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(04-19-2016 04:26 PM)GullLake Wrote:  My post(s) made zero reference to either political party.

Excuse me?

(04-19-2016 04:01 PM)GullLake Wrote:  See what they have to say about this president and Mrs. Clinton.

Your idiocy knows no bounds.
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(04-19-2016 11:11 PM)Charm City Bronco Wrote:  
(04-19-2016 04:26 PM)GullLake Wrote:  My post(s) made zero reference to either political party.

Excuse me?

(04-19-2016 04:01 PM)GullLake Wrote:  See what they have to say about this president and Mrs. Clinton.

Your idiocy knows no bounds.

So where is the reference to either political party? 01-wingedeagle

You are making things up again. 05-nono

There are many Democrats who support, and are respectful, to the men and women serving in our armed forces. Our current president and Mrs. Clinton, however, are not among them.

I am done with you. 07-coffee3
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(04-20-2016 05:27 AM)GullLake Wrote:  [Image: dc12b0d8c4c8d3ce295ac5d284ac118912.png]
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(04-17-2016 05:19 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  Okay, we give up, what's the answer 03-lmfao

So far the tally is...

The events are good or "historically acceptable" based on response to events. Post 7 Barna and Post 12 Charm.

Not good ... Posts 2, 5 and 9 Dip. Post 13 and 16 Gull Lake.

Abstain: Post 15 BC Bronco

2 good
2 not good
1 abstain
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(04-17-2016 11:36 AM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear gobaseline,
During the early part of the nineteenth century, the British were impressing American sailors into their navy, with little action taken by the United States, other than protests to the British government.
During World War I the Germans sank the British liner Lusitania, with the loss of 124 American lives. Again, protests to the German government.
World War II saw the American destroyer Reuben James torpedoed and sunk by a German submarine. Again, protests to the German government.
These examples show that at the time of the above occurrences, the United States government did not feel it would be in our best interests to go after the aggressors. And there were a multiple number of reasons as to why not.

Context Ken. Your facts are correct.

However, your rationale as to why appears to not support your conclusion.

The links below point out that War resulted both with Britain in the war of 1812 and the US being formally and directly involved in WWI.

Are you implying that the current state of affairs and (non) action is aimed to get the US into a deeper conflict like a full fledged war?

https://www.marinersmuseum.org/sites/mic...08/08a.htm
- The first sentence .... Of all the causes for the War of 1812, the impressment of American sailors into the Royal Navy was the most important for many Americans.

The US was in it's adolescence. England, having quit the Revolutionary war because it was too costly not because the Americans won the war was bullying the US trying to feed the need for sailors as they tried to monitor their Empire. The US was hardly in a position to do anything of note. As evidenced by the war of 1812 was fought on American soil (burning of the White House) and not on British soil.

http://www.history.com/topics/world-war-i/lusitania
- Nearly two years would pass before the United States formally entered World War I, but the sinking of the Lusitania played a significant role in turning public opinion against Germany, both in the United States and abroad.

The US has economic interests that shaped their perspective to retaliate against Germany. Yesterday's "Apple". There was also an Isolationist mentality that prevailed. But as the article points out and as history bore out that non-action forced the US's hand to greater more destructive action later.
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Dear go baseline,
I mentioned the three examples to show at that time, not years later, that the United States had no intention to do anything other then to protest various countries actions.
This goes with the present situations, whether flyovers or whatever. Sabre rattling almost never solves problems between nations.
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Obama's refusal to address the psychotic bully's in the world with at least a show of strength has compromised our security over the years, much like his commitment to socialism has compromised our economy.

He does seem almost to have an agenda to weaken our country any way he can. With respect to the military, there is no need to even read between the lines. He has created policies, and promoted people based soley on political correctness, rather than what might make us the strongest and most prepared military. Budget has been cut to the extent that planes are grounded because they can't be repaired.

Overall, the men and women in the military have no respect for Obama, and no confidence that he will do what's right, or that he even cares. A couple years ago the graduating Cadets at West Point rufused to stand for him when he gave the keynote address.
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(04-24-2016 07:43 AM)brovol Wrote:  Budget has been cut to the extent that planes are grounded because they can't be repaired.

Complete garbage
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Valar morghūlis
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(04-24-2016 04:09 PM)Hiller4Hyz09 Wrote:  Valar morghÅ«lis

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(04-24-2016 07:43 AM)brovol Wrote:  Budget has been cut to the extent that planes are grounded because they can't be repaired.

Well? We're waiting...
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(04-26-2016 07:31 AM)Charm City Bronco Wrote:  
(04-24-2016 07:43 AM)brovol Wrote:  Budget has been cut to the extent that planes are grounded because they can't be repaired.

Well? We're waiting...

We are waiting, Charm.

YOU are the one who disputed his claim. It is YOUR responsibility to prove him wrong.

Right now, you can't back your "garbage" claim. What makes you think brovol's opinion is "garbage?"

Well? We're waiting...07-coffee3
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Shouldn't the burden of proof be on the person that asserted something?

At least that's how it works in science.....and everywhere...
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(04-26-2016 08:43 AM)ColinApocalypse Wrote:  Shouldn't the burden of proof be on the person that asserted something?

At least that's how it works in science.....and everywhere...

If you are going to insult and call something "garbage," than you better be able to back it.

Charm can't. 05-nono

It's all how you present and your tone. Your point would be taken if Charm had asked brovol in a respectful, honorable way, for background, or even presented facts disputing brovol's position. However, he chose the low road with an insult, and he can't back-himself-up with facts.

If you are gonna call someone out, and insult them, you'd better back it.
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(04-24-2016 07:43 AM)brovol Wrote:  Budget has been cut to the extent that planes are grounded because they can't be repaired.

Well? We're waiting...
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hows this?[
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(04-24-2016 07:43 AM)brovol Wrote:  Budget has been cut to the extent that planes are grounded because they can't be repaired.

Well? We're waiting...
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...or this[
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(04-26-2016 07:31 AM)Charm City Bronco Wrote:  
(04-24-2016 07:43 AM)brovol Wrote:  Budget has been cut to the extent that planes are grounded because they can't be repaired.

Well? We're waiting...

here is a good one
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(04-26-2016 09:53 AM)brovol Wrote:  
(04-26-2016 07:31 AM)Charm City Bronco Wrote:  
(04-24-2016 07:43 AM)brovol Wrote:  Budget has been cut to the extent that planes are grounded because they can't be repaired.

Well? We're waiting...

here is a good one

Looks like "checkmate" to me, brovol.

Good info. Good posts based on facts, reason and respect.

04-cheers
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Charm never says uncle, even if he is pinned.
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(04-26-2016 07:48 AM)GullLake Wrote:  YOU are the one who disputed his claim. It is YOUR responsibility to prove him wrong.

Bwhaha, you are a clown.
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