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Bouagnon vs. the All-Timers
Joel Bouagnon currently has 2,026 career rushing yards with 23 rushing TDs. He has a good chance to end up in the top ten. His yards currently put him 16th behind:

5,164 Garrett Wolfe
4,941 Michael Turner
4,343 Jordan Lynch
3,745 Mark Kellar
3,500 Allen Ross
3,438 Adam Dach
3,314 LeShon Johnson
3,155 Charles Talley
2,983 Chandler Harnish
2,916 Chad Spann
2,717 Stacey Robinson
2,432 Thomas Hammock
2,227 John LaLonde
2,191 Darryl Richardson
2,095 Cameron Stingily

His 23 rushing TDs currently put him 11th behind:

52 Garrett Wolfe
49 Chad Spann
48 Jordan Lynch
43 Michael Turner
38 Stacey Robinson
32 Mark Kellar
30 Allen Ross
27 Charles Talley
25 Thomas Hammock
24 Chandler Harnish
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i did not realize Adam Dach had that many yards. I thought Stacy Robinson would have more.
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Embarrassing to compare him to the all time greats. Has never been the best talent on team since he arrived on campus. We have had some GREATS.
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(07-13-2016 11:48 AM)NIU05 Wrote:  Embarrassing to compare him to the all time greats. Has never been the best talent on team since he arrived on campus. We have had some GREATS.

Really? It's about what a player does on the field. He has done enough to earn that respect with hard work and dedication.
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Fitting that 28 fits in best in that Chad Spann/Tom Hammock neighborhood.
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(07-13-2016 12:06 PM)DogTracks Wrote:  Fitting that 28 fits in best in that Chad Spann/Tom Hammock neighborhood.

Thats a HELL NO... Comparing him to Hammock & Spam? Hammock was an NFLer play w/o the heart condition and probably 6-8 years. He was a stud. Bough is too slow to put in that grouping.

Guys are eye are off with the RBs, we add are so use it the QB play the last 6-8 years.
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You can't knock his productivity. NIU has had some pretty flashy running backs. His only knock is not being flashy.
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(07-13-2016 12:03 PM)HuskieFanatic Wrote:  
(07-13-2016 11:48 AM)NIU05 Wrote:  Embarrassing to compare him to the all time greats. Has never been the best talent on team since he arrived on campus. We have had some GREATS.
Really? It's about what a player does on the field. He has done enough to earn that respect with hard work and dedication.

Yea, really! It's your opinion versus that of NIU05. How many of the "GREATS" NIU05 refers to did you see in action? Is your opinion taking into account the quality of the opposition? Does your opinion factor in the strength of the line blocking for him? Does your opinion calculate the differences in offensive philosophy by the back's coordinator? Does your opinion allow for the play of other key offensive players at quarterback, receiver?
Or is your opinion mainly based on watching him and simply looking at the numbers? Unless you've got the computer program or knowledge to address everything mentioned, then it comes down to your opinion versus his. By the way, I don't recall NIU05 questioning his hard work or dedication specifically, he simply had a different view. Is this commentary overly dramatic? Probably, but it's what so many of these "conversations" end up being, especially if someone shares NIU05's view or is older Huskie fan.
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(07-13-2016 05:06 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  You can't knock his productivity. NIU has had some pretty flashy running backs. His only knock is not being flashy.

He has been very productive and a pretty good back. I would say he lacks explosiveness. I think some of the perception that the o line has been sub par is due to JB. There are plays he gets a few yards and should get several and plays where he gets several yards but should take it to the house. That being said, he is reliable, durable, and protects the ball.
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(07-13-2016 05:06 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  You can't knock his productivity. NIU has had some pretty flashy running backs. His only knock is not being flashy.

Productivity would include yards per carry average, and you can knock that, certainly when compared to the other guys in the Top 10 lists for career stats. To me, he looks like a slower AJ Harris. He did get a fair number of yards after contact against OSU (I watched the game again) but he doesn't do anything special. He's solid though - we've had so many injuries to RBs that it's a good thing he's been able to stay on the field.
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Not in my top 15.
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(07-13-2016 05:06 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  You can't knock his productivity. NIU has had some pretty flashy running backs. His only knock is not being flashy.

This is why Bouagnon is criminally underrated.
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(07-13-2016 07:39 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(07-13-2016 05:06 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  You can't knock his productivity. NIU has had some pretty flashy running backs. His only knock is not being flashy.

Productivity would include yards per carry average, and you can knock that, certainly when compared to the other guys in the Top 10 lists for career stats. To me, he looks like a slower AJ Harris. He did get a fair number of yards after contact against OSU (I watched the game again) but he doesn't do anything special. He's solid though - we've had so many injuries to RBs that it's a good thing he's been able to stay on the field.

He was manly as hell in that OSU game.
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In my world, he splits the carries with a guy who can break one at any time.

And in a related note, Huff is not listed in the current online Roster. Less than 4 weeks til Fall Camp. If Huff is a no-show, I will quickly hop on to the Tommy Mister Bandwagon.
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(07-13-2016 10:13 PM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  
(07-13-2016 07:39 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(07-13-2016 05:06 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  You can't knock his productivity. NIU has had some pretty flashy running backs. His only knock is not being flashy.

Productivity would include yards per carry average, and you can knock that, certainly when compared to the other guys in the Top 10 lists for career stats. To me, he looks like a slower AJ Harris. He did get a fair number of yards after contact against OSU (I watched the game again) but he doesn't do anything special. He's solid though - we've had so many injuries to RBs that it's a good thing he's been able to stay on the field.

He was manly as hell in that OSU game.

True dat. Especially impressive since we had not much else for OSU to worry about.

A shame we had that procedure penalty inside the 5. He punches it in and....03-banghead
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(07-13-2016 10:29 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  
(07-13-2016 10:13 PM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  
(07-13-2016 07:39 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(07-13-2016 05:06 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  You can't knock his productivity. NIU has had some pretty flashy running backs. His only knock is not being flashy.

Productivity would include yards per carry average, and you can knock that, certainly when compared to the other guys in the Top 10 lists for career stats. To me, he looks like a slower AJ Harris. He did get a fair number of yards after contact against OSU (I watched the game again) but he doesn't do anything special. He's solid though - we've had so many injuries to RBs that it's a good thing he's been able to stay on the field.

He was manly as hell in that OSU game.

True dat. Especially impressive since we had not much else for OSU to worry about.

A shame we had that procedure penalty inside the 5. He punches it in and....03-banghead

No joke, I was emotionally spent for a week after that game. I will always shake my head when thinking about that game. Wanted that one so bad.
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If Huff is not in I'm sitting out the year for Harbison. I think Jones will end up being a step above Minster. He's a specimen but has yet to play a game as a back. As far as ACRB goes I would compare him almost exactly to Justin Anderson. He's reliable but I feel if most D1 backs got the amount of carries he had with our massive line (up to par or not) they would do the same. I honestly think if Huff received the same amount of carries he'd be on every preseason watch list.
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(07-14-2016 03:19 AM)Suptroop Wrote:  If Huff is not in I'm sitting out the year for Harbison. I think Jones will end up being a step above Minster. He's a specimen but has yet to play a game as a back. As far as ACRB goes I would compare him almost exactly to Justin Anderson. He's reliable but I feel if most D1 backs got the amount of carries he had with our massive line (up to par or not) they would do the same. I honestly think if Huff received the same amount of carries he'd be on every preseason watch list.

I agree.

We really need a playmaker to step up at RB (if Huff isn't playing), whomever is splitting time with Bouagnon.
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(07-14-2016 03:19 AM)Suptroop Wrote:  If Huff is not in I'm sitting out the year for Harbison. I think Jones will end up being a step above Minster. He's a specimen but has yet to play a game as a back. As far as ACRB goes I would compare him almost exactly to Justin Anderson. He's reliable but I feel if most D1 backs got the amount of carries he had with our massive line (up to par or not) they would do the same. I honestly think if Huff received the same amount of carries he'd be on every preseason watch list.

Huff needs to learn how to hold onto the ball though. He's obviously more explosive, but not more reliable. That's why he used in situations and ACRB is used as the every down back.
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You guys are all over Huff's jock? He needs to put in the work to be anything more than a support back. He doesn't know or study the plays and is constantly in the wrong spot, misses his blocking assignments. The kid has talent, but he's wasting it. Coaches are frustrated because they know the potential. You can't force work ethic. Dude got Graham killed. How many chances do you give and individual over the team? That's why the coaches made it a team decision to bring him back or not.

ACRB works his ass off and has been very productive. Who cares if it's not flashy if he hurts the team less than Huff and they end up with the same yardage totals at the end of the game.

If Huff had the same yards as ACRB going into his sr year he would be the second coming?
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