may be. I expected a bit more after reading what the fans were saying. Should know better...lol. Did not see it in this game. Stopping the USA is not that hard. They only scored 7 and May not have done that if one of our d b backs had made a tackle instead trying to strip. I am amazed they scored enough to beat Miss St and San Diego St. Sorry USA ....but I am glad you did.

Really? You blame your DBs trying to strip the ball when just that may have won you the game? If you didn't strip that ball early in the game, we might have scored and got momentum. You can't erase your negative plays but keep ours.
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(10-21-2016 03:02 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  
(10-21-2016 02:51 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  Guess we will see how the season goes.

I think a few can't wrap their heads around that Troy may Be back so soon

They only scored 7 and May not have done that if one of our d b backs had made a tackle instead trying to strip. I am amazed they scored enough to beat Miss St and San Diego St. Sorry USA ....but I am glad you did.

On two of their touchdowns we gave them really short fields after a turnover and a muffed punt. They got the ball on our 33 and our 10 yard lines. That was mid 1st QTR. The rest of the night they were only able to drive the length of the field once. We outscored them 28-7 after the middle of the 1st. Versus GSU, we gave them 14 points off 60 yards in penalties. Troy's defensive gameplan is probably better than you guys are giving us credit for. We have to learn as a team not give offenses easy points from turnovers and penalties. It's part of the game I know, but it's uncharacteristic for Troy to give opponents easy field position. We'll see if it's a trend when we play UMASS.
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(10-21-2016 03:10 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(10-21-2016 03:02 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  
(10-21-2016 02:51 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  Guess we will see how the season goes.

I think a few can't wrap their heads around that Troy may Be back so soon

They only scored 7 and May not have done that if one of our d b backs had made a tackle instead trying to strip. I am amazed they scored enough to beat Miss St and San Diego St. Sorry USA ....but I am glad you did.

On two of their touchdowns we gave them really short fields after a turnover and a muffed punt. They got the ball on our 33 and our 10 yard lines. That was mid 1st QTR. The rest of the night they were only able to drive the length of the field once. We outscored them 28-7 after the middle of the 1st. Versus GSU, we gave them 14 points of 60 yards in penalties. Troy's defensive gameplan is probably better than you guys are giving us credit for. We have to learn as a team not give offenses easy points from turnovers and penalties.

We are really good at forcing fumbles. Our defense deserves credit for those. And are you referring to your punter not getting the punt off when you say muffed punt?
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Just remember....this gamr if i remember correctyly was only an over/under of 9. I think the game was great and this being a rivalry i believe both teams did what they had to do to win. CRY HAVOC AND MARCH ON, TROY!!!!!
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(10-21-2016 03:14 PM)USAJag2011 Wrote:  
(10-21-2016 03:10 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(10-21-2016 03:02 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  
(10-21-2016 02:51 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  Guess we will see how the season goes.

I think a few can't wrap their heads around that Troy may Be back so soon

They only scored 7 and May not have done that if one of our d b backs had made a tackle instead trying to strip. I am amazed they scored enough to beat Miss St and San Diego St. Sorry USA ....but I am glad you did.

On two of their touchdowns we gave them really short fields after a turnover and a muffed punt. They got the ball on our 33 and our 10 yard lines. That was mid 1st QTR. The rest of the night they were only able to drive the length of the field once. We outscored them 28-7 after the middle of the 1st. Versus GSU, we gave them 14 points of 60 yards in penalties. Troy's defensive gameplan is probably better than you guys are giving us credit for. We have to learn as a team not give offenses easy points from turnovers and penalties.

We are really good at forcing fumbles. Our defense deserves credit for those. And are you referring to your punter not getting the punt off when you say muffed punt?

Certainly, they deserve credit. Semantics I guess. He could have handled the punt better. I don't think you would have scored if you had to drive the length of the field.
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The punter wasn't ready, much less for a low snap. When they snap came his hands were behind his back.

Can we just agree that we all hate Troy and move on??? Thanks......
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(10-21-2016 03:31 PM)Usajags Wrote:  The punter wasn't ready, much less for a low snap. When they snap came his hands were behind his back.

Can we just agree that we all hate Troy and move on??? Thanks......

Some of the new people don't know about hating Troy yet.
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(10-21-2016 03:45 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(10-21-2016 03:31 PM)Usajags Wrote:  The punter wasn't ready, much less for a low snap. When they snap came his hands were behind his back.

Can we just agree that we all hate Troy and move on??? Thanks......

Some of the new people don't know about hating Troy yet.

Ahhh...the good ol' days...03-cloud9
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Let me clear something up, I still want Troy to win their non conference games, SBC SBC SBC!!! And all that.

But for the health of our rivalry, and the fact they just beat us on our field, I hate Troy!!!!
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(10-21-2016 01:15 PM)JoeJag Wrote:  
(10-21-2016 10:45 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  
(10-21-2016 10:08 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(10-21-2016 08:23 AM)Usajags Wrote:  
(10-20-2016 10:34 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Dude, we were supposed to be 1-6 or 2-5 at this point. We're 3-4. Our remaining schedule is

Ga State at home. Ga State isn't bad, but we can win that one.
ULM on the road. We can win that one too.
Presbyterian at home. We better win that one
Idaho on the road. We'll be an underdog, but it wouldn't be a big upset if we won that one
NMSU at home. We should be favored in that one.

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Remember, with only 73 FBS projected to qualify for a bowl, USA at 6-6 (with 2 FCS wins) probably gets into a bowl, as 6-6 teams with 2 FCS wins goes before the APR teams.

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So we lost to Troy. It happens. Vegas said we were going to win 2 or 3 games all year. We've already played @Miss State, SDSU, Troy, @Ark State, and Ga Southern.

Now all we have to do is figure out how to stop with the massive penalties and how to put together some consistent offense.

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By the way, we have a home and home with Memphis coming up. I wouldn't talk so big if I were you guys. Memphis is just the kind of team we beat.

Why should we be happy that we were expected to be 1-6......year 8 should have better results then expecting to be 1-6. I'm happy with our two big wins. We had to fight to win the FCS game. No reason we should be happy about losing to ULL, stAte or GaSo this season. I want CJJ and his staff to be successful, but history shows we are always penalized a ton, a lot in critical situations, which shows a lack of discipline on the field.

If we make a bowl this season, the calls will quiet, but it is time to compete for the conference championship, and we haven't done that.

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Moving up for a greenfield is hard. Teams usually end up with massive problems with asymmetrical class sizes. Look at UTSA. Look at Georgia State. These are our peers - not Ga Southern or App. Get to one decent year then sink back down for a couple of years.

I'm not excusing USA's suckitude in the last couple of games, or our lack of progress. I've had and continue to have concerns about the program and its leadership. I'm just providing a bit of context.

If USA gets to a bowl this year, it will be a success based upon the baseline of pre-season expectations. We're still in it. Now we just need to friggin' execute.

The problem is USA became UAB south instead of doing some actual recruiting.

Maybe so, but as a ULM fan you have some stones saying anything about other teams' failures. South should kick the war buzzards' fannies. We just lost a close one to a better coached team in a hard faught rivalry game in front of over 30,000 fans. What the hell has ULM done lately?

Classic response right there, what does anything I said have anything to do with ULM? If I changed my screen name, the point remains the same.
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How do fans of Troy and USA feel the teams compared in talent in their matched up?

From the post on AStateNation it appears the posters there thought USA was more talented than GaSo.

Just going from memory the spreadsheet I punched data into had them neck and neck in the talent department.

Finally, a question for Troy fans. Based on their roster talent I posted here either last year or the year before "welcome back Troy" and predicted success based on their talent, and wonder why it took to this year for their talent to show up on the field?
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