I'll echo what Speedking said, it was a great showcase for the Belt. Nice showing for both fanbases.

Congrats to both teams on a great game. I really enjoyed watching this one.

(10-21-2016 08:23 AM)Usajags Wrote:  

(10-20-2016 10:34 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(10-20-2016 10:27 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Joey Jones and the flop. The Bear just rolled over in his grave. Wow.

Dude, we were supposed to be 1-6 or 2-5 at this point. We're 3-4. Our remaining schedule is

Ga State at home. Ga State isn't bad, but we can win that one.
ULM on the road. We can win that one too.
Presbyterian at home. We better win that one
Idaho on the road. We'll be an underdog, but it wouldn't be a big upset if we won that one
NMSU at home. We should be favored in that one.

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Remember, with only 73 FBS projected to qualify for a bowl, USA at 6-6 (with 2 FCS wins) probably gets into a bowl, as 6-6 teams with 2 FCS wins goes before the APR teams.

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So we lost to Troy. It happens. Vegas said we were going to win 2 or 3 games all year. We've already played @Miss State, SDSU, Troy, @Ark State, and Ga Southern.

Now all we have to do is figure out how to stop with the massive penalties and how to put together some consistent offense.

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By the way, we have a home and home with Memphis coming up. I wouldn't talk so big if I were you guys. Memphis is just the kind of team we beat.

Why should we be happy that we were expected to be 1-6......year 8 should have better results then expecting to be 1-6. I'm happy with our two big wins. We had to fight to win the FCS game. No reason we should be happy about losing to ULL, stAte or GaSo this season. I want CJJ and his staff to be successful, but history shows we are always penalized a ton, a lot in critical situations, which shows a lack of discipline on the field.

If we make a bowl this season, the calls will quiet, but it is time to compete for the conference championship, and we haven't done that.

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Moving up for a greenfield is hard. Teams usually end up with massive problems with asymmetrical class sizes. Look at UTSA. Look at Georgia State. These are our peers - not Ga Southern or App. Get to one decent year then sink back down for a couple of years.

I'm not excusing USA's suckitude in the last couple of games, or our lack of progress. I've had and continue to have concerns about the program and its leadership. I'm just providing a bit of context.

If USA gets to a bowl this year, it will be a success based upon the baseline of pre-season expectations. We're still in it. Now we just need to friggin' execute.

man, you guys need to find your offense, your defense is doing their part, but your offense struggles just to put togeather 2 or 3 first downs in a series, just aren't going to win many games asking your defense to carry the team every game. Last night you should have won that game, but your offense couldn't stay on the field long enough to give your defense some rest, and Troy took advantage but pounding you with their big running back in the 4th quarter. Hate to say it, but your not going to make a bowl if your offense doesn't start playing better.

We are a rather young team, both QB's that have played this season are sophomores. Just tired of the penalties and the cramps. Maybe what we need is a new strength and conditioning coach.

(10-21-2016 10:08 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 08:23 AM)Usajags Wrote:  

(10-20-2016 10:34 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(10-20-2016 10:27 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Joey Jones and the flop. The Bear just rolled over in his grave. Wow.

Dude, we were supposed to be 1-6 or 2-5 at this point. We're 3-4. Our remaining schedule is

Ga State at home. Ga State isn't bad, but we can win that one.
ULM on the road. We can win that one too.
Presbyterian at home. We better win that one
Idaho on the road. We'll be an underdog, but it wouldn't be a big upset if we won that one
NMSU at home. We should be favored in that one.

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Remember, with only 73 FBS projected to qualify for a bowl, USA at 6-6 (with 2 FCS wins) probably gets into a bowl, as 6-6 teams with 2 FCS wins goes before the APR teams.

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So we lost to Troy. It happens. Vegas said we were going to win 2 or 3 games all year. We've already played @Miss State, SDSU, Troy, @Ark State, and Ga Southern.

Now all we have to do is figure out how to stop with the massive penalties and how to put together some consistent offense.

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By the way, we have a home and home with Memphis coming up. I wouldn't talk so big if I were you guys. Memphis is just the kind of team we beat.

Why should we be happy that we were expected to be 1-6......year 8 should have better results then expecting to be 1-6. I'm happy with our two big wins. We had to fight to win the FCS game. No reason we should be happy about losing to ULL, stAte or GaSo this season. I want CJJ and his staff to be successful, but history shows we are always penalized a ton, a lot in critical situations, which shows a lack of discipline on the field.

If we make a bowl this season, the calls will quiet, but it is time to compete for the conference championship, and we haven't done that.

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Moving up for a greenfield is hard. Teams usually end up with massive problems with asymmetrical class sizes. Look at UTSA. Look at Georgia State. These are our peers - not Ga Southern or App. Get to one decent year then sink back down for a couple of years.

I'm not excusing USA's suckitude in the last couple of games, or our lack of progress. I've had and continue to have concerns about the program and its leadership. I'm just providing a bit of context.

If USA gets to a bowl this year, it will be a success based upon the baseline of pre-season expectations. We're still in it. Now we just need to friggin' execute.

The problem is USA became UAB south instead of doing some actual recruiting.

The problem is USA became UAB south instead of doing some actual recruiting.
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Could not agree more, if we could go back and have a redo, would jump on it. The UAB experiment put us back several years, screwed up the team chemistry and will haunt us for several years. I believe it was a panic move by Joey that back fired.

I didn't have a chance to watch the game so I was following on gamecast. It was extremely puzzling to see the score and then look at the box score for the entire game. You had to think that the law of averages would correct themselves eventually as the score finally reflected what the box score showed but through 3 and a half quarters it certainly looked like Troy was winning on all fronts.

(10-21-2016 11:37 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  I didn't have a chance to watch the game so I was following on gamecast. It was extremely puzzling to see the score and then look at the box score for the entire game. You had to think that the law of averages would correct themselves eventually as the score finally reflected what the box score showed but through 3 and a half quarters it certainly looked like Troy was winning on all fronts.

I agree. Two turnovers and muffed punt made the game much closer than what it should have. 14 of their 21 points came off turnovers. We gave them the ball at our 35 and our 10 yard line and they scored on both. Our defense played very well when they had normal field position.

(10-21-2016 12:09 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 11:37 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  I didn't have a chance to watch the game so I was following on gamecast. It was extremely puzzling to see the score and then look at the box score for the entire game. You had to think that the law of averages would correct themselves eventually as the score finally reflected what the box score showed but through 3 and a half quarters it certainly looked like Troy was winning on all fronts.

I agree. Two turnovers and muffed punt made the game much closer than what it should have. 14 of their 21 points came off turnovers. We gave them the ball at our 35 and our 10 yard line and they scored on both. Our defense played very well when they had normal field position.

It wasn't only the turnovers as there was only 1 through three quarters if I remember correctly. What I saw was a ton of yards by Troy, one turnover, yet USA was leading at halftime with half the number of yards. Generally speaking, if you're a team like USA, you can't let Troy hang around. USA put SDSU away when holding a relatively slim lead and didn't give them a shot. App could've been up big on Arkansas State last year but let them hang around and the game became a tale of two halves.

I'll have to watch this game today but it seemed like a solid match-up that followed what many predicted would happen.

(10-21-2016 10:19 AM)moehler Wrote:  Last night you should have won that game, but your offense couldn't stay on the field long enough to give your defense some rest, and Troy took advantage but pounding you with their big running back in the 4th quarter.

I don't think they should have won. They were outclassed on all fronts except for turnovers (one fumble, one strip, and muffed punt). Troy is not a turnover prone team despite last night's performance and still leads the Sun Belt in turnover margin. I know many are expecting to get those kind of mistakes when you play us, but we haven't been on that side of the turnover margin all year. Some of you are confusing a bad performance with a bad team (not necessarily you, moehler. Just replying to your quote).

Box Score Notes to consider:

Offensive Yards: Troy 585, USA 340
First Downs: Troy 28, USA 12
Sacks: Troy 6, USA 0.
Pass Yards: Troy 395 (USA lead the conference with 142 defensive pass yards, and still leads the conference in defensive pass yards despite being carved up like a Thanksgiving turkey).

They should have not have won that game and were lucky for it to be that close. We played down to our opponent and almost lost. That won't be the case when we play APP, ASU, and GS who are our equals and possibly better at this point. Troy has the offensive and defensive talent and coaching to win out, but we can't make any mistakes the rest of the way. I'd put APP #1 until we can cut it out with the penalties and recent turnovers and put Troy tied with Arkansas State. GS right there at fourth. It's so close with the top four though.

(10-21-2016 12:14 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 12:09 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 11:37 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  I didn't have a chance to watch the game so I was following on gamecast. It was extremely puzzling to see the score and then look at the box score for the entire game. You had to think that the law of averages would correct themselves eventually as the score finally reflected what the box score showed but through 3 and a half quarters it certainly looked like Troy was winning on all fronts.

I agree. Two turnovers and muffed punt made the game much closer than what it should have. 14 of their 21 points came off turnovers. We gave them the ball at our 35 and our 10 yard line and they scored on both. Our defense played very well when they had normal field position.

It wasn't only the turnovers as there was only 1 through three quarters if I remember correctly. What I saw was a ton of yards by Troy, one turnover, yet USA was leading at halftime with half the number of yards.

I consider a muffed punt at the ten a turnover, at least when you consider they got it our ten yard line. When they had to drive the length of the field, they couldn't do it except for long bomb down the sideline when beat #22.

(10-21-2016 12:26 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 10:19 AM)moehler Wrote:  Last night you should have won that game, but your offense couldn't stay on the field long enough to give your defense some rest, and Troy took advantage but pounding you with their big running back in the 4th quarter.

I don't think they should have won. They were outclassed on all fronts except for turnovers (one fumble, one strip, and muffed punt). Troy is not a turnover prone team despite last night's performance and still leads the Sun Belt in turnover margin. I know many are expecting to get those kind of mistakes when you play us, but we haven't been on that side of the turnover margin all year. Some of you are confusing a bad performance with a bad team (not necessarily you, moehler. Just replying to your quote).

Box Score Notes to consider:

Offensive Yards: Troy 585, USA 340
First Downs: Troy 28, USA 12
Sacks: Troy 6, USA 0.
Pass Yards: Troy 395 (USA lead the conference with 142 defensive pass yards, and still leads the conference in defensive pass yards despite being carved up like a Thanksgiving turkey).

They should have not have won that game and were lucky for it to be that close. We played down to our opponent and almost lost. That won't be the case when we play APP, ASU, and GS who are our equals and possibly better at this point. Troy has the offensive and defensive talent and coaching to win out, but we can't make any mistakes the rest of the way. I'd put APP #1 until we can cut it out with the penalties and recent turnovers and put Troy tied with Arkansas State. GS right there at fourth. It's so close with the top four though.

You are right, Troy outclassed USA. But I don't think Troy played down to them. I think this thing is actually moving towards being a real honest to goodness rivalry game and in those.....you can throw being outclassed out the window sometimes. They often have a life of their own.

It's a good thing for both schools and for the conference.

So suddenly winning by 7 is "out classing"? Only one stat matters in football. Yes, our depleted defense gave up a ton of yards and bowed up when they needed to most of the night. We were one play and a couple penalties from winning or going to OT. I call that a good football game.

Again, Congrats to Troy on a good win. You guys played a great game and we didn't have an answer in the 2nd half. I wish you all good luck (except #22, I hope he gets beat on every play the rest of the year). I will still be cheering against you, but still, good luck.

(10-20-2016 10:08 PM)WolfBird Wrote:  Lol man. It's got to be awful to be a South Alabama fan.


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At least we don't keep any secrets about what team we support on this site, you chickens---.

(10-21-2016 12:52 PM)USAJag2011 Wrote:  So suddenly winning by 7 is "out classing"? Only one stat matters in football. Yes, our depleted defense gave up a ton of yards and bowed up when they needed to most of the night. We were one play and a couple penalties from winning or going to OT. I call that a good football game.

Again, Congrats to Troy on a good win. You guys played a great game and we didn't have an answer in the 2nd half. I wish you all good luck (except #22, I hope he gets beat on every play the rest of the year). I will still be cheering against you, but still, good luck.

It's okay, the Troy fans are riding the wave, let them have at that. The scoreboard is all that matters because people can't discount turnovers as much as they would like. Even in Peewee football we were taught not to go home, have to reflect on a game and say "woulda, coulda, shoulda". Turnovers are a part of the game and it almost cost Troy early in conference play against an in-state rival.

The box score may not be favorable but ultimately it doesn't matter. USA played well enough to win, they just couldn't batten down the hatches late and Troy took advantage. That's what happens when you let good teams hang around; they find a way to win. Most people, from what I can tell, assumed that the game would unfold exactly as it did.

(10-21-2016 12:58 PM)JoeJag Wrote:  

(10-20-2016 10:08 PM)WolfBird Wrote:  Lol man. It's got to be awful to be a South Alabama fan.


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Finally, I found someone willing to call wolfbird for what he is.

(10-21-2016 01:00 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 12:52 PM)USAJag2011 Wrote:  So suddenly winning by 7 is "out classing"? Only one stat matters in football. Yes, our depleted defense gave up a ton of yards and bowed up when they needed to most of the night. We were one play and a couple penalties from winning or going to OT. I call that a good football game.

Again, Congrats to Troy on a good win. You guys played a great game and we didn't have an answer in the 2nd half. I wish you all good luck (except #22, I hope he gets beat on every play the rest of the year). I will still be cheering against you, but still, good luck.

It's okay, the Troy fans are riding the wave, let them have at that. The scoreboard is all that matters because people can't discount turnovers as much as they would like. Even in Peewee football we were taught not to go home, have to reflect on a game and say "woulda, coulda, shoulda". Turnovers are a part of the game and it almost cost Troy early in conference play against an in-state rival.

The box score may not be favorable but ultimately it doesn't matter. USA played well enough to win, they just couldn't batten down the hatches late and Troy took advantage. That's what happens when you let good teams hang around; they find a way to win. Most people, from what I can tell, assumed that the game would unfold exactly as it did.

Those are fair points, Eric. I'm just saying you can't look at this game and assume we're going to make the same mistakes vs our conference foes, when we played our worst game of the year against a rivalry opponent. It's wishful thinking for most to pick an opponents worst game and believe that's what they'll get. I pointed out the box score to illustrate that we're better offensively and defensively than people think. That said, we have some things to correct and hopefully we'll play our best ball down the stretch.

Best of luck to USA fans. Your team and crowd had tons of energy and made it a truly fun game to watch. If you guys can keep emotions the rest of the way you'll get bowl eligible.

(10-21-2016 10:45 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 10:08 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 08:23 AM)Usajags Wrote:  

(10-20-2016 10:34 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(10-20-2016 10:27 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Joey Jones and the flop. The Bear just rolled over in his grave. Wow.

Dude, we were supposed to be 1-6 or 2-5 at this point. We're 3-4. Our remaining schedule is

Ga State at home. Ga State isn't bad, but we can win that one.
ULM on the road. We can win that one too.
Presbyterian at home. We better win that one
Idaho on the road. We'll be an underdog, but it wouldn't be a big upset if we won that one
NMSU at home. We should be favored in that one.

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Remember, with only 73 FBS projected to qualify for a bowl, USA at 6-6 (with 2 FCS wins) probably gets into a bowl, as 6-6 teams with 2 FCS wins goes before the APR teams.

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So we lost to Troy. It happens. Vegas said we were going to win 2 or 3 games all year. We've already played @Miss State, SDSU, Troy, @Ark State, and Ga Southern.

Now all we have to do is figure out how to stop with the massive penalties and how to put together some consistent offense.

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By the way, we have a home and home with Memphis coming up. I wouldn't talk so big if I were you guys. Memphis is just the kind of team we beat.

Why should we be happy that we were expected to be 1-6......year 8 should have better results then expecting to be 1-6. I'm happy with our two big wins. We had to fight to win the FCS game. No reason we should be happy about losing to ULL, stAte or GaSo this season. I want CJJ and his staff to be successful, but history shows we are always penalized a ton, a lot in critical situations, which shows a lack of discipline on the field.

If we make a bowl this season, the calls will quiet, but it is time to compete for the conference championship, and we haven't done that.

----

Moving up for a greenfield is hard. Teams usually end up with massive problems with asymmetrical class sizes. Look at UTSA. Look at Georgia State. These are our peers - not Ga Southern or App. Get to one decent year then sink back down for a couple of years.

I'm not excusing USA's suckitude in the last couple of games, or our lack of progress. I've had and continue to have concerns about the program and its leadership. I'm just providing a bit of context.

If USA gets to a bowl this year, it will be a success based upon the baseline of pre-season expectations. We're still in it. Now we just need to friggin' execute.

The problem is USA became UAB south instead of doing some actual recruiting.

Maybe so, but as a ULM fan you have some stones saying anything about other teams' failures. South should kick the war buzzards' fannies. We just lost a close one to a better coached team in a hard faught rivalry game in front of over 30,000 fans. What the hell has ULM done lately?

Troy has the better team this year and it is obvious.

USA played damned hard and almost pulled off the upset despite being outclassed. There is no shame in that. That is what happens in good rivalries.

Both teams did all of us in the conference right.

Not sure why some are upset.

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