(06-22-2016 03:34 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-22-2016 03:11 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-22-2016 02:55 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(06-22-2016 02:50 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Look, I'm sorry. I don't see a semi automatic as a hunting rifle. Its not sport. Its also really a poor personal defense choice.

Do you have much hunting and/or personal defense experience?

LOL. One of the other posters on this board shot his first deer on MY PROPERTY (Well it was mine till I sold it last year). I grew up hunting (although not on my property - its was a long way from where I lived). At least 4x per year. I don't hunt now but I don't see most types of hunting as being something evil. I'll probably go hunting this year (my uncle just bought a hunting camp so I'll probably be heading up there in December).

Our house was attacked when I was a child. Basically some loon didn't like my father's law practice. The solution my father had was ... 'call the police', collect the family on the second floor and use a buckshot filled low guage shotgun if someone tried to storm up the stairs (Ain't no one getting up those stairs). My father did some civil rights work so there was always that danger. We had a plan in place for it. In the aftermath, my father and mother were also concerned with the neighbors overreacting and hurting themselves. We were glad for the support, but some of them seemed to be a bit too gung ho in their opinion.

Look, if you think that you need a AR 15, then you should have a DAMN good reason.

Part of my issue with the NRA and guns is that I'm used to using them and being around them. Using an AR 15 to hunt is kind of douchy. Kind of like hunting in a seeded field (yea, I know that lots do it) or a stocked field.

We should outlaw douchy stuff excluding actual douches of course.

This gun is more effective than an ar15 but doesnt look scary. Id trade an ar15 in a heartbeat for one. Maybe a new govt program. Turn in your ar15 for an m1 garand

I like it

The ban, obviously, should be based upon the fire rate of the gun. And there should be SEVERE penalties for modification without permission and licensing. None of this 'wink-wink' stuff that takes place when someone forgets about their modification.

(06-22-2016 03:36 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Tom, you still have absolutely no idea what semi automatic means.

In a way a full auto might be less dangerous if the user is untrained. Run outa ammo fast, hit less.

Yall liberals cant even agree on a reason to ban a weapon

is it the rate of fire, or the way it looks "assault style", or is it the caliber?

What a crock!

I find it hilarious how some of yall still dont know what semi-auto means, but yall are trying to lecture us on weapons. Thats ******* laughable and sad at the same damn time!

(11-22-2006 01:36 AM)uab278 Wrote:  

SCConway Wrote:

Pence Wrote:It's a good day, as Memphis loses a basketball game.

You NEVER root against a conference team in out-of-conference games.

Well you gotta look at it like this.... We "beat" Georgia Tech in a scrimmage where the score was not officially kept, so that looks good for us. However I must admit that there is a little bit of grudge and either team could win when the tigers and blazers step on the court together. GO CUSA!!!

It is already illegal. Even with shotguns. You have to plug them.

Tom keeps on proving my point. He knows nothing about firearms. It's funny, liberals have a knack for taking very emotionally charged stances on issues that they don't actually understand.

(06-22-2016 03:51 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  Tom keeps on proving my point. He knows nothing about firearms. It's funny, liberals have a knack for taking very emotionally charged stances on issues that they don't actually understand.

Oh I understand the issue. I just don't agree with you. And neither does the majority of Americans..in poll..after poll..after poll. Its just that they haven't prioritized it yet in off year elections.

(06-22-2016 03:47 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  Yall liberals cant even agree on a reason to ban a weapon

is it the rate of fire, or the way it looks "assault style", or is it the caliber?

What a crock!

I find it hilarious how some of yall still dont know what semi-auto means, but yall are trying to lecture us on weapons. Thats ******* laughable and sad at the same damn time!

Rate of fire and caliber.

If you wanna make it look big bad and manly...go right ahead. Just don't open bully (oops I mean carry) it.

(06-22-2016 03:58 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-22-2016 03:47 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  Yall liberals cant even agree on a reason to ban a weapon

is it the rate of fire, or the way it looks "assault style", or is it the caliber?

What a crock!

I find it hilarious how some of yall still dont know what semi-auto means, but yall are trying to lecture us on weapons. Thats ******* laughable and sad at the same damn time!

Rate of fire and caliber.

If you wanna make it look big bad and manly...go right ahead. Just don't open bully (oops I mean carry) it.

your double standards and hypocrisy are showing...

In my lifetime a progressives have decided that they should legislate norms, mores, thought, speech and take away firearms. This has all happened before and it has never ended well. It was called National Socialism.

(06-22-2016 03:58 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-22-2016 03:47 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  Yall liberals cant even agree on a reason to ban a weapon

is it the rate of fire, or the way it looks "assault style", or is it the caliber?

What a crock!

I find it hilarious how some of yall still dont know what semi-auto means, but yall are trying to lecture us on weapons. Thats ******* laughable and sad at the same damn time!

Rate of fire and caliber.

If you wanna make it look big bad and manly...go right ahead. Just don't open bully (oops I mean carry) it.

I'll play.

At what rate of fire should we ban guns?

How about which caliber?

(06-22-2016 04:19 PM)shere khan Wrote:  In my lifetime a progressives have decided that they should legislate norms, mores, thought, speech and take away firearms. This has all happened before and it has never ended well. It was called National Socialism.

The Nazi's, since you went there, banned abortion and put LGBT folks in concentration camps. They also demonized foreigners.

Is Trump a Nazi? No. Is he deeply troubling to supporters of personal liberty? Yep.

You have all the free speech you want. You don't have a right to a tax deduction to promulgate that speech.

The GOP, for decades, legislated all manner of norms, including the kind of sex that consenting unrelated adults can have in the privacy of their own bedrooms. They also, currently, want to tell people what gender roles they must comport to while in public.

Sure, I don't want any moron to have a gun that fires 50 rounds a minute without them having a damn good reason for having it.

(06-22-2016 05:16 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-22-2016 04:19 PM)shere khan Wrote:  In my lifetime a progressives have decided that they should legislate norms, mores, thought, speech and take away firearms. This has all happened before and it has never ended well. It was called National Socialism.

The Nazi's, since you went there, banned abortion and put LGBT folks in concentration camps. They also demonized foreigners.

Is Trump a Nazi? No. Is he deeply troubling to supporters of personal liberty? Yep.

You have all the free speech you want. You don't have a right to a tax deduction to promulgate that speech.

The GOP, for decades, legislated all manner of norms, including the kind of sex that consenting unrelated adults can have in the privacy of their own bedrooms. They also, currently, want to tell people what gender roles they must comport to while in public.

Sure, I don't want any moron to have a gun that fires 50 rounds a minute without them having a damn good reason for having it.

So you are calling for the outright ban of all guns? I ask because 50 rounds per minute can be accomplished with a circa 1897 Webley Revolver and speedloaders.....in other words 19th century technology.

Perhaps the best thing you can do at this point is admit you have no idea WTF you are talking about and bow out of the conversation before you embarrass yourself with your profound ignorance of firearms any more.

(06-22-2016 03:58 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-22-2016 03:47 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  Yall liberals cant even agree on a reason to ban a weapon

is it the rate of fire, or the way it looks "assault style", or is it the caliber?

What a crock!

I find it hilarious how some of yall still dont know what semi-auto means, but yall are trying to lecture us on weapons. Thats ******* laughable and sad at the same damn time!

Rate of fire and caliber.

If you wanna make it look big bad and manly...go right ahead. Just don't open bully (oops I mean carry) it.

If that were the case, you wouldn't be calling for a ban on AK's.

Obama's new counterterrorism method is to go into Mosques and yell:

"Clang clang clang goes the trolley....!"

If someone sings the next verse of the Judy Garland song, we have a new member of the watch list.

(06-22-2016 05:46 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(06-22-2016 05:16 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-22-2016 04:19 PM)shere khan Wrote:  In my lifetime a progressives have decided that they should legislate norms, mores, thought, speech and take away firearms. This has all happened before and it has never ended well. It was called National Socialism.

The Nazi's, since you went there, banned abortion and put LGBT folks in concentration camps. They also demonized foreigners.

Is Trump a Nazi? No. Is he deeply troubling to supporters of personal liberty? Yep.

You have all the free speech you want. You don't have a right to a tax deduction to promulgate that speech.

The GOP, for decades, legislated all manner of norms, including the kind of sex that consenting unrelated adults can have in the privacy of their own bedrooms. They also, currently, want to tell people what gender roles they must comport to while in public.

Sure, I don't want any moron to have a gun that fires 50 rounds a minute without them having a damn good reason for having it.

So you are calling for the outright ban of all guns? I ask because 50 rounds per minute can be accomplished with a circa 1897 Webley Revolver and speedloaders.....in other words 19th century technology.

Perhaps the best thing you can do at this point is admit you have no idea WTF you are talking about and bow out of the conversation before you embarrass yourself with your profound ignorance of firearms any more.

I think you just gave him PTSD


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(06-22-2016 05:46 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(06-22-2016 05:16 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-22-2016 04:19 PM)shere khan Wrote:  In my lifetime a progressives have decided that they should legislate norms, mores, thought, speech and take away firearms. This has all happened before and it has never ended well. It was called National Socialism.

The Nazi's, since you went there, banned abortion and put LGBT folks in concentration camps. They also demonized foreigners.

Is Trump a Nazi? No. Is he deeply troubling to supporters of personal liberty? Yep.

You have all the free speech you want. You don't have a right to a tax deduction to promulgate that speech.

The GOP, for decades, legislated all manner of norms, including the kind of sex that consenting unrelated adults can have in the privacy of their own bedrooms. They also, currently, want to tell people what gender roles they must comport to while in public.

Sure, I don't want any moron to have a gun that fires 50 rounds a minute without them having a damn good reason for having it.

So you are calling for the outright ban of all guns? I ask because 50 rounds per minute can be accomplished with a circa 1897 Webley Revolver and speedloaders.....in other words 19th century technology.

Perhaps the best thing you can do at this point is admit you have no idea WTF you are talking about and bow out of the conversation before you embarrass yourself with your profound ignorance of firearms any more.

You can ban all weapons sold that way and put people who modify such weapons in prison for long sentences.

Nuclear bomb technology is 70 years old. Doesn't mean we should just let any idiot buy one with less scrutiny than buying a pack of smokes.

(06-22-2016 06:46 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-22-2016 05:46 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(06-22-2016 05:16 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-22-2016 04:19 PM)shere khan Wrote:  In my lifetime a progressives have decided that they should legislate norms, mores, thought, speech and take away firearms. This has all happened before and it has never ended well. It was called National Socialism.

The Nazi's, since you went there, banned abortion and put LGBT folks in concentration camps. They also demonized foreigners.

Is Trump a Nazi? No. Is he deeply troubling to supporters of personal liberty? Yep.

You have all the free speech you want. You don't have a right to a tax deduction to promulgate that speech.

The GOP, for decades, legislated all manner of norms, including the kind of sex that consenting unrelated adults can have in the privacy of their own bedrooms. They also, currently, want to tell people what gender roles they must comport to while in public.

Sure, I don't want any moron to have a gun that fires 50 rounds a minute without them having a damn good reason for having it.

So you are calling for the outright ban of all guns? I ask because 50 rounds per minute can be accomplished with a circa 1897 Webley Revolver and speedloaders.....in other words 19th century technology.

Perhaps the best thing you can do at this point is admit you have no idea WTF you are talking about and bow out of the conversation before you embarrass yourself with your profound ignorance of firearms any more.

You can ban all weapons sold that way and put people who modify such weapons in prison for long sentences.

Nuclear bomb technology is 70 years old. Doesn't mean we should just let any idiot buy one with less scrutiny than buying a pack of smokes.

Alrighty then. It appears you just want to expose the fact that you are an ignorant fool who doesn't have a clue what they are talking about. I'm more than happy to expose your ignorance to both the board and the world.

50 rounds a minute isn't really that high of a rate of fire. Give me a week to practice and the ammunition (because finding .22lr ammo is like finding a needle in a haystack) and I'll easily exceed that with my Ruger 10/22 .22lr squirrel gun.

It's quite obvious that like much you post on here you simply pulled the 50 rounds per minute figure out of your ass and not some scientific criteria. In other words you are just basing your stance on ignorant emotion and nothing else.


Now that I have shattered that part of your ban plan....let's talk calibers since you listed it above as one of the two criteria for a ban. At which caliber are you calling for a ban?

(06-22-2016 06:59 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(06-22-2016 06:46 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-22-2016 05:46 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(06-22-2016 05:16 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-22-2016 04:19 PM)shere khan Wrote:  In my lifetime a progressives have decided that they should legislate norms, mores, thought, speech and take away firearms. This has all happened before and it has never ended well. It was called National Socialism.

The Nazi's, since you went there, banned abortion and put LGBT folks in concentration camps. They also demonized foreigners.

Is Trump a Nazi? No. Is he deeply troubling to supporters of personal liberty? Yep.

You have all the free speech you want. You don't have a right to a tax deduction to promulgate that speech.

The GOP, for decades, legislated all manner of norms, including the kind of sex that consenting unrelated adults can have in the privacy of their own bedrooms. They also, currently, want to tell people what gender roles they must comport to while in public.

Sure, I don't want any moron to have a gun that fires 50 rounds a minute without them having a damn good reason for having it.

So you are calling for the outright ban of all guns? I ask because 50 rounds per minute can be accomplished with a circa 1897 Webley Revolver and speedloaders.....in other words 19th century technology.

Perhaps the best thing you can do at this point is admit you have no idea WTF you are talking about and bow out of the conversation before you embarrass yourself with your profound ignorance of firearms any more.

You can ban all weapons sold that way and put people who modify such weapons in prison for long sentences.

Nuclear bomb technology is 70 years old. Doesn't mean we should just let any idiot buy one with less scrutiny than buying a pack of smokes.

Alrighty then. It appears you just want to expose the fact that you are an ignorant fool who doesn't have a clue what they are talking about. I'm more than happy to expose your ignorance to both the board and the world.

50 rounds a minute isn't really that high of a rate of fire. Give me a week to practice and the ammunition (because finding .22lr ammo is like finding a needle in a haystack) and I'll easily exceed that with my Ruger 10/22 .22lr squirrel gun.

It's quite obvious that like much you post on here you simply pulled the 50 rounds per minute figure out of your ass and not some scientific criteria. In other words you are just basing your stance on ignorant emotion and nothing else.


Now that I have shattered that part of your ban plan....let's talk calibers since you listed it above as one of the two criteria for a ban. At which caliber are you calling for a ban?

Shattered? I don't see your point. You simply point out that there are lot of weapons that need scrutiny. If a gun fires fast, then limit the damn clip. Make it a felony to modify a clip to hold more than that.

And yea, sure people can modify a clip...but some won't or can't.

(06-22-2016 02:43 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(06-22-2016 02:22 PM)shere khan Wrote:  An Ar 15 is just a military looking semi automatic 22cal isnt it? I mean the cal is a much bigger deal than how the gun looks on the outside.

More i think about it the whole what kinda gun thing is dumb. A basic understanding of chemistry and a box of nails is more deadly than any gun

Pretty much. It's more powerful than a .22LR by a lot, but it's still just a .22 caliber bullet.

It's pretty much a case of the fact that the gun looks "scary".

It's a 22 with some stuff on it that makes it look cool and "military"-like

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(06-22-2016 07:04 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-22-2016 06:59 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(06-22-2016 06:46 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-22-2016 05:46 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(06-22-2016 05:16 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  The Nazi's, since you went there, banned abortion and put LGBT folks in concentration camps. They also demonized foreigners.

Is Trump a Nazi? No. Is he deeply troubling to supporters of personal liberty? Yep.

You have all the free speech you want. You don't have a right to a tax deduction to promulgate that speech.

The GOP, for decades, legislated all manner of norms, including the kind of sex that consenting unrelated adults can have in the privacy of their own bedrooms. They also, currently, want to tell people what gender roles they must comport to while in public.

Sure, I don't want any moron to have a gun that fires 50 rounds a minute without them having a damn good reason for having it.

So you are calling for the outright ban of all guns? I ask because 50 rounds per minute can be accomplished with a circa 1897 Webley Revolver and speedloaders.....in other words 19th century technology.

Perhaps the best thing you can do at this point is admit you have no idea WTF you are talking about and bow out of the conversation before you embarrass yourself with your profound ignorance of firearms any more.

You can ban all weapons sold that way and put people who modify such weapons in prison for long sentences.

Nuclear bomb technology is 70 years old. Doesn't mean we should just let any idiot buy one with less scrutiny than buying a pack of smokes.

Alrighty then. It appears you just want to expose the fact that you are an ignorant fool who doesn't have a clue what they are talking about. I'm more than happy to expose your ignorance to both the board and the world.

50 rounds a minute isn't really that high of a rate of fire. Give me a week to practice and the ammunition (because finding .22lr ammo is like finding a needle in a haystack) and I'll easily exceed that with my Ruger 10/22 .22lr squirrel gun.

It's quite obvious that like much you post on here you simply pulled the 50 rounds per minute figure out of your ass and not some scientific criteria. In other words you are just basing your stance on ignorant emotion and nothing else.


Now that I have shattered that part of your ban plan....let's talk calibers since you listed it above as one of the two criteria for a ban. At which caliber are you calling for a ban?

Shattered? I don't see your point. You simply point out that there are lot of weapons that need scrutiny. If a gun fires fast, then limit the damn clip. Make it a felony to modify a clip to hold more than that.

A Webley revolver holds six rounds at a time in a cylinder. It has no "clip".


(BTW to correct yet another example of your ignorance the term I think you are trying to use is magazine. A clip is used to load a magazine. A magazine holds the ammunition in battery for all firearms except breechloaders, muzzle loaders, and revolvers. Magazines can be either built in to the firearm or detachable. )

As I have already pointed out 50 rounds per minute isn't really all that fast and isn't based upon anything but your personal, uneducated opinion.


And ban magazine capacities then explain how you are going to stop New York reloads.


Still waiting on the point where you ban calibers. It should be fun making Swiss cheese out of that bunch of hogwash.