If Houston runs the table, would they even be considered for the playoff? Houston has a P5 caliber team. Last year they beat Louisville, dominated Vanderbilt, and convincingly beat FSU in their bowl game. Somehow, they slipped up against UConn. They just had an impressive win over Oklahoma and play Louisville again this year. Time will tell, but I suspect it will depend upon how Louisville and Oklahoma both do this year, as well as the other conference champs vying for a spot. If Oklahoma tanks, then Houston will probably just go back to a NY6 Bowl again. But what if Oklahoma goes perfect in Big12 play and wins their conference. Maybe Louisville has a really good season too. This will test the bias of the Playoff committee. It will be interesting if it comes to this and if a deserving G5 can not make it into the playoffs, then we might as well truly be in separate divisions.

Houston will need Oklahoma to win the Big 12 at a minimum I think.

You have to keep in mind that they will need to jump two Power 5 conference champions in order to do it. It's not impossible, but I think they will get in if it is clear they were one of the top 4 teams. At one time people thought there was no way that two teams from the same conference would play for the national championship game, but it happened in 2011 because Alabama and LSU proved to be the best teams in the country.

What I'd like to know is...if Houston does go to the CFP, how does the Access Bowl selection work?

(09-06-2016 02:24 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Houston will need Oklahoma to win the Big 12 at a minimum I think.

You have to keep in mind that they will need to jump two Power 5 conference champions in order to do it. It's not impossible, but I think they will get in if it is clear they were one of the top 4 teams. At one time people thought there was no way that two teams from the same conference would play for the national championship game, but it happened in 2011 because Alabama and LSU proved to be the best teams in the country.

What I'd like to know is...if Houston does go to the CFP, how does the Access Bowl selection work?

If Houston goes to the playoffs, I think that is a G5 accessing the top tier, so there won't be another G5 team playing in a NY6 Bowl game.

(09-06-2016 02:37 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  

(09-06-2016 02:24 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Houston will need Oklahoma to win the Big 12 at a minimum I think.

You have to keep in mind that they will need to jump two Power 5 conference champions in order to do it. It's not impossible, but I think they will get in if it is clear they were one of the top 4 teams. At one time people thought there was no way that two teams from the same conference would play for the national championship game, but it happened in 2011 because Alabama and LSU proved to be the best teams in the country.

What I'd like to know is...if Houston does go to the CFP, how does the Access Bowl selection work?

If Houston goes to the playoffs, I think that is a G5 accessing the top tier, so there won't be another G5 team playing in a NY6 Bowl game.

Correct. If Houston is in the CFP, there will be no guaranteed Access Bowl participant, which likely means no G5 in a NY6 Bowl.

(09-06-2016 02:37 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  

(09-06-2016 02:24 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Houston will need Oklahoma to win the Big 12 at a minimum I think.

You have to keep in mind that they will need to jump two Power 5 conference champions in order to do it. It's not impossible, but I think they will get in if it is clear they were one of the top 4 teams. At one time people thought there was no way that two teams from the same conference would play for the national championship game, but it happened in 2011 because Alabama and LSU proved to be the best teams in the country.

What I'd like to know is...if Houston does go to the CFP, how does the Access Bowl selection work?

If Houston goes to the playoffs, I think that is a G5 accessing the top tier, so there won't be another G5 team playing in a NY6 Bowl game.

I don't think that's how it works. The Access bowl is already chosen to be the Cotton bowl this year and the two semifinal bowls are the Peach Bowl and the Fiesta Bowl. Meaning if Houston was in the semifinals they would be in one of the semifinal bowls leaving the access bowl spots to the next highest G5 right?

(09-06-2016 02:53 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(09-06-2016 02:37 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  

(09-06-2016 02:24 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Houston will need Oklahoma to win the Big 12 at a minimum I think.

You have to keep in mind that they will need to jump two Power 5 conference champions in order to do it. It's not impossible, but I think they will get in if it is clear they were one of the top 4 teams. At one time people thought there was no way that two teams from the same conference would play for the national championship game, but it happened in 2011 because Alabama and LSU proved to be the best teams in the country.

What I'd like to know is...if Houston does go to the CFP, how does the Access Bowl selection work?

If Houston goes to the playoffs, I think that is a G5 accessing the top tier, so there won't be another G5 team playing in a NY6 Bowl game.

I don't think that's how it works. The Access bowl is already chosen to be the Cotton bowl this year and the two semifinal bowls are the Peach Bowl and the Fiesta Bowl. Meaning if Houston was in the semifinals they would be in one of the semifinal bowls leaving the access bowl spots to the next highest G5 right?

Nope.

https://twitter.com/McMurphyESPN/status/...5558276096

(09-06-2016 03:04 PM)asucrutch23 Wrote:  

(09-06-2016 02:53 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(09-06-2016 02:37 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  

(09-06-2016 02:24 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Houston will need Oklahoma to win the Big 12 at a minimum I think.

You have to keep in mind that they will need to jump two Power 5 conference champions in order to do it. It's not impossible, but I think they will get in if it is clear they were one of the top 4 teams. At one time people thought there was no way that two teams from the same conference would play for the national championship game, but it happened in 2011 because Alabama and LSU proved to be the best teams in the country.

What I'd like to know is...if Houston does go to the CFP, how does the Access Bowl selection work?

If Houston goes to the playoffs, I think that is a G5 accessing the top tier, so there won't be another G5 team playing in a NY6 Bowl game.

I don't think that's how it works. The Access bowl is already chosen to be the Cotton bowl this year and the two semifinal bowls are the Peach Bowl and the Fiesta Bowl. Meaning if Houston was in the semifinals they would be in one of the semifinal bowls leaving the access bowl spots to the next highest G5 right?

Nope.

https://twitter.com/McMurphyESPN/status/...5558276096

Not guaranteed, but if it's the right team I'd say they do.
(Will they bring fans and will people watch?)

(09-06-2016 03:17 PM)polkhigh Wrote:  

(09-06-2016 03:04 PM)asucrutch23 Wrote:  

(09-06-2016 02:53 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(09-06-2016 02:37 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  

(09-06-2016 02:24 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Houston will need Oklahoma to win the Big 12 at a minimum I think.

You have to keep in mind that they will need to jump two Power 5 conference champions in order to do it. It's not impossible, but I think they will get in if it is clear they were one of the top 4 teams. At one time people thought there was no way that two teams from the same conference would play for the national championship game, but it happened in 2011 because Alabama and LSU proved to be the best teams in the country.

What I'd like to know is...if Houston does go to the CFP, how does the Access Bowl selection work?

If Houston goes to the playoffs, I think that is a G5 accessing the top tier, so there won't be another G5 team playing in a NY6 Bowl game.

I don't think that's how it works. The Access bowl is already chosen to be the Cotton bowl this year and the two semifinal bowls are the Peach Bowl and the Fiesta Bowl. Meaning if Houston was in the semifinals they would be in one of the semifinal bowls leaving the access bowl spots to the next highest G5 right?

Nope.

https://twitter.com/McMurphyESPN/status/...5558276096

Not guaranteed, but if it's the right team I'd say they do.
(Will they bring fans and will people watch?)

You'd see P5 influence first. They'd just use it as an excuse to put another SEC team in a NY6 bowl.

(09-06-2016 03:20 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(09-06-2016 03:17 PM)polkhigh Wrote:  

(09-06-2016 03:04 PM)asucrutch23 Wrote:  

(09-06-2016 02:53 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(09-06-2016 02:37 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  If Houston goes to the playoffs, I think that is a G5 accessing the top tier, so there won't be another G5 team playing in a NY6 Bowl game.

I don't think that's how it works. The Access bowl is already chosen to be the Cotton bowl this year and the two semifinal bowls are the Peach Bowl and the Fiesta Bowl. Meaning if Houston was in the semifinals they would be in one of the semifinal bowls leaving the access bowl spots to the next highest G5 right?

Nope.

https://twitter.com/McMurphyESPN/status/...5558276096

Not guaranteed, but if it's the right team I'd say they do.
(Will they bring fans and will people watch?)

You'd see P5 influence first. They'd just use it as an excuse to put another SEC team in a NY6 bowl.

This will probably be the year only ("only") two SEC teams make the NY6.

Two are virtually guaranteed: (1) the SEC champion (in all likelihood, Alabama) will go to the CFP, and (2) the second-highest ranked SEC team will go to the Sugar automatically.

The Orange has the option of either Notre Dame, an SEC team, or a Big Ten team. This year, I think it'll be no problem for the Orange to go with the Irish, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio State, or Michigan State. All of them draw comparable sized crowds and TV rankings to SEC teams.

The Rose automatically takes only Big Ten and Pac-12 teams. With Texas, TCU, Oklahoma, another Big Ten team, Notre Dame, Louisville, and others all likely to have better seasons than the third-best SEC team, I'm thinking the Cotton gets two non-SEC teams as well.

As for a second G5 team in the NY6, well, that would be a near-miracle.

(09-06-2016 03:20 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(09-06-2016 03:17 PM)polkhigh Wrote:  

(09-06-2016 03:04 PM)asucrutch23 Wrote:  

(09-06-2016 02:53 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(09-06-2016 02:37 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  If Houston goes to the playoffs, I think that is a G5 accessing the top tier, so there won't be another G5 team playing in a NY6 Bowl game.

I don't think that's how it works. The Access bowl is already chosen to be the Cotton bowl this year and the two semifinal bowls are the Peach Bowl and the Fiesta Bowl. Meaning if Houston was in the semifinals they would be in one of the semifinal bowls leaving the access bowl spots to the next highest G5 right?

Nope.

https://twitter.com/McMurphyESPN/status/...5558276096

Not guaranteed, but if it's the right team I'd say they do.
(Will they bring fans and will people watch?)

You'd see P5 influence first. They'd just use it as an excuse to put another SEC team in a NY6 bowl.

BTW, over the course of 12 years starting with the 2014 season, the Orange Bowl will have 8 non-playoff games. The contract states that the ACC will appear in all 8 of those games. The SEC is guaranteed to be the opponent a minimum of 3 of those games. The Big Ten is also guaranteed to be the opponent a minimum of 3 of those 8. This means Notre Dame can be the ACC's opponent a maximum of 2 of those 8 games.

This seems as likely as any year for the Orange Bowl to go ahead and fulfill one of its obligations to pick a Big Ten team instead of an SEC team. Besides, it has already taken one SEC team, Mississippi State after the 2014 season.

(09-06-2016 02:20 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  If Houston runs the table, would they even be considered for the playoff? Houston has a P5 caliber team. Last year they beat Louisville, dominated Vanderbilt, and convincingly beat FSU in their bowl game. Somehow, they slipped up against UConn. They just had an impressive win over Oklahoma and play Louisville again this year. Time will tell, but I suspect it will depend upon how Louisville and Oklahoma both do this year, as well as the other conference champs vying for a spot. If Oklahoma tanks, then Houston will probably just go back to a NY6 Bowl again. But what if Oklahoma goes perfect in Big12 play and wins their conference. Maybe Louisville has a really good season too. This will test the bias of the Playoff committee. It will be interesting if it comes to this and if a deserving G5 can not make it into the playoffs, then we might as well truly be in separate divisions.

If the AAC has another strong season where multiple teams enter the Top 25, then I see Houston getting in to the playoff with an undefeated record. They just need to have those strong teams on their schedule and beat them.

They're already #6 in the Coaches Poll. A few more impressive wins and they can crack that Top 4 IMO.

(09-06-2016 02:20 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  If Houston runs the table, would they even be considered for the playoff? Houston has a P5 caliber team. Last year they beat Louisville, dominated Vanderbilt, and convincingly beat FSU in their bowl game. Somehow, they slipped up against UConn. They just had an impressive win over Oklahoma and play Louisville again this year. Time will tell, but I suspect it will depend upon how Louisville and Oklahoma both do this year, as well as the other conference champs vying for a spot. If Oklahoma tanks, then Houston will probably just go back to a NY6 Bowl again. But what if Oklahoma goes perfect in Big12 play and wins their conference. Maybe Louisville has a really good season too. This will test the bias of the Playoff committee. It will be interesting if it comes to this and if a deserving G5 can not make it into the playoffs, then we might as well truly be in separate divisions.

Oklahoma has to finish as a 10 win team as does Louisville, Then Memphis has to beat Ole Miss and Temple has to beat Penn State. Naby isnt beating ND so no help there.

I think Houston has already rattled that cage and shook the hell out of the Big 12 and the so called P5 conferences.

Houston beat Oklahoma and Texas beat Notre Dame. Therefore, if Oklahoma beats Texas....mayhem

Houston beat FSU in the last bowl game. If FSU beats Clemson.......mayhem

If Houston losses to Louisville....everything back to normal.......mayhem

Houston will be in the playoff if they're undefeated.

Book it Dano.


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Houston has the best chance since the TCU/Boise State run of 2009 to challenge the power structure... here's how I have the rest of the top 10 Group of Five schools ranked after Week 1: http://saturdayblitz.com/2016/09/06/grou...-rankings/

With all due respect, your poll ain't worth a ****.

I take that back.

Forget the respect.

And here it is, so nobody has to give you the clicks.
10. Navy
9. SDSU
8. Tulsa
7. WKU
6. Toledo
5. Boise St.
4. South Alabama
3. Western Michigan
2. So. Mississippi
1. Houston

They'd need some teams to lose. Even though they beat Oklahoma, asides from Louisville they won't have anyone else on their schedule to weigh on. Behind them are Stanford, Washington, Georgia, Wisconsin, Texas and Michigan State. Either of those teams winning out would most likely leapfrog Houston before the season is over.

Houston needs Oklahoma, representing the B12, to be in the same conversation. If Texas/TCU/Baylor are ahead of Oklahoma in the B12, Houston doesn't stand a chance.

(09-06-2016 05:05 PM)AppinVA Wrote:  And here it is, so nobody has to give you the clicks.
10. Navy
9. SDSU
8. Tulsa
7. WKU
6. Toledo
5. Boise St.
4. South Alabama
3. Western Michigan
2. So. Mississippi
1. Houston

I root for South Alabama; however, you would have to put us behind BYU and Boise State. Plus you would have to put App State in at "2" for shutting down Tennessee before going into overtime. Based upon what I saw:


12. Wyoming
11. Western Michigan
10. Navy
9. Tulsa
8. WKU
7. Toledo
6. South Alabama
5. Boise St.
4. BYU
3. So. Mississippi
2. App State (loss to Tennesse but was impressive)
1. Houston