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(04-09-2016 12:27 AM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  
(04-09-2016 12:07 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  
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(04-08-2016 06:05 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  
(04-08-2016 05:38 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Bruce Springsteen just cancelled his Sunday show in Greensboro because of the law.

But bet your ass he would do a show in Cuba where being gay means actual persecution.

I like making up generalizations too

Not aware of what the word "bet" means?

hahahahaha okay. So I guess you'd probably lose your ass then.

On which part? you don't think western rockers would trip over themselves to have an Obama experience by playing a set in Havana?

I disagree. The Rolling Stones have announced a free concert in Cuba and I suspect if the boss had a chance he would do it as well.
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(04-08-2016 09:08 PM)Max Power Wrote:  That's ******* awesome. Springsteen rules.

Transgender people are 12 times more likely to get murdered than married. They don't need ignorant rightwing rednecks spreading misinformation about them being perverts or sex offenders to increase that number and make them feel even further ostracized. North Carolina deserves this and much more.

Yup. Tragic.

Murdered by whom? And to the male gay population generally, who are the biggest offenders against other gay males?

I'll take the answer off the air. 07-coffee3
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(04-08-2016 10:19 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  Tom,

Can gays get married in Cuba?
Can they get married in North Carolina / Mississippi?

Does McCrory/NC GOP/Phil Bryant support marriage equality? No.
Does Castro support marriage equality? No.

Don't even talk to me about Mississippi. Its worse than Cuba. Mississippi just passed legislation protecting harassment of LGBT persons. And allowing for discrimination in HEALTH CARE.
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No they didn't.
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Here are a couple of reactions from notable entertainers from my state regarding HB2. Chatham County Line (Bluegrass band) will no longer use our state flag as part of their stage backdrop. Rhyannan Giddens will continue to do shows here and work from within to help bring about change.
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(04-09-2016 01:29 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(04-08-2016 09:08 PM)Max Power Wrote:  That's ******* awesome. Springsteen rules.

Transgender people are 12 times more likely to get murdered than married. They don't need ignorant rightwing rednecks spreading misinformation about them being perverts or sex offenders to increase that number and make them feel even further ostracized. North Carolina deserves this and much more.

Yup. Tragic.

Murdered by whom? And to the male gay population generally, who are the biggest offenders against other gay males?

I'll take the answer off the air. 07-coffee3

They're all murdering each other? That's your theory?

I'm just saying try to put yourself in their shoes. It's not a life you'd trade for, and the government doesn't have to make it even harder.
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(04-09-2016 02:25 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(04-08-2016 10:19 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  Tom,

Can gays get married in Cuba?
Can they get married in North Carolina / Mississippi?

Does McCrory/NC GOP/Phil Bryant support marriage equality? No.
Does Castro support marriage equality? No.

Don't even talk to me about Mississippi. Its worse than Cuba. Mississippi just passed legislation protecting harassment of LGBT persons. And allowing for discrimination in HEALTH CARE.

Of course you cannot answer the question...

Can gays get married in Cuba? <---- The answer is no
Can they get married in North Carolina / Mississippi? <---- The answer is yes
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(04-09-2016 02:25 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(04-08-2016 10:19 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  Tom,

Can gays get married in Cuba?
Can they get married in North Carolina / Mississippi?

Does McCrory/NC GOP/Phil Bryant support marriage equality? No.
Does Castro support marriage equality? No.

Don't even talk to me about Mississippi. Its worse than Cuba. Mississippi just passed legislation protecting harassment of LGBT persons. And allowing for discrimination in HEALTH CARE.

Did you like your doctor and was able to keep your doctor? No
Did you like your hospital and was able to keep your hospital? No

Oh wait, Obama did that to you. Wrong thread.
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(04-09-2016 11:08 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(04-09-2016 02:25 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(04-08-2016 10:19 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  Tom,

Can gays get married in Cuba?
Can they get married in North Carolina / Mississippi?

Does McCrory/NC GOP/Phil Bryant support marriage equality? No.
Does Castro support marriage equality? No.

Don't even talk to me about Mississippi. Its worse than Cuba. Mississippi just passed legislation protecting harassment of LGBT persons. And allowing for discrimination in HEALTH CARE.

Did you like your doctor and was able to keep your doctor? No
Did you like your hospital and was able to keep your hospital? No

Oh wait, Obama did that to you. Wrong thread.

Not a problem in Dem states. Don't worry, we'll get single payer soon.

---

Meanwhile, in Mississippi SB 1523 allows medical providers to refuse to serve LGBT persons. There's no requirement that the person be provided that service in Mississippi or that Mississippi insurance companies be required to ensure that LGBT customers receive the same level of service as straight persons. The bill appears to protect those that harass LGBT persons in the provision of health care from any corrective action. The bill does mention that someone can't be refused 'emergency services'. But 'emergency services' is undefined. Does it mean only care for immediate, life threatening medical care? Who knows, but Mississippi is not known for interpreting things in LGBT persons' favor. Expecting a Transgendered or Gay person to have go to court to get needed or essential medical treatment is really the same as a denial of care. Who is going to pay for the lawyer to get medical care?

Seriously, it appears that if (when) a nurse or clerk or doctor decides to spew unwanted anti-Gay preaching at LGBT patients at Mississippi's government owned hospitals (or even hate speech, deliberate misgendering, etc.), that the hospital can't do anything to punish the offensive medical provider or even stop them from continuing to do so. Its open season on LGBT persons in Mississippi, especially in health care.

Well it will be if the courts don't rightfully strike this whole mess down before SB 1523 is implemented on July 1.
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More than a dozen conventions have been canceled as a result of HB2. The Asheville area c of c reported 500 jobs lost. It is getting worse and worse. Summer is just around the corner so we have to wonder how much this will affect tourism on the coast.

Legislators pushing through a poorly conceived, reactionary bill in a special session with no time for public input, legal advise, reflection or close examination is a recipe for disaster. The NC GOP are running my state into the ground.
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(04-09-2016 12:01 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(04-09-2016 11:08 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(04-09-2016 02:25 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(04-08-2016 10:19 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  Tom,

Can gays get married in Cuba?
Can they get married in North Carolina / Mississippi?

Does McCrory/NC GOP/Phil Bryant support marriage equality? No.
Does Castro support marriage equality? No.

Don't even talk to me about Mississippi. Its worse than Cuba. Mississippi just passed legislation protecting harassment of LGBT persons. And allowing for discrimination in HEALTH CARE.

Did you like your doctor and was able to keep your doctor? No
Did you like your hospital and was able to keep your hospital? No

Oh wait, Obama did that to you. Wrong thread.

Not a problem in Dem states. Don't worry, we'll get single payer soon.

---

Meanwhile, in Mississippi SB 1523 allows medical providers to refuse to serve LGBT persons. There's no requirement that the person be provided that service in Mississippi or that Mississippi insurance companies be required to ensure that LGBT customers receive the same level of service as straight persons. The bill appears to protect those that harass LGBT persons in the provision of health care from any corrective action. The bill does mention that someone can't be refused 'emergency services'. But 'emergency services' is undefined. Does it mean only care for immediate, life threatening medical care? Who knows, but Mississippi is not known for interpreting things in LGBT persons' favor. Expecting a Transgendered or Gay person to have go to court to get needed or essential medical treatment is really the same as a denial of care. Who is going to pay for the lawyer to get medical care?

Seriously, it appears that if (when) a nurse or clerk or doctor decides to spew unwanted anti-Gay preaching at LGBT patients at Mississippi's government owned hospitals (or even hate speech, deliberate misgendering, etc.), that the hospital can't do anything to punish the offensive medical provider or even stop them from continuing to do so. Its open season on LGBT persons in Mississippi, especially in health care.

Well it will be if the courts don't rightfully strike this whole mess down before SB 1523 is implemented on July 1.

And then instead of complaining because some hospital does t accept your insurance plan, you'll be complaining about how long it takes to see a doctor for your rectal tear.
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(04-09-2016 02:51 PM)dfarr Wrote:  
(04-09-2016 12:01 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(04-09-2016 11:08 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(04-09-2016 02:25 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(04-08-2016 10:19 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  Tom,

Can gays get married in Cuba?
Can they get married in North Carolina / Mississippi?

Does McCrory/NC GOP/Phil Bryant support marriage equality? No.
Does Castro support marriage equality? No.

Don't even talk to me about Mississippi. Its worse than Cuba. Mississippi just passed legislation protecting harassment of LGBT persons. And allowing for discrimination in HEALTH CARE.

Did you like your doctor and was able to keep your doctor? No
Did you like your hospital and was able to keep your hospital? No

Oh wait, Obama did that to you. Wrong thread.

Not a problem in Dem states. Don't worry, we'll get single payer soon.

---

Meanwhile, in Mississippi SB 1523 allows medical providers to refuse to serve LGBT persons. There's no requirement that the person be provided that service in Mississippi or that Mississippi insurance companies be required to ensure that LGBT customers receive the same level of service as straight persons. The bill appears to protect those that harass LGBT persons in the provision of health care from any corrective action. The bill does mention that someone can't be refused 'emergency services'. But 'emergency services' is undefined. Does it mean only care for immediate, life threatening medical care? Who knows, but Mississippi is not known for interpreting things in LGBT persons' favor. Expecting a Transgendered or Gay person to have go to court to get needed or essential medical treatment is really the same as a denial of care. Who is going to pay for the lawyer to get medical care?

Seriously, it appears that if (when) a nurse or clerk or doctor decides to spew unwanted anti-Gay preaching at LGBT patients at Mississippi's government owned hospitals (or even hate speech, deliberate misgendering, etc.), that the hospital can't do anything to punish the offensive medical provider or even stop them from continuing to do so. Its open season on LGBT persons in Mississippi, especially in health care.

Well it will be if the courts don't rightfully strike this whole mess down before SB 1523 is implemented on July 1.

And then instead of complaining because some hospital does t accept your insurance plan, you'll be complaining about how long it takes to see a doctor for your rectal tear.

I have two words for Tom; death panels.
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(04-09-2016 02:51 PM)dfarr Wrote:  
(04-09-2016 12:01 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(04-09-2016 11:08 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(04-09-2016 02:25 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(04-08-2016 10:19 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  Tom,

Can gays get married in Cuba?
Can they get married in North Carolina / Mississippi?

Does McCrory/NC GOP/Phil Bryant support marriage equality? No.
Does Castro support marriage equality? No.

Don't even talk to me about Mississippi. Its worse than Cuba. Mississippi just passed legislation protecting harassment of LGBT persons. And allowing for discrimination in HEALTH CARE.

Did you like your doctor and was able to keep your doctor? No
Did you like your hospital and was able to keep your hospital? No

Oh wait, Obama did that to you. Wrong thread.

Not a problem in Dem states. Don't worry, we'll get single payer soon.

---

Meanwhile, in Mississippi SB 1523 allows medical providers to refuse to serve LGBT persons. There's no requirement that the person be provided that service in Mississippi or that Mississippi insurance companies be required to ensure that LGBT customers receive the same level of service as straight persons. The bill appears to protect those that harass LGBT persons in the provision of health care from any corrective action. The bill does mention that someone can't be refused 'emergency services'. But 'emergency services' is undefined. Does it mean only care for immediate, life threatening medical care? Who knows, but Mississippi is not known for interpreting things in LGBT persons' favor. Expecting a Transgendered or Gay person to have go to court to get needed or essential medical treatment is really the same as a denial of care. Who is going to pay for the lawyer to get medical care?

Seriously, it appears that if (when) a nurse or clerk or doctor decides to spew unwanted anti-Gay preaching at LGBT patients at Mississippi's government owned hospitals (or even hate speech, deliberate misgendering, etc.), that the hospital can't do anything to punish the offensive medical provider or even stop them from continuing to do so. Its open season on LGBT persons in Mississippi, especially in health care.

Well it will be if the courts don't rightfully strike this whole mess down before SB 1523 is implemented on July 1.

And then instead of complaining because some hospital does t accept your insurance plan, you'll be complaining about how long it takes to see a doctor for your rectal tear.

Gee whiz, I can't imagine why some people might come to the conclusion that SB 1523 would create open season of LGBT persons seeking medical care. You are really a piece of work.

Do you trade in anything but insults? Just trading in erroneous stereotypes about LGBT persons. You don't rebut, but just insult.

You and your buddies can say whatever you want in here but that won't change the narrative that is taking place in the real world. North Carolina is going to pay a terrible price for HB2. Mississippi will pay a terrible price for SB 1523. McCrory is going to be tossed out on his rear end. Phil Bryant won't. Its Mississippi. But the courts will probably toss both these laws out in quick order.

When was the last time you had an idea?
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(04-09-2016 03:15 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(04-09-2016 02:51 PM)dfarr Wrote:  
(04-09-2016 12:01 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(04-09-2016 11:08 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(04-09-2016 02:25 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Does McCrory/NC GOP/Phil Bryant support marriage equality? No.
Does Castro support marriage equality? No.

Don't even talk to me about Mississippi. Its worse than Cuba. Mississippi just passed legislation protecting harassment of LGBT persons. And allowing for discrimination in HEALTH CARE.

Did you like your doctor and was able to keep your doctor? No
Did you like your hospital and was able to keep your hospital? No

Oh wait, Obama did that to you. Wrong thread.

Not a problem in Dem states. Don't worry, we'll get single payer soon.

---

Meanwhile, in Mississippi SB 1523 allows medical providers to refuse to serve LGBT persons. There's no requirement that the person be provided that service in Mississippi or that Mississippi insurance companies be required to ensure that LGBT customers receive the same level of service as straight persons. The bill appears to protect those that harass LGBT persons in the provision of health care from any corrective action. The bill does mention that someone can't be refused 'emergency services'. But 'emergency services' is undefined. Does it mean only care for immediate, life threatening medical care? Who knows, but Mississippi is not known for interpreting things in LGBT persons' favor. Expecting a Transgendered or Gay person to have go to court to get needed or essential medical treatment is really the same as a denial of care. Who is going to pay for the lawyer to get medical care?

Seriously, it appears that if (when) a nurse or clerk or doctor decides to spew unwanted anti-Gay preaching at LGBT patients at Mississippi's government owned hospitals (or even hate speech, deliberate misgendering, etc.), that the hospital can't do anything to punish the offensive medical provider or even stop them from continuing to do so. Its open season on LGBT persons in Mississippi, especially in health care.

Well it will be if the courts don't rightfully strike this whole mess down before SB 1523 is implemented on July 1.

And then instead of complaining because some hospital does t accept your insurance plan, you'll be complaining about how long it takes to see a doctor for your rectal tear.

I have two words for Tom; death panels.

Any comments on SB 1523 or HB2? Seriously, dude.
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(04-09-2016 02:25 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(04-08-2016 10:19 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  Tom,

Can gays get married in Cuba?
Can they get married in North Carolina / Mississippi?

Does McCrory/NC GOP/Phil Bryant support marriage equality? No.
Does Castro support marriage equality? No.

Don't even talk to me about Mississippi. Its worse than Cuba. Mississippi just passed legislation protecting harassment of LGBT persons. And allowing for discrimination in HEALTH CARE.

That would be wrong if true (and would probably fail in a court). But I suspect you are just gullible and believe everything you hear. Got any links?
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(04-06-2016 10:36 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Emotions trump reality. Lies win over truth. Screwed up liberal asylum we live in.

I had almost no opinion of this mess, but I had to say something to this. The majority of ALL political subjects is emotional, including the conservative portion of this one. Don't act like this is a product of cold-blooded analysis.

I can completely understand, and do agree, that we don't want perverts going into bathrooms and flashing, assaulting, etc little girls. But there isn't evidence other than our own "common sense" (which ends up being hokum more than we care to admit). Trans women have been using the women's bathroom for years and I've personally never seen a case scroll by with there being an assault of some sort.

What has a higher chance of happening: A trans woman being assaulted in the men's bathroom or a trans woman assaulting someone in the women's?

Which would cause more anxiety for us "normals": A trans man in the men's bathroom or a trans man in the womens?
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(04-09-2016 04:38 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  
(04-06-2016 10:36 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Emotions trump reality. Lies win over truth. Screwed up liberal asylum we live in.

I had almost no opinion of this mess, but I had to say something to this. The majority of ALL political subjects is emotional, including the conservative portion of this one. Don't act like this is a product of cold-blooded analysis.

I can completely understand, and do agree, that we don't want perverts going into bathrooms and flashing, assaulting, etc little girls. But there isn't evidence other than our own "common sense" (which ends up being hokum more than we care to admit). Trans women have been using the women's bathroom for years and I've personally never seen a case scroll by with there being an assault of some sort.

What has a higher chance of happening: A trans woman being assaulted in the men's bathroom or a trans woman assaulting someone in the women's?

Which would cause more anxiety for us "normals": A trans man in the men's bathroom or a trans man in the womens?

Its not JUST about assaults. Its an invasion of privacy.
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(04-09-2016 04:42 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(04-09-2016 04:38 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  
(04-06-2016 10:36 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Emotions trump reality. Lies win over truth. Screwed up liberal asylum we live in.

I had almost no opinion of this mess, but I had to say something to this. The majority of ALL political subjects is emotional, including the conservative portion of this one. Don't act like this is a product of cold-blooded analysis.

I can completely understand, and do agree, that we don't want perverts going into bathrooms and flashing, assaulting, etc little girls. But there isn't evidence other than our own "common sense" (which ends up being hokum more than we care to admit). Trans women have been using the women's bathroom for years and I've personally never seen a case scroll by with there being an assault of some sort.

What has a higher chance of happening: A trans woman being assaulted in the men's bathroom or a trans woman assaulting someone in the women's?

Which would cause more anxiety for us "normals": A trans man in the men's bathroom or a trans man in the womens?

Its not JUST about assaults. Its an invasion of privacy.

A likely story if our GOP was big on privacy in the first place.

Again, what would people feel is a bigger invasion of privacy: A trans man in a women's bathroom or a trans man in the men's? Or the other ways around?
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(04-09-2016 03:59 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  1. Meanwhile, in Mississippi SB 1523 allows medical providers to refuse to serve LGBT persons.

Wrong. The law does not say that, and explicitly says the opposite. What the law says is that they can not be forced to CHOP OFF A DICK OR TRANSFORM A VA-GINA INTO A PE-NIS if it violates their religious beliefs. Sorry to be so blunt, but apparently blunt is what you need if you think the law says anything but that. If you believe the law says anyting but that, point it out in the law. Dont come on here with your LGBT talking points and try to talk dumb to people who can think and read for themselves.

Quote:There's no requirement that the person be provided that service in Mississippi or that Mississippi insurance companies be required to ensure that LGBT customers receive the same level of service as straight persons.

Actually, thats exactly what the law says. And also what the law says is that a surgeon doesnt have to perform transgender operations. Since a "straight" person isnt going to a surgeon to have his dick transformed into something resembling a va-gina, then what you have said is wrong. If a transgender breaks their arm they will receive the same care as a straight person, and even states so in the law. If they break their arm, and want the doctor to put their arm in a cast and chop off their pe-nis at the same time, the doctor doesnt have to do that. Clear??


Quote:The bill appears to protect those that harass LGBT persons in the provision of health care from any corrective action.

Link?

Quote:The bill does mention that someone can't be refused 'emergency services'. But 'emergency services' is undefined. Does it mean only care for immediate, life threatening medical care?

Thats what emergency services usually means. I know uninsured libturds would just show up to the ER for a sore throat, but emergency services mean life threatening. In other words, dont show up to the ER and claim you are going to die if your pe-nis isnt transformed into a va-gina.


Quote:Who knows, but Mississippi is not known for interpreting things in LGBT persons' favor.

Link

Quote:Expecting a Transgendered or Gay person to have go to court to get needed or essential medical treatment is really the same as a denial of care. Who is going to pay for the lawyer to get medical care?

Show me in this law where anyone can deny anyone medical care, sans transgender operations.

Quote:Seriously, it appears that if (when) a nurse or clerk or doctor decides to spew unwanted anti-Gay preaching at LGBT patients at Mississippi's government owned hospitals (or even hate speech, deliberate misgendering, etc.), that the hospital can't do anything to punish the offensive medical provider or even stop them from continuing to do so. Its open season on LGBT persons in Mississippi, especially in health care.

You simply dont want to hear the truth. it is a medical persons RESPONSIBILITY to point out a life style that is DANGEROUS to one's health. If cross dresser comes in with herpes of the mouth, and says its because he likes to go to bars and blow random dudes, it is the doctors responsibility to let them know that this is a health risk. (Because ,obviously, the guy hasnt figured it out yet.) Just like when some guy shows up complaining of breathing difficulties, and says he smokes 4 packs per day.

Quote:Expecting a Transgendered or Gay person to have go to court to get needed or essential medical treatment is really the same as a denial of care. Who is going to pay for the lawyer to get medical care?

Even if this was true, the issue you have is that you denying someone else's CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT of freedom of religion. A right that is in the consitution is going to trump a right that is not directly spelled out in the constitution.
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RE: North Carolina's Anti LGBT law
(04-09-2016 04:51 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  
(04-09-2016 04:42 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(04-09-2016 04:38 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  
(04-06-2016 10:36 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Emotions trump reality. Lies win over truth. Screwed up liberal asylum we live in.

I had almost no opinion of this mess, but I had to say something to this. The majority of ALL political subjects is emotional, including the conservative portion of this one. Don't act like this is a product of cold-blooded analysis.

I can completely understand, and do agree, that we don't want perverts going into bathrooms and flashing, assaulting, etc little girls. But there isn't evidence other than our own "common sense" (which ends up being hokum more than we care to admit). Trans women have been using the women's bathroom for years and I've personally never seen a case scroll by with there being an assault of some sort.

What has a higher chance of happening: A trans woman being assaulted in the men's bathroom or a trans woman assaulting someone in the women's?

Which would cause more anxiety for us "normals": A trans man in the men's bathroom or a trans man in the womens?

Its not JUST about assaults. Its an invasion of privacy.

A likely story if our GOP was big on privacy in the first place.

Again, what would people feel is a bigger invasion of privacy: A trans man in a women's bathroom or a trans man in the men's? Or the other ways around?

You gotta dick use the men's bathroom or locker room. Private companies have to deal with this also. Planet Fitness had an issue with this last year. You can't have a tranny with a dick getting naked and showering in the ladies locker room.
04-09-2016 05:04 PM
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