(09-22-2016 12:09 AM)3601 Wrote:  Anecdotal story. My wife graduated from Vandy with a 3.60 gpa. I graduated from Memphis State with a 2.90 gpa. We were in the same law school class at Memphis and I finished higher than she did.

I love that! I don't really have a dog in this fight, but I don't like to see one of my schools trashed on inaccurate information.

I used to hear also that Memphis prepared its law school graduates more for the real world of lawyering by great internships. But it's like comparing apples and oranges. The graphics I just looked at show that a large percentage of Vandy's law school graduates take jobs in NYC and D.C. and all over the country, possibly back in their home states, while many Memphis graduates stay in this region.

My dad practiced law here 65 years after graduating from the seminal Normal School at Memphis (U of M), and then UT night school here. My grandfather "read law" here and started practice here in 1914. I graduated from Vandy and spent a summer at Memphis State. Both good experiences. BTW, Vandy now offers a complete free ride for anyone who can get in, so money is not a part of the "perceived" snobbery.

(09-22-2016 09:02 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(09-21-2016 10:22 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  

(09-21-2016 10:17 PM)tigertom Wrote:  Vaaahhhhhhhderbilt has their own agenda and they are "Too good" in their opinion to mess with the likes of this little start up in SW TN.

Too bad their law school grads can't pass the TN bar as well and quickly as U of M grads do. The U of M grads also get jobs quicker than they do at Vaaaaahhhhhnderbilt.

Can you say "Snobs".

Whatever makes you feel better

Vandy grad alert !!!

I took the bait. I'm bad like that.

(09-22-2016 10:42 AM)tigerex Wrote:  

(09-21-2016 10:17 PM)tigertom Wrote:  Vaaahhhhhhhderbilt has their own agenda and they are "Too good" in their opinion to mess with the likes of this little start up in SW TN.

Too bad their law school grads can't pass the TN bar as well and quickly as U of M grads do. The U of M grads also get jobs quicker than they do at Vaaaaahhhhhnderbilt.

Can you say "Snobs".

I was 1988 when Watson Brown was there. Rained straight down from 2nd qtr till into late 3rd qtr. I walked in between the barns with some of the Vandy crowd. Was 100% chance of Noah's ark and they are walking in with Armani, Gucci, stilettos and the like without even an umbrella. I have on a flannel shirt and rubber muck boots with my blue jeans tucked in so they wouldn't get wet and a green poncho in tow. They snickered and laughed as I walked by.

It rained so hard you could not see Watson on the other sideline from the Memphis side. I must admit that I laughed as the rats dressed in their Armani and Gucci abandoned ship. Was a great day to be a Tiger. Watson was gone soon after.

I was at Vandy when Watson was the quarterback. He left the last football game in a helicopter to see his sister get married. That was pretty impressive. I remember he also broke his leg one year.

(09-22-2016 02:53 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 02:00 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  3 hours from Memphis to Nashville. Same number of fans from Vandy would likely attend a Memphis vs Vandy game in Memphis in a much nicer venue against a school in the AAC vs WKU/CUSA. 40K+ at Memphis vs 18-20K at Bowling Green. And BTW, the Vandy at WKU this week is the first ever SEC opponent at WKU.

BG is closer to Nashville than Jonesboro is to Memphis.

And it's not like Vandy would bring 15K to the Liberty Bowl, especially if they aren't good and we are having a good season.

I'd love to play Vandy regularly, but I can't see why they'd want to do it.

Beale Street. Music Row gets boring.

(09-22-2016 02:59 PM)HobosHeroesStCornerClowns Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 12:24 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 10:10 AM)HobosHeroesStCornerClowns Wrote:  They never forgave us for sending them Fred Pancoast

Didn't Fred do well there ?

1975 7-4 (2-4 Sixth)
1976 2-9 (0-6 Tenth)
1977 2-9 (0-6 Tenth)
1978 2-9 (0-6 Tenth)

I guess that's doing well as far as Vandy football is concerned

I was about to say. Nobody does very well at Vandy.

(09-22-2016 03:38 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 03:22 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 03:12 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Let's don't schedule them in BB. Their court is a lawsuit waiting to happen.

That court is weird. Playing on that court is completely disorienting with the raised floor but there is much more perimeter room off the court than it appears. Safety is no issue but a very big home court advantage given it's dynamics. Nonetheless, I'd love to play Vandy every year home & home in BB. It would become a real rivalry game over time. And add FB too, much better than UT-Martin, SEMO, MoSt, AP etc. Agree Vandy has no motivation to play us except they already have their ticket punched, so why not?

I dunno. I've seen our guys fly over the first row and land in the stands.
Vandy's court might not support a serious flyer

In that arena, DJ could have launched to about the tenth row. We all saw him jump over another player from head to foot, and we saw him start to fly so he wouldn't land on a child when he ran out of bounds one time.

(09-22-2016 05:01 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 01:17 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 01:13 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Cheap trip to Bowling Green. They've really have a nice looking campus

Cheap trip that their fans can easily attend and Vandy gets credit for a road game.

Vandy doesn't have any fans. Especially ones that travel, even if it's to Murfreesboro.

And the reason Vandy does not have as many fans is because 90% of the students are from all over the country, so their parents don't live in Tennessee, and when they graduate, 90% of them leave Tennessee. Not many local alums.

(09-22-2016 05:35 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 03:38 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 03:22 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 03:12 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Let's don't schedule them in BB. Their court is a lawsuit waiting to happen.

That court is weird. Playing on that court is completely disorienting with the raised floor but there is much more perimeter room off the court than it appears. Safety is no issue but a very big home court advantage given it's dynamics. Nonetheless, I'd love to play Vandy every year home & home in BB. It would become a real rivalry game over time. And add FB too, much better than UT-Martin, SEMO, MoSt, AP etc. Agree Vandy has no motivation to play us except they already have their ticket punched, so why not?

I dunno. I've seen our guys fly over the first row and land in the stands.
Vandy's court might not support a serious flyer

In that arena, DJ could have launched to about the tenth row. We all saw him jump over another player from head to foot, and we saw him start to fly so he wouldn't land on a child when he ran out of bounds one time.

At Vandy, unlike FedEx Forum & most arenas, the court boundary is 20ft or more from the edge of the floor surface while FedEx Forum is about 5 ft. from the 1st row of seats. That difference would keep even DJ on the floor at Vandy.

(09-22-2016 06:12 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 05:35 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 03:38 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 03:22 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 03:12 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Let's don't schedule them in BB. Their court is a lawsuit waiting to happen.

That court is weird. Playing on that court is completely disorienting with the raised floor but there is much more perimeter room off the court than it appears. Safety is no issue but a very big home court advantage given it's dynamics. Nonetheless, I'd love to play Vandy every year home & home in BB. It would become a real rivalry game over time. And add FB too, much better than UT-Martin, SEMO, MoSt, AP etc. Agree Vandy has no motivation to play us except they already have their ticket punched, so why not?

I dunno. I've seen our guys fly over the first row and land in the stands.
Vandy's court might not support a serious flyer

In that arena, DJ could have launched to about the tenth row. We all saw him jump over another player from head to foot, and we saw him start to fly so he wouldn't land on a child when he ran out of bounds one time.

At Vandy, unlike FedEx Forum & most arenas, the court boundary is 20ft or more from the edge of the floor surface while FedEx Forum is about 5 ft. from the 1st row of seats. That difference would keep even DJ on the floor at Vandy.

IIRC the team benches are on the baselines as opposed to the sidelines

Correct.

Memorial Gym is a fascinating piece of architecture in general.

(09-21-2016 10:17 PM)tigertom Wrote:  Too bad their law school grads can't pass the TN bar as well and quickly as U of M grads do. The U of M grads also get jobs quicker than they do at Vaaaaahhhhhnderbilt.

*sigh*

(09-22-2016 04:15 PM)HobosHeroesStCornerClowns Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 03:43 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 02:53 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 02:00 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  3 hours from Memphis to Nashville. Same number of fans from Vandy would likely attend a Memphis vs Vandy game in Memphis in a much nicer venue against a school in the AAC vs WKU/CUSA. 40K+ at Memphis vs 18-20K at Bowling Green. And BTW, the Vandy at WKU this week is the first ever SEC opponent at WKU.

BG is closer to Nashville than Jonesboro is to Memphis.

And it's not like Vandy would bring 15K to the Liberty Bowl, especially if they aren't good and we are having a good season.

I'd love to play Vandy regularly, but I can't see why they'd want to do it.

Nashville to Bowling Green is 450 miles or nearly seven hours.

I think you have your states mixed up.

They are talking about Bowling Green, KY, home of the Corvette Museum and Western KY not Bowling Green U in Ohio

Sure as hell don't need to be playing road games at WKU after all the Sun Belt or whatever road games our amazing AD has scheduled.

(09-22-2016 10:22 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 04:15 PM)HobosHeroesStCornerClowns Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 03:43 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 02:53 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 02:00 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  3 hours from Memphis to Nashville. Same number of fans from Vandy would likely attend a Memphis vs Vandy game in Memphis in a much nicer venue against a school in the AAC vs WKU/CUSA. 40K+ at Memphis vs 18-20K at Bowling Green. And BTW, the Vandy at WKU this week is the first ever SEC opponent at WKU.

BG is closer to Nashville than Jonesboro is to Memphis.

And it's not like Vandy would bring 15K to the Liberty Bowl, especially if they aren't good and we are having a good season.

I'd love to play Vandy regularly, but I can't see why they'd want to do it.

Nashville to Bowling Green is 450 miles or nearly seven hours.

I think you have your states mixed up.

They are talking about Bowling Green, KY, home of the Corvette Museum and Western KY not Bowling Green U in Ohio

Sure as hell don't need to be playing road games at WKU after all the Sun Belt or whatever road games our amazing AD has scheduled.

Nothing in this thread about Memphis playing WKU........

Dont' kid yourselves - every G5 and half the P5 schools in the country would love to get Vandy on the schedule. It's the SEC school everyone has a legit shot to beat, they offer up a sizeable payout to schools who play there, they provide some free publicity for the school in one of the larger, more educated cities in the south, and it's a way to associate with an impressive academic school. Memphis would have stiff competition to get the 'dores.
If Memphis and Vandy haven't played in so long it's probably because Vandy is fighting off schools who want to schedule them. I root for them because my parents went there and they always try to schedule the schools who have the same issues they do - upper-tier academics trying to compete in big time sports: Wake Forest, Georgia Tech, TCU, Northwestern, Duke, etc. And frankly, from Vanderbilt's perspective, that's who they should be playing.

Frankly, though, whoever schedule Memphis's recent non-con schedule has done a decent job, and just so happened to do it at the opportune time. An FCS team at home to warm up with, then the worst P5 school in the land coming to the Liberty Bowl, then a reasonable MAC team, and then a trip to Ole Miss? Three home games out of four, and a local heavy for a reach game = Solid scheduling by the Tigers.

EDIT: Actually, looking at the entire schedule now it looks even better. Memphis may have one of the best G5 schedules in the country, altogether. USF could be ranked when the come to Memphis and Houston could be undefeated. If the Tigers can somehow get past BG and win at Ole Miss they are set up for success the rest of the year, even with a potential loss or two.

(09-22-2016 05:39 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 05:01 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 01:17 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 01:13 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Cheap trip to Bowling Green. They've really have a nice looking campus

Cheap trip that their fans can easily attend and Vandy gets credit for a road game.

Vandy doesn't have any fans. Especially ones that travel, even if it's to Murfreesboro.

And the reason Vandy does not have as many fans is because 90% of the students are from all over the country, so their parents don't live in Tennessee, and when they graduate, 90% of them leave Tennessee. Not many local alums.

Yep, most are from overseas or the Northeast.

(09-22-2016 12:05 AM)3601 Wrote:  

(09-21-2016 11:57 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  

(09-21-2016 10:17 PM)tigertom Wrote:  Vaaahhhhhhhderbilt has their own agenda and they are "Too good" in their opinion to mess with the likes of this little start up in SW TN.

Too bad their law school grads can't pass the TN bar as well and quickly as U of M grads do. The U of M grads also get jobs quicker than they do at Vaaaaahhhhhnderbilt.

Can you say "Snobs".

I cannot find the numbers to back up these boasts. I know the U of M says this about their graduation rates.

93 percent of Vandy grads are employed nine months after graduation, and 5 percent go on to further graduate school. That is 98%.

Memphis' grads are employed at 98%.

Vandy and Memphis law students in 2015 both passed the bar at the rate of about 72 percent, while UT's law students passed the bar at 83%.

Vandy is very diverse and not necessarily snobby. That is a label thrown at a school by someone who knows little about it and may feel "less than" for invalid reasons. Vandy attracts students from across the nation and is very selective, and many of those students leave Tennessee after graduation to practice law in other states.

Vandy Tiger

I graduated from law school in 1998. Back then our "claim to fame" was having a higher bar pass rate than UT and Vandy for many years running. Obviously that was a long time ago.

Like most rates, they can change with the wind.

(09-22-2016 10:21 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 09:32 AM)fsquid Wrote:  I don't think they've played us in the football since we beat them in Stobart's first year.

Wasn't that where the phrase "Thank God for Vandy" came from? Seems like we only won one game that year, and it was against bandy.

Vandy just doesn't have the drive to succeed in football. It's obvious with a fight song that goes, "down the field with blood to yield".

(09-22-2016 08:31 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  You would think if Vandy plays UH, they'd play Memphis - and Vandy beat UH in a 2014 bowl game BTW. Vandy lost to UH last year in a regular season game. I know this isn't popular around here to say so but I'd like Memphis to play UTK, Vandy & UK every year in FB & BB (would have been great timing to have played UTK over the last 2 yrs). We might take our lumps with UTK in FB most times but it would be worth the gate & interest - and Memphis will be competitive & win some too. I see us having the upper hand against UK in FB & BB would have an extreme interest in Memphis. We'd have the upper hand most years in FB & BB against Vandy. These would all be games that all would draw 40K+ to sellouts in FB & sellout in BB. And it would be good for recruiting, giving us added credibility in the greater mid-south.

Like it or not, Memphis folks will come out to see Memphis play regional P5 schools compared to FCS & Kansas. And we need butts in the seats & the credibility wins among this group would give us.

Very true. Memphis should have a lot better FB schedule . V tech and Arz st inroads with coaches should help. Would like to see Arky ,Vandy , Kty down the road. Not being in the P5 , it is a must to schedule better . And LB needs to drop Big 12 like it's hot.

(09-23-2016 09:48 AM)tigerblu Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 08:31 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  You would think if Vandy plays UH, they'd play Memphis - and Vandy beat UH in a 2014 bowl game BTW. Vandy lost to UH last year in a regular season game. I know this isn't popular around here to say so but I'd like Memphis to play UTK, Vandy & UK every year in FB & BB (would have been great timing to have played UTK over the last 2 yrs). We might take our lumps with UTK in FB most times but it would be worth the gate & interest - and Memphis will be competitive & win some too. I see us having the upper hand against UK in FB & BB would have an extreme interest in Memphis. We'd have the upper hand most years in FB & BB against Vandy. These would all be games that all would draw 40K+ to sellouts in FB & sellout in BB. And it would be good for recruiting, giving us added credibility in the greater mid-south.

Like it or not, Memphis folks will come out to see Memphis play regional P5 schools compared to FCS & Kansas. And we need butts in the seats & the credibility wins among this group would give us.

Very true. Memphis should have a lot better FB schedule . V tech and Arz st inroads with coaches should help. Would like to see Arky ,Vandy , Kty down the road. Not being in the P5 , it is a must to schedule better . And LB needs to drop Big 12 like it's hot.

I don't EVER want to see Arky

I get enough of those neck fans on a daily basis already

I remember a long time ago the Tigers were playing Vandy in football one afternoon at Vandy. They were really bad and there were very few Vandy fans at the game.

Late in the game, Vandy got the lead and Jack Eaton said the dorms were emptying and students were coming to the game to take part in a victory.