..... wait for the poll .......

I didn't include the Constitution Party or Write-In or Staying Home or Undecided because there simply wasn't any room. So if that applies you, reply saying if you're in a swing state or not and if you'll be voting or leaning towards that choice.

I don't think that anybody in this forum has changed their mind from the last poll (nor will they between here and Election Day), and Trump will win this poll in a landslide.

(09-20-2016 06:55 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  I don't think that anybody in this forum has changed their mind from the last poll (nor will they between here and Election Day), and Trump will win this poll in a landslide.

I have. Took the red pill.

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Sorry for the ignorant question: has Virginia moved back into the "swing state" category?

I personally think it is solidly blue, but my wife keeps insisting that it will be close. Is she right?

Gonna be a yuge victory night.

(09-20-2016 08:25 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  Sorry for the ignorant question: has Virginia moved back into the "swing state" category?

I personally think it is solidly blue, but my wife keeps insisting that it will be close. Is she right?

Swing states: NV, IA, PA, VA, NC, OH, FL, CO, MI, WI, NH

(09-20-2016 08:30 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(09-20-2016 08:25 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  Sorry for the ignorant question: has Virginia moved back into the "swing state" category?

I personally think it is solidly blue, but my wife keeps insisting that it will be close. Is she right?

Swing states: NV, IA, PA, VA, NC, OH, FL, CO, MI, WI, NH

Lastest polls show NM and Maine as swing states too

(09-20-2016 08:30 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Swing states: NV, IA, PA, VA, NC, OH, FL, CO, MI, WI, NH

MI, PA & WI, not swing states.

(09-20-2016 08:25 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  Sorry for the ignorant question: has Virginia moved back into the "swing state" category?

I personally think it is solidly blue, but my wife keeps insisting that it will be close. Is she right?

By the way ... drove up to Baltimore a few months ago. My first time north of North Carolina on the east coast. The South ends at Richmond. From there on up it looks more like a big sprawling Mid-Atlantic/Northeast metro suburbia. What got me most wasn't the huge seemingly endless sprawl of enormous government buildings ... it was the even bigger endless sprawl of the corporations that suck up to and feed off it. Lithicum, MD seems to be little more than Northrop Grumman's playground, sprinkled heavily with CIA/NSA installations for good measure, for example. Also, the toll lanes on I-95 are particularly annoying. You wanna create an expressway that's toll? Fine. Keep that **** off the interstates. That goes for you too, 8th Borough of Miami. I've *NEVER* seen so many police cars running speeding traps either. Even when they run Operation Rolling Thunder in the Upstate and bring dozens of agencies in for super aggressive traffic and drug interdiction enforcement ... it's not as bad as NoVA. And a felony for doing 20 over? I might actually lose my **** if that ever happened to me. Thankfully I gave zero f***s about their radar detector ban, and could see them all coming a mile away (literally) with my Valentine V-1. So yeah ... NoVA is right up there with the biggest bipolar states I've ever seen. NoVA has very little in common with the rest of Virginia in much the same way that everything ~20 miles south of I-4 has very little in common with the rest of Florida.

(09-20-2016 08:44 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  MI, PA & WI, not swing states.

The current polling margin in all three is lower than the polling margin in OH and IA.

(09-20-2016 08:44 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(09-20-2016 08:30 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(09-20-2016 08:25 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  Sorry for the ignorant question: has Virginia moved back into the "swing state" category?

I personally think it is solidly blue, but my wife keeps insisting that it will be close. Is she right?

Swing states: NV, IA, PA, VA, NC, OH, FL, CO, MI, WI, NH

MI, PA & WI, not swing states.

I think PA is in play. The highest lead Clinton has had in any five thirty eight approved PA poll is 8 points.

Quinnipiac had it at 5 points before Clinton's no good very bad weekend.

(09-20-2016 08:45 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(09-20-2016 08:25 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  Sorry for the ignorant question: has Virginia moved back into the "swing state" category?

I personally think it is solidly blue, but my wife keeps insisting that it will be close. Is she right?

By the way ... drove up to Baltimore a few months ago. My first time north of North Carolina on the east coast. The South ends at Richmond. From there on up it looks more like a big sprawling Mid-Atlantic/Northeast metro suburbia. What got me most wasn't the huge seemingly endless sprawl of enormous government buildings ... it was the even bigger endless sprawl of the corporations that suck up to and feed off it. Lithicum, MD seems to be little more than Northrop Grumman's playground, sprinkled heavily with CIA/NSA installations for good measure, for example. Also, the toll lanes on I-95 are particularly annoying. You wanna create an expressway that's toll? Fine. Keep that **** off the interstates. That goes for you too, 8th Borough of Miami. I've *NEVER* seen so many police cars running speeding traps either. Even when they run Operation Rolling Thunder in the Upstate and bring dozens of agencies in for super aggressive traffic and drug interdiction enforcement ... it's not as bad as NoVA. And a felony for doing 20 over? I might actually lose my **** if that ever happened to me. Thankfully I gave zero f***s about their radar detector ban, and could see them all coming a mile away (literally) with my Valentine V-1. So yeah ... NoVA is right up there with the biggest bipolar states I've ever seen. NoVA has very little in common with the rest of Virginia in much the same way that everything ~20 miles south of I-4 has very little in common with the rest of Florida.

Wife has family in upstate NY. Love the I86 route instead.

Once you get past Richmond on I95 its just awful. And those tolls are a scam.

(09-20-2016 08:54 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(09-20-2016 08:44 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(09-20-2016 08:30 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(09-20-2016 08:25 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  Sorry for the ignorant question: has Virginia moved back into the "swing state" category?

I personally think it is solidly blue, but my wife keeps insisting that it will be close. Is she right?

Swing states: NV, IA, PA, VA, NC, OH, FL, CO, MI, WI, NH

MI, PA & WI, not swing states.

I think PA is in play. The highest lead Clinton has had in any five thirty eight approved PA poll is 8 points.

Quinnipiac had it at 5 points before Clinton's no good very bad weekend.

PA is fools gold for republicans. Demoncrats always rig the polls in Philly.

I'm in Virginia and I'm still looking for someone not wearing a clown suit for whom I can vote.

I'm in a red state (no matter how much the Dems want to call Georgia swing) and am leaning write-in.

If she is the candidate vs Trump I'll stomach it and vote for her. I still hope she drops for Bernie to step in, or Biden. But alas.... anything but Trump at this point.

(09-20-2016 09:04 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(09-20-2016 08:54 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(09-20-2016 08:44 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(09-20-2016 08:30 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(09-20-2016 08:25 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  Sorry for the ignorant question: has Virginia moved back into the "swing state" category?

I personally think it is solidly blue, but my wife keeps insisting that it will be close. Is she right?

Swing states: NV, IA, PA, VA, NC, OH, FL, CO, MI, WI, NH

MI, PA & WI, not swing states.

I think PA is in play. The highest lead Clinton has had in any five thirty eight approved PA poll is 8 points.

Quinnipiac had it at 5 points before Clinton's no good very bad weekend.

PA is fools gold for republicans. Demoncrats always rig the polls in Philly.

From Dave Wasserman of the Cook Political Report

In '12, Obama won PA by 310k votes. Eligible Latinos who didn't vote: 191k. Eligible non-college whites who didn't vote? 2.6 million.

(09-20-2016 08:45 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(09-20-2016 08:25 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  Sorry for the ignorant question: has Virginia moved back into the "swing state" category?

I personally think it is solidly blue, but my wife keeps insisting that it will be close. Is she right?

By the way ... drove up to Baltimore a few months ago. My first time north of North Carolina on the east coast. The South ends at Richmond. From there on up it looks more like a big sprawling Mid-Atlantic/Northeast metro suburbia. What got me most wasn't the huge seemingly endless sprawl of enormous government buildings ... it was the even bigger endless sprawl of the corporations that suck up to and feed off it. Lithicum, MD seems to be little more than Northrop Grumman's playground, sprinkled heavily with CIA/NSA installations for good measure, for example. Also, the toll lanes on I-95 are particularly annoying. You wanna create an expressway that's toll? Fine. Keep that **** off the interstates. That goes for you too, 8th Borough of Miami. I've *NEVER* seen so many police cars running speeding traps either. Even when they run Operation Rolling Thunder in the Upstate and bring dozens of agencies in for super aggressive traffic and drug interdiction enforcement ... it's not as bad as NoVA. And a felony for doing 20 over? I might actually lose my **** if that ever happened to me. Thankfully I gave zero f***s about their radar detector ban, and could see them all coming a mile away (literally) with my Valentine V-1. So yeah ... NoVA is right up there with the biggest bipolar states I've ever seen. NoVA has very little in common with the rest of Virginia in much the same way that everything ~20 miles south of I-4 has very little in common with the rest of Florida.

Your observations on the Virginia divide are dead on accurate.

And it is why I am convinced that Virginia should not be considered a swing state. About 2/3 of our state economy is dependent on the federal dole. This Commonwealth is pretty much bought and paid for by our betters in D.C.

(09-20-2016 08:58 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(09-20-2016 08:45 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(09-20-2016 08:25 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  Sorry for the ignorant question: has Virginia moved back into the "swing state" category?

I personally think it is solidly blue, but my wife keeps insisting that it will be close. Is she right?

By the way ... drove up to Baltimore a few months ago. My first time north of North Carolina on the east coast. The South ends at Richmond. From there on up it looks more like a big sprawling Mid-Atlantic/Northeast metro suburbia. What got me most wasn't the huge seemingly endless sprawl of enormous government buildings ... it was the even bigger endless sprawl of the corporations that suck up to and feed off it. Lithicum, MD seems to be little more than Northrop Grumman's playground, sprinkled heavily with CIA/NSA installations for good measure, for example. Also, the toll lanes on I-95 are particularly annoying. You wanna create an expressway that's toll? Fine. Keep that **** off the interstates. That goes for you too, 8th Borough of Miami. I've *NEVER* seen so many police cars running speeding traps either. Even when they run Operation Rolling Thunder in the Upstate and bring dozens of agencies in for super aggressive traffic and drug interdiction enforcement ... it's not as bad as NoVA. And a felony for doing 20 over? I might actually lose my **** if that ever happened to me. Thankfully I gave zero f***s about their radar detector ban, and could see them all coming a mile away (literally) with my Valentine V-1. So yeah ... NoVA is right up there with the biggest bipolar states I've ever seen. NoVA has very little in common with the rest of Virginia in much the same way that everything ~20 miles south of I-4 has very little in common with the rest of Florida.

Wife has family in upstate NY. Love the I86 route instead.

Once you get past Richmond on I95 its just awful. And those tolls are a scam.

Best travel route for the NE is to avoid 95 as much as possible. I used to drive to Southern NJ, NYC, Long Island, CT, and MA for work quite a bit. Always jumped off 95 no further north than DC.

DC - Annapolis, Eastern Shore of MD, cut across DE, 295 through NJ, then out on the island or 287 around the backside of NYC, 87 up to 84 and on up to MA.

It's virtually the same time from DC to the bottom of NJ and that route completely avoids Baltimore and the DE tolls - just one toll on the Lane Bridge. 295 in Jersey is in roughly the same shape as the turnpike but without the tolls. 287 around NYC adds 45 miles, but is actually much faster than the GW and cross-Bronx. 87-84 adds miles going to Boston, but completely avoids the disaster that is the first 60 miles of CT.


My best time from the NYC side of the Lincoln Tunnel to Greenville NC was 7 hours 5 minutes.