I just happened to notice this:

http://www.fbschedules.com/2016/06/arizo...ll-series/

Texas State transitioned to FBS in 2012 and already have a bigger name coming to their home than I think we've ever had at Huskie Stadium. What do you think their secret is?

(06-24-2016 08:51 PM)Michael the Narwhal Wrote:  I just happened to notice this:

http://www.fbschedules.com/2016/06/arizo...ll-series/

Texas State transitioned to FBS in 2012 and already have a bigger name coming to their home than I think we've ever had at Huskie Stadium. What do you think their secret is?

Is BYU not a big name? Boston College?

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(06-24-2016 08:51 PM)Michael the Narwhal Wrote:  I just happened to notice this:

http://www.fbschedules.com/2016/06/arizo...ll-series/

Texas State transitioned to FBS in 2012 and already have a bigger name coming to their home than I think we've ever had at Huskie Stadium. What do you think their secret is?

1. It should be an easy win for Arizona State.

2. Bigger stadium = ability to pay more.

3. If Arizona State doesn't buy their way out of the game, I am sure it is an important recruiting area for them.

I am legitimately jealous of Texas State's stadium. Hopefully ours looks like that soon.

(06-24-2016 10:57 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  I am legitimately jealous of Texas State's stadium. Hopefully ours looks like that soon.

I think some on this board were led to believe that certain teams would not play at NIU because they were afraid of losing or the stadium wasn't big enough. We all know now that was complete BS because your current AD scheduled all of the good home and home teams when NIU was playing its best football and we are not even certain if NIU will have the funds or the need to make their stadium bigger, especially with the budget crises in Illinois. You would think teams would be even more afraid to play NIU when Frazier was scheduling them? With that being said, some schools including UT have been doing this for a very long time, well before TSU or NIU. The bottom line is that your last AD simply didn't schedule them. He also took the easy road and scheduled the money games, for example, four one and done games with Nebraska to help NIU bring in more revenue. The current AD has worked very hard to bring in revenue in other ways such as premium seating options and selling beer, the game in Chicago, etc that now that helps NIU get away from the money games. Think what you want but it was a choice and the old AD and the ones before him took the one and done/money game route. These teams will schedule one for ones, its happening fairly often these days. Most of the one for ones that UT has scheduled are either no pay both ways or equal pay both ways. In other words if you play at the Glass Bowl we will play at your place for free if you place at our place for free OR some of them we will play at your place for less if you match that amount when you play at UT for less.

(06-25-2016 06:23 AM)Stpetebeachrocketfan Wrote:  

(06-24-2016 10:57 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  I am legitimately jealous of Texas State's stadium. Hopefully ours looks like that soon.

I think some on this board were led to believe that certain teams would not play at NIU because they were afraid of losing or the stadium wasn't big enough. We all know now that was complete BS because your current AD scheduled all of the good home and home teams when NIU was playing its best football and we are not even certain if NIU will have the funds or the need to make their stadium bigger, especially with the budget crises in Illinois. You would think teams would be even more afraid to play NIU when Frazier was scheduling them? With that being said, some schools including UT have been doing this for a very long time, well before TSU or NIU. The bottom line is that your last AD simply didn't schedule them. He also took the easy road and scheduled the money games, for example, four one and done games with Nebraska to help NIU bring in more revenue. The current AD has worked very hard to bring in revenue in other ways such as premium seating options and selling beer, the game in Chicago, etc that now that helps NIU get away from the money games. Think what you want but it was a choice and the old AD and the ones before him took the one and done/money game route. These teams will schedule one for ones, its happening fairly often these days. Most of the one for ones that UT has scheduled are either no pay both ways or equal pay both ways. In other words if you play at the Glass Bowl we will play at your place for free if you place at our place for free OR some of them we will play at your place for less if you match that amount when you play at UT for less.

+1.

Huskie Stadium's condition and capacity means absolutely ZERO for getting schools to play here. I am perplexed who and how and why that runaway rumor got started. It is 100% false to say that Huskie Stadium must be expanded before the Utah or BYU game. Who comes up with that nonsense? Utah and BYU don't give a rat's behind. They'll likely want X number of tickets and X dollars and that's it. Whatever was worked out is acceptable to both sides, but I guarantee none of these schools ever said "Well, 24,000 is kind of a small capacity. We won't come unless it's larger." That's completely irrelevant to them.

(06-24-2016 08:51 PM)Michael the Narwhal Wrote:  I just happened to notice this:

http://www.fbschedules.com/2016/06/arizo...ll-series/

Texas State transitioned to FBS in 2012 and already have a bigger name coming to their home than I think we've ever had at Huskie Stadium. What do you think their secret is?

Maryland was a top 15 team in 2003 when they played at Huskie Stadium. Is that not good enough?

What about upcoming Huskie Stadium opponents like Boston College, Utah, Vanderbilt, BYU and Maryland again? It's not like Arizona State is an elite program.

There is no "secret", it could be a bunch of reasons. AD relationships, location, money etc. Each situation is unique.

It was just an excuse to explain why we couldn't bring in BCS programs yet other non-BCS schools were doing it at the time.

Jeff C sold out our football team. We had a home game with Wisconsin that he gave up. We played both Purdue and Minnesota twice each at their stadiums for no return games. Both of which are low-tier BCS programs that shouldn't have enough clout to demand two home games with nothing in return.

Your new AD is getting it done, that is the great news!

(06-25-2016 06:48 AM)niubrad00 Wrote:  

(06-25-2016 06:23 AM)Stpetebeachrocketfan Wrote:  

(06-24-2016 10:57 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  I am legitimately jealous of Texas State's stadium. Hopefully ours looks like that soon.

I think some on this board were led to believe that certain teams would not play at NIU because they were afraid of losing or the stadium wasn't big enough. We all know now that was complete BS because your current AD scheduled all of the good home and home teams when NIU was playing its best football and we are not even certain if NIU will have the funds or the need to make their stadium bigger, especially with the budget crises in Illinois. You would think teams would be even more afraid to play NIU when Frazier was scheduling them? With that being said, some schools including UT have been doing this for a very long time, well before TSU or NIU. The bottom line is that your last AD simply didn't schedule them. He also took the easy road and scheduled the money games, for example, four one and done games with Nebraska to help NIU bring in more revenue. The current AD has worked very hard to bring in revenue in other ways such as premium seating options and selling beer, the game in Chicago, etc that now that helps NIU get away from the money games. Think what you want but it was a choice and the old AD and the ones before him took the one and done/money game route. These teams will schedule one for ones, its happening fairly often these days. Most of the one for ones that UT has scheduled are either no pay both ways or equal pay both ways. In other words if you play at the Glass Bowl we will play at your place for free if you place at our place for free OR some of them we will play at your place for less if you match that amount when you play at UT for less.

+1.

Huskie Stadium's condition and capacity means absolutely ZERO for getting schools to play here. I am perplexed who and how and why that runaway rumor got started. It is 100% false to say that Huskie Stadium must be expanded before the Utah or BYU game. Who comes up with that nonsense? Utah and BYU don't give a rat's behind. They'll likely want X number of tickets and X dollars and that's it. Whatever was worked out is acceptable to both sides, but I guarantee none of these schools ever said "Well, 24,000 is kind of a small capacity. We won't come unless it's larger." That's completely irrelevant to them.

Not going to chime in on how our record and smaller stadium effected our inability to get the Indiana's and Northwestern's to play in Dekalb, but will say that going over 30k and having a first class luxury suite facility can only help down the road. Hope they get it done in the near future.

I simply stated that their stadium was awesome and I wish outdated, old, and dilapidated Huskies Stadium would some day look like TSU's. But I guess we can hate on Jiff some more.

(06-25-2016 01:33 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  I simply stated that their stadium was awesome and I wish outdated, old, and dilapidated Huskies Stadium would some day look like TSU's. But I guess we can hate on Jiff some more.

YEAH SCREW JIFF!

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(06-25-2016 11:09 AM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  Not going to chime in on how our record and smaller stadium effected our inability to get the Indiana's and Northwestern's to play in Dekalb, but will say that going over 30k and having a first class luxury suite facility can only help down the road. Hope they get it done in the near future.

Since you did chime in, explain "how our record and smaller stadium effected our inability to get the Indiana's and Northwestern's to play in Dekalb?" Indiana does not "travel" when it comes to their football fans, and exactly how many "first class luxury suites" will be made available to our opponents in the future that's going to bring in opponents? Getting those games have more to do with perceived recruiting disadvantages, the relationships between ADs, home versus away games promised, the number of tickets guaranteed to the visitors, etc.; how else do you explain Western Michigan getting to host Illinois, or ASU having played at Toledo?

(06-27-2016 09:48 AM)uiniu57 Wrote:  

(06-25-2016 11:09 AM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  Not going to chime in on how our record and smaller stadium effected our inability to get the Indiana's and Northwestern's to play in Dekalb, but will say that going over 30k and having a first class luxury suite facility can only help down the road. Hope they get it done in the near future.

Since you did chime in, explain "how our record and smaller stadium effected our inability to get the Indiana's and Northwestern's to play in Dekalb?" Indiana does not "travel" when it comes to their football fans, and exactly how many "first class luxury suites" will be made available to our opponents in the future that's going to bring in opponents? Getting those games have more to do with perceived recruiting disadvantages, the relationships between ADs, home versus away games promised, the number of tickets guaranteed to the visitors, etc.; how else do you explain Western Michigan getting to host Illinois, or ASU having played at Toledo?

I don't know if those items effected these close-by and seemingly obtainable teams not scheduling us in the past. I would certainly guess though that a nicer/larger facility would help sway an on-the-fence AD (more allotted visitor tickets, better experience for their fans). Indiana has a crap-load of alumni in the Chicago area, its a shame we have yet to put together a 1 and 1 (or 2) with them.

I hope we have some form of good news waiting when our idiot politicians choose to get out of the way.

(06-27-2016 10:43 AM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  

(06-27-2016 09:48 AM)uiniu57 Wrote:  

(06-25-2016 11:09 AM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  Not going to chime in on how our record and smaller stadium effected our inability to get the Indiana's and Northwestern's to play in Dekalb, but will say that going over 30k and having a first class luxury suite facility can only help down the road. Hope they get it done in the near future.

Since you did chime in, explain "how our record and smaller stadium effected our inability to get the Indiana's and Northwestern's to play in Dekalb?" Indiana does not "travel" when it comes to their football fans, and exactly how many "first class luxury suites" will be made available to our opponents in the future that's going to bring in opponents? Getting those games have more to do with perceived recruiting disadvantages, the relationships between ADs, home versus away games promised, the number of tickets guaranteed to the visitors, etc.; how else do you explain Western Michigan getting to host Illinois, or ASU having played at Toledo?

I don't know if those items effected these close-by and seemingly obtainable teams not scheduling us in the past. I would certainly guess though that a nicer/larger facility would help sway an on-the-fence AD (more allotted visitor tickets, better experience for their fans). Indiana has a crap-load of alumni in the Chicago area, its a shame we have yet to put together a 1 and 1 (or 2) with them.

I hope we have some form of good news waiting when our idiot politicians choose to get out of the way.

when Robert Collins was an asst AD he was in charge of scheduling. He told me how difficult it is. It involves timing, relationships, compatible dates etc. Just because we want to schedule it is only one part. I think SF has very good relationships in the business thats taken him years to develope. By the way I thonk the UI at WMU has been switched to Champaign as the Illini have them like $1.5 M. Check it out.

(06-25-2016 06:23 AM)Stpetebeachrocketfan Wrote:  

(06-24-2016 10:57 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  I am legitimately jealous of Texas State's stadium. Hopefully ours looks like that soon.

I think some on this board were led to believe that certain teams would not play at NIU because they were afraid of losing or the stadium wasn't big enough. We all know now that was complete BS because your current AD scheduled all of the good home and home teams when NIU was playing its best football and we are not even certain if NIU will have the funds or the need to make their stadium bigger, especially with the budget crises in Illinois. You would think teams would be even more afraid to play NIU when Frazier was scheduling them? With that being said, some schools including UT have been doing this for a very long time, well before TSU or NIU. The bottom line is that your last AD simply didn't schedule them. He also took the easy road and scheduled the money games, for example, four one and done games with Nebraska to help NIU bring in more revenue. The current AD has worked very hard to bring in revenue in other ways such as premium seating options and selling beer, the game in Chicago, etc that now that helps NIU get away from the money games. Think what you want but it was a choice and the old AD and the ones before him took the one and done/money game route. These teams will schedule one for ones, its happening fairly often these days. Most of the one for ones that UT has scheduled are either no pay both ways or equal pay both ways. In other words if you play at the Glass Bowl we will play at your place for free if you place at our place for free OR some of them we will play at your place for less if you match that amount when you play at UT for less.

Some of us knew it was BS back then because Toledo was already scheduling good teams at their place. Their stadium is a little bigger, with an actual pressbox, but not a big enough difference that it would have stopped schools from playing in DeKalb.

(06-27-2016 10:55 AM)GCD70 Wrote:  

(06-27-2016 10:43 AM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  

(06-27-2016 09:48 AM)uiniu57 Wrote:  

(06-25-2016 11:09 AM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  Not going to chime in on how our record and smaller stadium effected our inability to get the Indiana's and Northwestern's to play in Dekalb, but will say that going over 30k and having a first class luxury suite facility can only help down the road. Hope they get it done in the near future.

Since you did chime in, explain "how our record and smaller stadium effected our inability to get the Indiana's and Northwestern's to play in Dekalb?" Indiana does not "travel" when it comes to their football fans, and exactly how many "first class luxury suites" will be made available to our opponents in the future that's going to bring in opponents? Getting those games have more to do with perceived recruiting disadvantages, the relationships between ADs, home versus away games promised, the number of tickets guaranteed to the visitors, etc.; how else do you explain Western Michigan getting to host Illinois, or ASU having played at Toledo?

I don't know if those items effected these close-by and seemingly obtainable teams not scheduling us in the past. I would certainly guess though that a nicer/larger facility would help sway an on-the-fence AD (more allotted visitor tickets, better experience for their fans). Indiana has a crap-load of alumni in the Chicago area, its a shame we have yet to put together a 1 and 1 (or 2) with them.

I hope we have some form of good news waiting when our idiot politicians choose to get out of the way.

when Robert Collins was an asst AD he was in charge of scheduling. He told me how difficult it is. It involves timing, relationships, compatible dates etc. Just because we want to schedule it is only one part. I think SF has very good relationships in the business thats taken him years to develope. By the way I thonk the UI at WMU has been switched to Champaign as the Illini have them like $1.5 M. Check it out.

Agreed their are many variables that come into play. The road has to be a bit smoother though with the proposed stadium improvements, excited to see them happen, hopefully sooner rather than later.

(06-27-2016 10:55 AM)GCD70 Wrote:  when Robert Collins was an asst AD he was in charge of scheduling. He told me how difficult it is. It involves timing, relationships, compatible dates etc. Just because we want to schedule it is only one part. I think SF has very good relationships in the business thats taken him years to develope. By the way I thonk the UI at WMU has been switched to Champaign as the Illini have them like $1.5 M. Check it out.

They switched that game to Champaign a few years ago. IIRC, and this may not be entirely accurate since it's a long time ago now, there was an employee in the Illinois athletic department at the time that game was originally scheduled that had some tie to the WMU AD. That's how the game at Waldo originally got scheduled and why UI scheduled WMU so much.

(06-27-2016 11:49 AM)UIHuskie Wrote:  

(06-27-2016 10:55 AM)GCD70 Wrote:  when Robert Collins was an asst AD he was in charge of scheduling. He told me how difficult it is. It involves timing, relationships, compatible dates etc. Just because we want to schedule it is only one part. I think SF has very good relationships in the business thats taken him years to develope. By the way I thonk the UI at WMU has been switched to Champaign as the Illini have them like $1.5 M. Check it out.

They switched that game to Champaign a few years ago. IIRC, and this may not be entirely accurate since it's a long time ago now, there was an employee in the Illinois athletic department at the time that game was originally scheduled that had some tie to the WMU AD. That's how the game at Waldo originally got scheduled and why UI scheduled WMU so much.

I wish our state government would encourage all FBS teams in Illinois to schedule each other regularly, like the initiative currently in Michigan. Maybe a discussion for after they learn to handle the state's checkbook.

(06-27-2016 12:32 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  

(06-27-2016 11:49 AM)UIHuskie Wrote:  

(06-27-2016 10:55 AM)GCD70 Wrote:  when Robert Collins was an asst AD he was in charge of scheduling. He told me how difficult it is. It involves timing, relationships, compatible dates etc. Just because we want to schedule it is only one part. I think SF has very good relationships in the business thats taken him years to develope. By the way I thonk the UI at WMU has been switched to Champaign as the Illini have them like $1.5 M. Check it out.

They switched that game to Champaign a few years ago. IIRC, and this may not be entirely accurate since it's a long time ago now, there was an employee in the Illinois athletic department at the time that game was originally scheduled that had some tie to the WMU AD. That's how the game at Waldo originally got scheduled and why UI scheduled WMU so much.

I wish our state government would encourage all FBS teams in Illinois to schedule each other regularly, like the initiative currently in Michigan. Maybe a discussion for after they learn to handle the state's checkbook.

Those bozos in Springfield couldn't give a rat's arse about college football - or anything else in this state unless it involves filling their pockets. Give them some cash and maybe they'll listen to you.