(10-18-2016 08:39 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  It's a nice concept, but even you guys have to realize that ESPN and the other TV networks don't care about anything outside the Power 5?

It's just not the same world.

Fox didn't think that when they paid the Big East big dollars-- and they don't even have football.

We will not get P5 type money but we will get a substantial raise and will further separate from the rest of the G4.

There are a lot of players out there now with money (not just espn) It's a new world. The AAC needs to take advantage.

to recap:

BCS revenue was distributed like this-
P5: 80% (16%+16%+16%+16%+16%)
Big East: 16%
G5: 4% (0.8%+0.8%+0.8%+0.8%+0.8%)

CFP revenue is distributed like this-
P5: 80% (16%+16%+16%+16%+16%)
G5: 20% (4%+4%+4%+4%+4%)

where is the AAC going to get the revenue from to be equal with the P5? From the P5? From the G5? From the Tooth Fairy? Because without equal revenue you're not really part of the P5.

The P5 destroyed their 6th competitor(BE) and spread its remains among the Little Sisters of the Poor while pretending they were being generous with the revenue increases (they weren't). It was all a power play. If you think they are going to undo all of that devious work to allow a 6th competitor to rise up you are living in a fantasy world.

(10-18-2016 08:59 PM)malenko2 Wrote:  Mcmurphy does not believe the AAC is going to get any additional money from ESPN or any other network in the future:

https://mobile.twitter.com/McMurphyESPN/...2964134917

He also says that the top half of the AAC and MWC together wouldn't be able to separate from the rest of the G5.

https://mobile.twitter.com/McMurphyESPN/...7661615105

Aresco has worked in TV for decades, for cbs and ESPN. Do you think he might know more about it than Brett McMurphy? I do.

McMumphrey is part of the evil empire P5 machine. What is he gonna say? He's a puppet.

(10-18-2016 09:22 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  to recap:

BCS revenue was distributed like this-
P5: 80% (16%+16%+16%+16%+16%)
Big East: 16%
G5: 4% (0.8%+0.8%+0.8%+0.8%+0.8%)

CFP revenue is distributed like this-
P5: 80% (16%+16%+16%+16%+16%)
G5: 20% (4%+4%+4%+4%+4%)

where is the AAC going to get the revenue from to be equal with the P5? From the P5? From the G5? From the Tooth Fairy? Because without equal revenue you're not really part of the P5.

The P5 destroyed their 6th competitor(BE) and spread its remains among the Little Sisters of the Poor while pretending they were being generous with the revenue increases (they weren't). It was all a power play. If you think they are going to undo all of that devious work to allow a 6th competitor to rise up you are living in a fantasy world.

It's a marketing strategy. It's what we must do. We have a story to tell and we just push our agenda the same way the P5 pushed that whole idea down everyone's throat.

They put the designation on themselves. The NCAA didn't give it to them. They didn't earn anything. They get more tv money so they are power? Iowa St is power? Kansas football is power? Wash St is power? Gimme a break.

If you just sit back and accept it fine. The AAC is gonna define itself.

The AAC will get more money from making the access bowl most years and a more lucrative TV deal which is coming. The other G4 conferences aren't close and will get further away.

What's that expression? If you want the moon start by asking for the stars...

Works for me.

(10-18-2016 08:59 PM)malenko2 Wrote:  Mcmurphy does not believe the AAC is going to get any additional money from ESPN or any other network in the future:

https://mobile.twitter.com/McMurphyESPN/...2964134917

He also says that the top half of the AAC and MWC together wouldn't be able to separate from the rest of the G5.

https://mobile.twitter.com/McMurphyESPN/...7661615105

He's probably right to a certain extent. With that said, it's a dumb thing to publish. The decision regarding TV net worth is way above his head.

Here's the thing, P5 games tend to pull around 5x the viewers of the AAC/MWC games if you try to compare apples to apples.

This means that P5 schools outside of the elite ones should be around 6-12m/year. ESPN is badly overpaying for product.

(10-18-2016 06:02 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  I still don't see why adding Army (to get the army/navy game and maybe some sort of deal with CBS) and adding some key MWC teams along with a couple bball onlies is a bad idea.

I think it would be awesome.

Add teams? Hell we need to kick some out. Connecticut because they play d1-aa football. Kick one of the U_F schools out (flip a coin). Two is just redundant. USF can stay if they give the pirate ship to ECU. Tulane you are on the clock because green and light blue are stupid and if we can beat you 10 years in a row you need to disband your program. Replace them with Southern Miss. Maybe kick out Tulsa because frick gazebos and add GA Southern.

(10-18-2016 05:06 PM)uhmump95 Wrote:  The real question is what will ESPN ask for in return for giving the AAC extra money. Let's face it, our numbers are better than the "G4" because of out teams. For more money for the AAC as it currently stands, they are going to want a grant of rights. How much is a grant of rights worth in our current configuration to ESPN and will that be enough for the members to sign it?

I would give them power to schedule OOC games against whoever they want. Having attractive opponents with teams they control TV rights of as well is a win win for them and them being able to pull those strings strokes their ego.


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(10-18-2016 09:40 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(10-18-2016 06:02 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  I still don't see why adding Army (to get the army/navy game and maybe some sort of deal with CBS) and adding some key MWC teams along with a couple bball onlies is a bad idea.

I think it would be awesome.

Add teams? Hell we need to kick some out. Connecticut because they play d1-aa football. Kick one of the U_F schools out (flip a coin). Two is just redundant. USF can stay if they give the pirate ship to ECU. Tulane you are on the clock because green and light blue are stupid and if we can beat you 10 years in a row you need to disband your program. Replace them with Southern Miss. Maybe kick out Tulsa because frick gazebos and add GA Southern.

It's cute how Memphis thinks they have weight to throw around. They're in the conference primarily to give Houston football and UConn/Cincy/Temple basketball a plausible enough opponent to beat up on. Tulane and Tulsa have to be here to balance out your clown-school academics.

(10-18-2016 09:31 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(10-18-2016 08:59 PM)malenko2 Wrote:  Mcmurphy does not believe the AAC is going to get any additional money from ESPN or any other network in the future:

https://mobile.twitter.com/McMurphyESPN/...2964134917

He also says that the top half of the AAC and MWC together wouldn't be able to separate from the rest of the G5.

https://mobile.twitter.com/McMurphyESPN/...7661615105

He's probably right to a certain extent. With that said, it's a dumb thing to publish. The decision regarding TV net worth is way above his head.

Here's the thing, P5 games tend to pull around 5x the viewers of the AAC/MWC games if you try to compare apples to apples.

This means that P5 schools outside of the elite ones should be around 6-12m/year. ESPN is badly overpaying for product.

And how can you compare games on espn news vs espn? Of course those get 10x the ratings.

(10-18-2016 09:22 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  to recap:

BCS revenue was distributed like this-
P5: 80% (16%+16%+16%+16%+16%)
Big East: 16%
G5: 4% (0.8%+0.8%+0.8%+0.8%+0.8%)

CFP revenue is distributed like this-
P5: 80% (16%+16%+16%+16%+16%)
G5: 20% (4%+4%+4%+4%+4%)

where is the AAC going to get the revenue from to be equal with the P5? From the P5? From the G5? From the Tooth Fairy? Because without equal revenue you're not really part of the P5.

The P5 destroyed their 6th competitor(BE) and spread its remains among the Little Sisters of the Poor while pretending they were being generous with the revenue increases (they weren't). It was all a power play. If you think they are going to undo all of that devious work to allow a 6th competitor to rise up you are living in a fantasy world.

its called lawsuits...it was less before and we didnt have auto bids either, till tulane went undefeated and got nothing and threatened lawsuit and the g5 bid was created

if we perform to some measurable standard, that can be used in court we get a bigger piece of the pie

also you're pretending like value stays the same. when the redistribution is done, the value of the cfb/ncaa will increase, like it has every redistribution..they will receive a smaller percentage but almost guaranteed more money

We need to get a deal with the Peach Bowl

(10-18-2016 09:05 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(10-18-2016 08:59 PM)malenko2 Wrote:  Mcmurphy does not believe the AAC is going to get any additional money from ESPN or any other network in the future:

https://mobile.twitter.com/McMurphyESPN/...2964134917

He also says that the top half of the AAC and MWC together wouldn't be able to separate from the rest of the G5.

https://mobile.twitter.com/McMurphyESPN/...7661615105

There's a surprise.

McMurphy knows about as much about programming television as he knows about women.

Edit: What was his answer about UConn's tier 3 rights? lol. That must have been good.

He is a weird dude. He's got that creepy look that you warn your kids about.

I love "narratives." They always become true to those that choose to believe them. Its all politics.

(10-18-2016 10:10 PM)fanhood Wrote:  I love "narratives." They always become true to those that choose to believe them. Its all politics.

says an indoctrinated sdsu fans wo believes the MWC is better than the aac..and pretends like the national media doesnt view us a dramatically better league ...

you have no room to talk on this issue

(10-18-2016 10:17 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(10-18-2016 10:10 PM)fanhood Wrote:  I love "narratives." They always become true to those that choose to believe them. Its all politics.

says an indoctrinated sdsu fans wo believes the MWC is better than the aac..and pretends like the national media doesnt view us a dramatically better league ...

you have no room to talk on this issue

I was alluding to Republicans and Democrats, Trump vs Hillary, without outright saying it because I don't care to have that conversation.

Nonetheless, its all the same. People believe the narratives they want to believe. The mere fact that the words "narrative" is being used to describe the "Power 6" push proves my point. If a "narrative" is needed, then you have to question the veracity of the statements being made. If it was fact, a narrative would not be necessary. It is all politics, and public relations. Make sense? It should.

(10-18-2016 07:32 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  The Power Conference moniker comes from those with contracts with the Access Bowls. Without one of those it wont become a P6. Also the TV networks have no incentive to give the AAC more money right now.

The AAC is better served waiting until their contract is almost up and try and get Fox involved in the negotiations. ESPN will not just give you guys a substantial bump for no reason. You need to hope Fox decides you're worth more money.

GO! AWAY!!

(10-18-2016 07:32 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Those that want basketball only should really just shoot yourself... there was a conference that tried it and it really really sucked.

You're really wasting your time with them. I've been telling them that for a year+ and they still go back to banging the "add Wichita St." drum.

(10-18-2016 10:17 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(10-18-2016 10:10 PM)fanhood Wrote:  I love "narratives." They always become true to those that choose to believe them. Its all politics.

says an indoctrinated sdsu fans wo believes the MWC is better than the aac..and pretends like the national media doesnt view us a dramatically better league ...

you have no room to talk on this issue

I never even have come close to making this statement or alluding to such. This proves my point about narratives. You have created your very own. Congrats young lad.

(10-18-2016 10:22 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(10-18-2016 10:17 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(10-18-2016 10:10 PM)fanhood Wrote:  I love "narratives." They always become true to those that choose to believe them. Its all politics.

says an indoctrinated sdsu fans wo believes the MWC is better than the aac..and pretends like the national media doesnt view us a dramatically better league ...

you have no room to talk on this issue

I never even have come close to making this statement or alluding to such. This proves my point about narratives. You have created your very own. Congrats young lad.

yes you have numerous times, not this specific season, but in general... you have constantly refuted that we have established our-self as the better conference...
have stated the the AAC losing any team, even 1 would make the mwc far and away better

you have alluded numeros times that te mwc is a better conference andwe are just having a good year