Mimi
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RE: Pastner Says We Should Contact Bowen
Very embarrassing.
We have a reputation for being rubes because so many are...rubes.
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tiger2000
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RE: Pastner Says We Should Contact Bowen
(01-05-2016 04:12 PM)Mimi Wrote: Very embarrassing.
We have a reputation for being rubes because so many are...rubes.
How many times have I told you not to interrupt when adults are talking?
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Sundanceuiuc
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RE: Pastner Says We Should Contact Bowen
(01-05-2016 03:50 PM)tiger2000 Wrote: ... There's something to be said for earning each rung on the ladder - both in terms of experience and confidence gained through success and failure. I think that is the fundamental problem with Pastner - you learn how to motivate, how to relate to people, what works, what doesn't, and develop your own style of leadership. Move up too quickly and you miss out on those little steps of experience that make you good at being a leader.
He may yet develop into a good coach - being fired from here may be the best thing that ever happened to him.
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Belicheck sucked with Cleveland, is awesome at New England.
Lots of professionals of other stripes get promoted too fast, crash and burn, and come back stronger to be more successful.
Failure is a great motivator and teacher. I speak from personal experience. Architects (and most professions actually) learn from mistakes. I'm no different.
It takes time.
I have NO doubt Pastner will be a successful HC one day. Just not sure it will be here.
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01-05-2016 04:24 PM |
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tiger1016
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RE: Pastner Says We Should Contact Bowen
(01-04-2016 03:14 PM)Antonio5fan Wrote: It wasn't so much the sheer number of calls but 5 players foul out on one team and none on the other. Anyone ever hear of a whole 1st team fouling out and 3 more with 4 fouls. What would have happened if there were only 4 players left on the Tigers side? They would just quit calling fouls? Stop the game? I've never heard of a ref heading over to the scorer's table to see how many players were left available to play. Maybe Damon could suit up. The ridiculous calls they made or didn't make were obvious to a 10 year ON BOTH ENDS. One was when Ricky reached around a player and pulled him to the floor. It looked like a football tackle. I would say the same thing had the Tigers won the game. It's the worst called game I've ever seen.
SC had 2 players with 4 fouls - 2 of their bigs btw and one of them was Carrera - before any of our guys got in foul trouble. This was around the 8-9 min mark and then they went zone. We stopped driving like we were earlier and they kept driving. They got fouls called cuz they were relentlessly driving the ball instead of jacking up shots like we were when they went zone. That's when the fouls started piling up against us.
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Antonio5fan
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RE: Pastner Says We Should Contact Bowen
Kava Tiger I respect you're opinion but you left it a little short with "just because". Can you expound on how the stupid things the PLAYERS do are Josh's fault. Is it lack of preparation, under development when a senior commits a dumb foul over and over. I don't see Duke, Ky, Kansas players doing that stuff as seniors, excluding Ky players don't get to be seniors.
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01-05-2016 04:40 PM |
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Brother Bluto
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RE: Pastner Says We Should Contact Bowen
(01-05-2016 04:24 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote: (01-05-2016 03:50 PM)tiger2000 Wrote: ... There's something to be said for earning each rung on the ladder - both in terms of experience and confidence gained through success and failure. I think that is the fundamental problem with Pastner - you learn how to motivate, how to relate to people, what works, what doesn't, and develop your own style of leadership. Move up too quickly and you miss out on those little steps of experience that make you good at being a leader.
He may yet develop into a good coach - being fired from here may be the best thing that ever happened to him.
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Belicheck sucked with Cleveland, is awesome at New England.
Lots of professionals of other stripes get promoted too fast, crash and burn, and come back stronger to be more successful.
Failure is a great motivator and teacher. I speak from personal experience. Architects (and most professions actually) learn from mistakes. I'm no different.
It takes time.
I have NO doubt Pastner will be a successful HC one day. Just not sure it will be here.
Actually Bellichek wasn't as bad as everyone makes him out to be in Cleveland. I watched a special on the 95 Browns. Modell screw that whole deal up with the move. He was about to turn it around.
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Tiger Greg
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RE: Pastner Says We Should Contact Bowen
With some trepidation, I fear Pastner seems to be in the same boat as Belichick.
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01-05-2016 05:04 PM |
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HoopDreams
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RE: Pastner Says We Should Contact Bowen
LMAO
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01-05-2016 05:05 PM |
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bluecrew
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RE: Pastner Says We Should Contact Bowen
Bahahahahahahaha. Holy @#$%@. We should just lock the thread on that one.
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01-05-2016 05:08 PM |
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Brother Bluto
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RE: Pastner Says We Should Contact Bowen
Good Lord the comedy on here is off the charts
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01-05-2016 05:10 PM |
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Tiger Greg
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RE: Pastner Says We Should Contact Bowen
If you guys only knew how funny you aren't.
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01-05-2016 05:14 PM |
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Brother Bluto
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RE: Pastner Says We Should Contact Bowen
(01-05-2016 05:14 PM)Tiger Greg Wrote: If you guys only knew how funny you aren't.
We all know the joke is you doe
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01-05-2016 05:17 PM |
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Tiger Greg
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RE: Pastner Says We Should Contact Bowen
Like I said. It is the whole collection of wannabe clowns.
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01-05-2016 05:19 PM |
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Brother Bluto
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RE: Pastner Says We Should Contact Bowen
(01-05-2016 05:19 PM)Tiger Greg Wrote: Like I said. It is the whole collection of wannabe clowns.
What you say is jibberish
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01-05-2016 05:25 PM |
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HoopDreams
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RE: Pastner Says We Should Contact Bowen
We're watching the next Quin Snyder, minus the sanctions. Dale Brown maybe. Good to really good recruiter, average at best head coach.
Belichick? No chance. None. You could give him Kentucky's recruiting class four years running and I bet he wouldn't make the Final Four once.
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01-05-2016 05:26 PM |
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Tiger Greg
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RE: Pastner Says We Should Contact Bowen
(01-05-2016 05:25 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote: (01-05-2016 05:19 PM)Tiger Greg Wrote: Like I said. It is the whole collection of wannabe clowns.
What you say is jibberish
At least I don't use a dead junkie for a screen name.
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01-05-2016 05:29 PM |
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Brother Bluto
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RE: Pastner Says We Should Contact Bowen
(01-05-2016 05:26 PM)HoopDreams Wrote: We're watching the next Quin Snyder, minus the sanctions. Dale Brown maybe. Good to really good recruiter, average at best head coach.
Belichick? No chance. None. You could give him Kentucky's recruiting class four years running and I bet he wouldn't make the Final Four once.
I thought the term for Josh was "our coach K"? Now we've moved up to the pro ranks?
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01-05-2016 05:29 PM |
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Brother Bluto
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RE: Pastner Says We Should Contact Bowen
(01-05-2016 05:29 PM)Tiger Greg Wrote: (01-05-2016 05:25 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote: (01-05-2016 05:19 PM)Tiger Greg Wrote: Like I said. It is the whole collection of wannabe clowns.
What you say is jibberish
At least I don't use a dead junkie for a screen name.
Oh my that hurt. Did you give anyone timeout at school today ?
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01-05-2016 05:30 PM |
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Tiger Greg
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RE: Pastner Says We Should Contact Bowen
No. As far as I know all of my grandchildren were well behaved.
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01-05-2016 05:33 PM |
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bluecrew
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RE: Pastner Says We Should Contact Bowen
(01-05-2016 05:26 PM)HoopDreams Wrote: We're watching the next Quin Snyder, minus the sanctions. Dale Brown maybe. Good to really good recruiter, average at best head coach.
Belichick? No chance. None. You could give him Kentucky's recruiting class four years running and I bet he wouldn't make the Final Four once.
Or the Sweet Sixteen. One of the miracles Cal has pulled off is keeping internal strife down with so many blue chips on the team. To put it mildly, managing people is not one of Josh's strong suits.
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