The game must have so embarrassing the Toledo Men's Basketball Twitter account was never updated during the game.

While I am very disappointed in the end result, I do not regret for one second having hope and believing in the men's basketball team. After all of the disappointments, when the time comes and the Rockets go to the Big Dance, it will be so rewarding for me as a fan. Go Rockets!

(03-07-2016 11:38 PM)RocketBBallFan Wrote:  While I am very disappointed in the end result, I do not regret for one second having hope and believing in the men's basketball team. After all of the disappointments, when the time comes and the Rockets go to the Big Dance, it will be so rewarding for me as a fan. Go Rockets!

Let's hope we all live long enough to see it. At best, I think we're 3 more seasons away now, when Sanford and Navigato are seniors...and that's assuming TK recruits well in the meantime. Having a bunch of guys coming back from a team that finished 1-7 and didn't look particularly good doing it doesn't give me warm fuzzies for the very near future. Doesn't mean I'm not a fan.

Welp. Garber will have to develop a midrange J in the off season. He shoots a high percentage, but doesn't take a thing but layups. He plays good enough defense, that with another big he will be fine.
Lauf has to be a decent shooter next season.
Sanford has to be a lot better at 3's for the amount he is taking.
Navi has to get stronger.
Stuck and on Jon Jon need to keep developing.
I hope the other 3 freshman keep developing and can contribute to pick up slack for the absence of Boothe. We won't be picked last, but we won't be favorite's for anything either. EMU will be very very good.

(03-07-2016 09:43 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 09:35 PM)San Giuseppe Jato Rocket Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 08:40 PM)adunifon Wrote:  Wonder how much that tarp costs that covers their whole
Upper deck.

Their dignity.

I guess when your team goes 0-3 all you are left with is making snide remarks about the other teams tarps congrats

(03-08-2016 04:53 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 09:43 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 09:35 PM)San Giuseppe Jato Rocket Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 08:40 PM)adunifon Wrote:  Wonder how much that tarp costs that covers their whole
Upper deck.

Their dignity.

I guess when your team goes 0-3 all you are left with is making snide remarks about the other teams tarps congrats

Not true. We can also make snide remarks about your banner debacle, attendance, your refusal to use appropriate punctuation and football. But we didn't because we're better than that.

(03-08-2016 07:48 AM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(03-08-2016 04:53 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 09:43 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 09:35 PM)San Giuseppe Jato Rocket Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 08:40 PM)adunifon Wrote:  Wonder how much that tarp costs that covers their whole
Upper deck.

Their dignity.

I guess when your team goes 0-3 all you are left with is making snide remarks about the other teams tarps congrats

Not true. We can also make snide remarks about your banner debacle, attendance and football.

Eastern Michigan has a football team?

(03-08-2016 02:44 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Welp. Garber will have to develop a midrange J in the off season. He shoots a high percentage, but doesn't take a thing but layups. He plays good enough defense, that with another big he will be fine.
Lauf has to be a decent shooter next season.
Sanford has to be a lot better at 3's for the amount he is taking.
Navi has to get stronger.
Stuck and on Jon Jon need to keep developing.
I hope the other 3 freshman keep developing and can contribute to pick up slack for the absence of Boothe. We won't be picked last, but we won't be favorite's for anything either. EMU will be very very good.

I keep thinking Adway is going to be a major contributor. He's long and appears reasonably athletic. If he can be a solid defender we'll be all right up front with four bigs who can play multiple positions. Backcourt play is very concerning. No one is really a pg but more concerning is that no one is really quick except Jon Jon. We need to recruit some more Pearsons and Stempins, guys who were not only athletic but could play the game. I guess there's only so many of those out there- it looks to me like we're moving toward a CMU model next year with the O predicated on three pointers. There is no proven inside threat.

Random thoughts;

I wonder, since they used so little of the bench, did they became fatigued as the season went on?

As many have said, they don't have a pure point guard, nor a good one. Stuckey was at best, serviceable, but that's about it. They must fill that void, or, if Stuckey is the man, he has a lot of work to do over the off season. I'm kind of disappointed in him. I thought he had the potential to be a "leader" this year. Nope, not even close.

Which brings me to the "leader." Booth is our leader, best player, and heart and soul of this team. But they need this not from the center position, but from the front court. Jon Jon didn't step into the roll. Someone needed to fill the shoes of Juice, or better yet, we needed to find another Ryan Pierson - and we don't have one. The front court controls the game, both with the ball, intensity, and heart. Nobody stepped up. This much change next year or they will be another under-performing team that will give us more disappointment.

I still think Coach K (and I like him) wasted a bunch of freshmen in a season that was to be bad anyway. These guys should have had more playing time all year. Win now at all costs was a mistake, and one that Coach K might realize now that it is too late. Some of this falls on coaching, and that's on Coach K.

Mark Beier will be missed. And how in the Sam hell can he be by himself on the broadcast in a MAC tournament game. They need a PR department. If they have one, they should be fired.

If by chance they get a bid somewhere - turn it down - send the guys home. They need to re-group.

Sad, sad, season.

(03-08-2016 04:53 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 09:43 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 09:35 PM)San Giuseppe Jato Rocket Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 08:40 PM)adunifon Wrote:  Wonder how much that tarp costs that covers their whole
Upper deck.

Their dignity.

I guess when your team goes 0-3 all you are left with is making snide remarks about the other teams tarps congrats

I hate to agree with EMU79, but I think that he (or she) makes a valid point. If you can't win on the court, it seems rather trite to try to turn the conversation to attendance.

(03-08-2016 08:32 AM)Screwball Wrote:  Random thoughts;

I wonder, since they used so little of the bench, did they became fatigued as the season went on?

The same thought crossed my mind. Early in the conference schedule the Rockets played some (most) games at a very high level and seemed capable of beating anyone in the league on any given night before the wheels came off their wagon and they lost six of the final seven games. This is the kind of collapse one might expect from a team who lost crucial players to injury, which was clearly not the case for the Rockets, so their near total collapse at the end of the season is a mystery to me.

(03-08-2016 07:50 AM)bcunn3128 Wrote:  

(03-08-2016 07:48 AM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(03-08-2016 04:53 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 09:43 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 09:35 PM)San Giuseppe Jato Rocket Wrote:  Their dignity.

I guess when your team goes 0-3 all you are left with is making snide remarks about the other teams tarps congrats

Not true. We can also make snide remarks about your banner debacle, attendance and football.

Eastern Michigan has a football team?

Toledo has a basketball team?

(03-08-2016 07:48 AM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(03-08-2016 04:53 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 09:43 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 09:35 PM)San Giuseppe Jato Rocket Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 08:40 PM)adunifon Wrote:  Wonder how much that tarp costs that covers their whole
Upper deck.

Their dignity.

I guess when your team goes 0-3 all you are left with is making snide remarks about the other teams tarps congrats

Not true. We can also make snide remarks about your banner debacle, attendance, your refusal to use appropriate punctuation and football. But we didn't because we're better than that.

Well you're not better than 0-3 against EMU in men's hoops tarp or no tarp, attendance, and if you want punctuation here you go: 0-3!

It's all pretty much the same as last season, the season before that, the season before that, etc. - until you get to the Cross years. From there it was easy to see improvement. That is not a good measuring stick to use and giving credit to Kowalchek (never looked at how to spell his name) is worn out. The only coach that could not have improved from that is - Cross.

You also have to wonder if the new president is looking critically at the performance of the athletic director. Classroom performance looks to be solid, so the coaches can be commended on the emphasis placed there along with how they recruit players. I like that aspect - a lot. I also want to see the University gain more respect for it's academics. but, the most visible part of the University is the athletics. The performance has been disappointing. Football did very well, but also underachieved in conference.

It'll be interesting to see if there are signs of support - or an indication that things need to improve.

(03-08-2016 09:34 AM)MotoRocket Wrote:  You also have to wonder if the new president is looking critically at the performance of the athletic director. Classroom performance looks to be solid, so the coaches can be commended on the emphasis placed there along with how they recruit players. I like that aspect - a lot. I also want to see the University gain more respect for it's academics. but, the most visible part of the University is the athletics. The performance has been disappointing. Football did very well, but also underachieved in conference.

It'll be interesting to see if there are signs of support - or an indication that things need to improve.

For example: Does MOB give TK a contract extension after this season?

(03-08-2016 10:16 AM)bcunn3128 Wrote:  

(03-08-2016 09:34 AM)MotoRocket Wrote:  You also have to wonder if the new president is looking critically at the performance of the athletic director. Classroom performance looks to be solid, so the coaches can be commended on the emphasis placed there along with how they recruit players. I like that aspect - a lot. I also want to see the University gain more respect for it's academics. but, the most visible part of the University is the athletics. The performance has been disappointing. Football did very well, but also underachieved in conference.

It'll be interesting to see if there are signs of support - or an indication that things need to improve.

For example: Does MOB give TK a contract extension after this season?

I'm wondering more if there is an indication of support for the AD. He's been at the helm a long time - and I'm curious if the body of work is still solid. Who was there before him as AD? Did he take over from Bohl?

(03-08-2016 10:16 AM)bcunn3128 Wrote:  

(03-08-2016 09:34 AM)MotoRocket Wrote:  You also have to wonder if the new president is looking critically at the performance of the athletic director. Classroom performance looks to be solid, so the coaches can be commended on the emphasis placed there along with how they recruit players. I like that aspect - a lot. I also want to see the University gain more respect for it's academics. but, the most visible part of the University is the athletics. The performance has been disappointing. Football did very well, but also underachieved in conference.

It'll be interesting to see if there are signs of support - or an indication that things need to improve.

For example: Does MOB give TK a contract extension after this season?

About a contract extension, I talked with Mike O'Brien a couple weeks ago about the length of Kowalczyk's contract. His reply was " Tod contract extends to 2020, just Like Cullop's contract."

(03-08-2016 07:48 AM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(03-08-2016 04:53 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 09:43 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 09:35 PM)San Giuseppe Jato Rocket Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 08:40 PM)adunifon Wrote:  Wonder how much that tarp costs that covers their whole
Upper deck.

Their dignity.

I guess when your team goes 0-3 all you are left with is making snide remarks about the other teams tarps congrats

Not true. We can also make snide remarks about your banner debacle, attendance, your refusal to use appropriate punctuation and football. But we didn't because we're better than that.

My favorite was the cement block wall entry by their football team.

In short, EMU DESERVES a better fan-base.