http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/14/opinio...ction&_r=0


There is a cascade of prominent Republicans endorsing Hillary, donating to Hillary, appearing in Hillary ads, talking up Hillary’s charms.
...
As Republican strategist Steve Schmidt noted on MSNBC, “the candidate in the race most like George W. Bush and Dick Cheney from a foreign policy perspective is in fact Hillary Clinton, not the Republican nominee.”
And that’s how Republicans prefer their crazy — not like Trump, but like Cheney.

In the current issue of Barrons magazine, the cover story discusses what stocks will benefit from a Hillary presidency. To wit

DEFENSE STOCKS.

I'm buying. Let's get the bombing under way.

Someone started early with the rum and cokes...


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There's so many things in that article that ring dead true. The Clinton's gave us NAFTA. She's a Rockefeller moderate Republican.

rum and cokes.................... if it were only true...............

So now Democrats are glad to be on the warpath?

(08-14-2016 01:03 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/14/opinio...ction&_r=0


There is a cascade of prominent Republicans endorsing Hillary, donating to Hillary, appearing in Hillary ads, talking up Hillary’s charms.
...
As Republican strategist Steve Schmidt noted on MSNBC, “the candidate in the race most like George W. Bush and Dick Cheney from a foreign policy perspective is in fact Hillary Clinton, not the Republican nominee.”
And that’s how Republicans prefer their crazy — not like Trump, but like Cheney.

The NYT believes W., McCain and Romney are extreme right wing fanatics. They don't even know what Republicans are.

Trump's message echoes in the Midwest. It will be studied and it will be copied. The problems of the white under educated are not being solved by either party. The problems of poverty are visiting my doorsteps. The town I grew up in. What crack cocaine was to urban centers I see meth amphetamines to mine. The UAW plant my Dad worked in is now a shell of itself and I imagine within the next ten years it will close. I'll never know how NAFTA and Free Trade ever made sense to anyone. Anyone with half a brain can deduce that 500 billion dollar trade deficits year after year after year are going to leave a mark eventually. I vote for the lesser of two evils. I can't even begin to fathom somebody like Trump with the nuclear codes. It just makes me laugh out loud when people say Hillary is this far left creature. She's anything but.

Hillary likes to start wars, this we can agree with. Unfortunately, she's not been very effective at winning them. or even barely losing. She and Obama gets their asses handed to them.

She is a Bush/Cheney type of Republican, Trump is a populist democratic like Roosevelt

(08-14-2016 02:20 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  She is a Bush/Cheney type of Republican, Trump is a populist democratic like Roosevelt

On this we agree. 8 years ago you all wanted him to be thrown in prison for war crimes. Now you get a woody because Hillary is just like him on the war.

(08-14-2016 01:33 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  So now Democrats are glad to be on the warpath?

While an independent, not I. Thats my biggest fear of her. That she'll be a warhawk.

(08-14-2016 03:04 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(08-14-2016 01:33 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  So now Democrats are glad to be on the warpath?

While an independent, not I. Thats my biggest fear of her. That she'll be a warhawk.

Warhawk? No. Will d ostupid stuff that sets parts of the world on fire? Well, yea, her resume shows plenty of experiene doing just that.

(08-14-2016 01:49 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I'll never know how NAFTA and Free Trade ever made sense to anyone. Anyone with half a brain can deduce that 500 billion dollar trade deficits year after year after year are going to leave a mark eventually.

Well try to educate yourself a bit. Here's an even handed analysis from the Wharton School.

Link to Wharton

Here's another analysis from the Council on Foreign Relations.

Link to CFR

Ok both of your links I tried to read. The Wharton one comes up blank. The second tells about it's impact and our loss of manufacturing jobs in the automotive field especially. I still haven't read one thing where it can be sustainable. Can someone please tell me how it is sustainable year after year after year. We get their now by printing money. If we didn't have the ability to print our own money the house of cards would have collapsed long ago. We don't build anything anymore. We just exist by putting our hands in other people's pockets. No one has ever shown me compelling evidence where this free trade helps the majority of Americans.

Hillary is a wolf in sheep's clothing by pretending to be a Democrat. She is secretly a Republican plant from the 1960s.

(08-14-2016 03:21 PM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  

(08-14-2016 01:49 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I'll never know how NAFTA and Free Trade ever made sense to anyone. Anyone with half a brain can deduce that 500 billion dollar trade deficits year after year after year are going to leave a mark eventually.

Well try to educate yourself a bit. Here's an even handed analysis from the Wharton School.

Link to Wharton

Here's another analysis from the Council on Foreign Relations.

Link to CFR

Lmao.. CFR. You must be a fan of one world govt too. Free trade is pretty much a disaster for anybody not in the upper class.

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(08-14-2016 01:33 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  So now Democrats are glad to be on the warpath?

Theyve become the very thing they claim to hate.

http://allisonfallon.com/the-person-you-hate/

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(08-14-2016 05:23 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(08-14-2016 01:33 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  So now Democrats are glad to be on the warpath?

Theyve become the very thing they claim to hate.

http://allisonfallon.com/the-person-you-hate/

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guess Hiliary won't be needing any of these signs:

(08-14-2016 04:18 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Ok both of your links I tried to read. The Wharton one comes up blank. The second tells about it's impact and our loss of manufacturing jobs in the automotive field especially. I still haven't read one thing where it can be sustainable. Can someone please tell me how it is sustainable year after year after year. We get their now by printing money. If we didn't have the ability to print our own money the house of cards would have collapsed long ago. We don't build anything anymore. We just exist by putting our hands in other people's pockets. No one has ever shown me compelling evidence where this free trade helps the majority of Americans.

Corrected link to Wharton

Regarding the sustainability, this is similar to the general question as to whether or not a trade deficit is good or bad. In general, the trade deficit does not accumulate like the national debt. There are also arguments that the balance of payments calculation doesn't consider many factors that are favorable to the US.

Nonetheless, the capital flows created by the deficit will return to the US in various ways. It can be straight forward such as a foreign company building a plant in the US. It can be foreigners buying pricey penthouse apartments. It is also the foreigners buying US stocks and T-bills.

It's complicated and I'd hope that we can cut the deficit and ultimately turn it into a surplus. But it isn't the boogeyman you seem to think.