(01-01-2016 01:21 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 01:10 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 12:55 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 09:12 PM)FORealTigerFan Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 09:04 PM)Rob Wrote:  They haven't done anything wrong. Some people will just never be happy.

Fuente was trying to secure that VT job when we still had several games left. His focus wasn't here, neither were his assistants. It cost us several games. And with the coaches left helping out with the bowl game none of them were really thinking about that game. They were thinking about future plans and all that. Same with Lynch. The whole thing was a distraction and dissapointing for our players especially the seniors.

Agreed, but that's the way it is if a G5 team has success.

Did it cost the Houston game? Memphis was up big--obviously the team was focused to come out strong vs UH. The gameplan vs Ward was superb.

Elliot misses a kick he makes 8/10 times and the Tigers took an L to a VERY good team.

Temple? That could very well have been a by product of having nothing to play for. MANY teams drop late season games they should otherwise win when their ultimate goal has been destroyed.

Obviously, they came back vs. SMU and stomped a mudhole in them.

As for the bowl game, kinda expected.

It is completely absurd to even believe the HC of a team who has the opportunity to play in the CFP (or in a P5 bowl at the least) would "tank" or not try to accomplish that on the way out the door. Hell, it would have just meant MUCH more money and possibly an even better job opportunity.

Good lord.

I think the focus was lost after the Ole Miss game. We played like crap in the Tulsa and Tulane games as well, just had more talent to overcome it. Once we got back to playing better teams it reared its ugly head. We werent prepared at all to play Navy. But we are what we are in football which is a stepping stone job for a up and coming young coach. At least it's not a graveyard anymore. Thank the Lord the HH boys didn't get their wish for Dickey to be the head coach.

I don't buy it.

Fuente has a team undefeated, on ABC, and in the national spotlight as the "hot" team to break into the College Football Playoff. Navy was a weird matchup and a couple plays tick the other way early (pass int call for one) and its a different game.

He runs the table and he wins coach of the year and then has his pick at jobs and probably adds another $1mil a year to whatever salary he's going to get.

Simply from an egotistical and selfish perspective, it is unfathomable he wouldn't be "focused" (whatever that means) to win out.

I will always follow JFs career. Going to VA Texh was a smart move. All of the awkwardness was because we had a bowl game to play.

Our bowl game wasn't good for transition.

I respect JF for allowing so many coaches to stay on staff through the bowl period.

(01-01-2016 01:28 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 01:21 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 01:10 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 12:55 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 09:12 PM)FORealTigerFan Wrote:  Fuente was trying to secure that VT job when we still had several games left. His focus wasn't here, neither were his assistants. It cost us several games. And with the coaches left helping out with the bowl game none of them were really thinking about that game. They were thinking about future plans and all that. Same with Lynch. The whole thing was a distraction and dissapointing for our players especially the seniors.

Agreed, but that's the way it is if a G5 team has success.

Did it cost the Houston game? Memphis was up big--obviously the team was focused to come out strong vs UH. The gameplan vs Ward was superb.

Elliot misses a kick he makes 8/10 times and the Tigers took an L to a VERY good team.

Temple? That could very well have been a by product of having nothing to play for. MANY teams drop late season games they should otherwise win when their ultimate goal has been destroyed.

Obviously, they came back vs. SMU and stomped a mudhole in them.

As for the bowl game, kinda expected.

It is completely absurd to even believe the HC of a team who has the opportunity to play in the CFP (or in a P5 bowl at the least) would "tank" or not try to accomplish that on the way out the door. Hell, it would have just meant MUCH more money and possibly an even better job opportunity.

Good lord.

I think the focus was lost after the Ole Miss game. We played like crap in the Tulsa and Tulane games as well, just had more talent to overcome it. Once we got back to playing better teams it reared its ugly head. We werent prepared at all to play Navy. But we are what we are in football which is a stepping stone job for a up and coming young coach. At least it's not a graveyard anymore. Thank the Lord the HH boys didn't get their wish for Dickey to be the head coach.

I don't buy it.

Fuente has a team undefeated, on ABC, and in the national spotlight as the "hot" team to break into the College Football Playoff. Navy was a weird matchup and a couple plays tick the other way early (pass int call for one) and its a different game.

He runs the table and he wins coach of the year and then has his pick at jobs and probably adds another $1mil a year to whatever salary he's going to get.

Simply from an egotistical and selfish perspective, it is unfathomable he wouldn't be "focused" (whatever that means) to win out.

This makes too much sense man. No need for that.

We were 8-0.

Navy was tough, 8-1.
Up 20 on Cougs, cooged it, 8-2.
Emotional letdown loss at Temple, 8-3.

Beat a terrible SMU team.

Lose to a talented, but underachieving Auburn team chock full of talent with a month to prep.

It all makes sense if you follow it. Nothing sinister or Fuente mailing it in.

Thank the man and let's keep winning with Norvell.

Thanks Fuente, let's go Norvell, go tigers go!

(12-31-2015 09:04 PM)Rob Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 08:02 PM)bluecrew Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 07:49 PM)TruTiger77 Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 07:30 PM)99Tiger Wrote:  http://247sports.com/Bolt/OFFICIAL-Brad-...f-42408312

Edit: fixed name

Shocker, his wife sent Pax a congrats on Twitter her profile pic had him wearing a VT shirt in front of a Christmas tree and background of the stadium in Blacksburg. Really appreciate what Fu and his guys did for us but ready for them to get gone. We got a program to keep building.

Agreed. The way this bunch is leaving leaves a lot to be desired.

They haven't done anything wrong. Some people will just never be happy.

Fuente met with Foster (Virginia Tech defensive coordinator) during the season (week before SMU)...
He knew way before last game that he was leaving. There was no pretense in 'soul searching' on whether he would stay or not. This was done way before the Navy game.
Premature indeed.

(12-31-2015 09:40 PM)HungryTiger901 Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 09:12 PM)FORealTigerFan Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 09:04 PM)Rob Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 08:02 PM)bluecrew Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 07:49 PM)TruTiger77 Wrote:  Shocker, his wife sent Pax a congrats on Twitter her profile pic had him wearing a VT shirt in front of a Christmas tree and background of the stadium in Blacksburg. Really appreciate what Fu and his guys did for us but ready for them to get gone. We got a program to keep building.

Agreed. The way this bunch is leaving leaves a lot to be desired.

They haven't done anything wrong. Some people will just never be happy.

Fuente was trying to secure that VT job when we still had several games left. His focus wasn't here, neither were his assistants. It cost us several games. And with the coaches left helping out with the bowl game none of them were really thinking about that game. They were thinking about future plans and all that. Same with Lynch. The whole thing was a distraction and dissapointing for our players especially the seniors.

Best post I've read in this forum for quite a while. Some folks just refuse to believe our "program savior" would passive aggressively take a dump on it during the process of exiting.

It is a process forced by the powers that be that put the recruiting live time between the end of the season and bowls. It forces schools to A) forfeit recruiting and hire after the bowl and after everyone else has already hired the cream-of-the-crop or B) Raid the hen house. Va. Tech elected plan B thus set in motion an ugly procession that is lived out every year in college football. I for one am glad we had someone that someone else deemed hot enough that they started early.

(12-31-2015 10:27 PM)bluecrew Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 09:50 PM)SigEpMike Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 09:40 PM)HungryTiger901 Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 09:12 PM)FORealTigerFan Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 09:04 PM)Rob Wrote:  They haven't done anything wrong. Some people will just never be happy.

Fuente was trying to secure that VT job when we still had several games left. His focus wasn't here, neither were his assistants. It cost us several games. And with the coaches left helping out with the bowl game none of them were really thinking about that game. They were thinking about future plans and all that. Same with Lynch. The whole thing was a distraction and dissapointing for our players especially the seniors.

Best post I've read in this forum for quite a while. Some folks just refuse to believe our "program savior" would passive aggressively take a dump on it during the process of exiting.

No...its just that some people refuse to act like a bitter ex-girlfriend and realize that Fuente brought our program out of the basement of college football to the point that we have national redox and are a viable candidate for inclusion in the Big 12.

Just because everyone doesn't feel exactly like you do doesn't make them wrong. I'm so sick of about 5 posters on here thinking it's their responsibility to "correct" everyone's opinion. Feel free to just not respond if you don't agree- there's no need to be a jerk CONSTANTLY.

I thought being a jerk was THE pre-requisite to post on this board...

It's a weird business model. Fuente and Va Tech did what they were allowed to do within the rules and structure of the NCAA. If an NFL GM or owner went after the head coach of another team they would get fined and lose draft picks. I blame the NCAA and Va Tech for our late season collapse more than Fuente and his coaches.

(01-01-2016 12:21 AM)bluecrew Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 12:04 AM)covingtontiger Wrote:  Well, my take is that some fans have to treat it like breaking up with their girlfriend. "Well, I feel sure that she was playing around while we were dating, so I am better off without her". Or, if you are female, just the opposite.

Apparently, demonizing Fuente and /or his staff makes some fans feel better. I look at it as a business. It was expected when Fuente came that he would be able to step up to a better job if he made us a winner. So, when he did both, suddenly there is this negative reaction.

Get over it. We have another great coach. Look forward and not backward and you will be much happier in life. JMHO.

No one blames them for leaving. You people can't be so stupid that you can't differentiate between being upset about how they left as opposed to them leaving, can you? So how about you get over it? Or not. Quit telling other people how to feel about it, and you might be much happier. JMHO.

Um, I think you just did it for us...

(01-01-2016 12:26 AM)TigerRob Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 07:58 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  I bunch of hired guns moving on to the next gun fight with our former sheriff. We got us a new sheriff and a new posse. Looks like the town is still in good shape and in good hands.

I'm betting thee new guys on the block are not afraid to challenge big boys foe recruits. There were 4 star recruits within Shelby county that were never recruit by former staff and none of our coaches attended their high school games. I was told this by one of the parents that son plays on same teams.

And there is a possibility there was a reason they stayed away from four star recruits. One is, there was no desire to win ball games and develop a program.

(01-01-2016 03:13 PM)tigerex Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 12:26 AM)TigerRob Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 07:58 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  I bunch of hired guns moving on to the next gun fight with our former sheriff. We got us a new sheriff and a new posse. Looks like the town is still in good shape and in good hands.

I'm betting thee new guys on the block are not afraid to challenge big boys foe recruits. There were 4 star recruits within Shelby county that were never recruit by former staff and none of our coaches attended their high school games. I was told this by one of the parents that son plays on same teams.

And there is a possibility there was a reason they stayed away from four star recruits. One is, there was no desire to win ball games and develop a program.

No desire by whom? Former staff or the four-star recruits?

(01-01-2016 11:09 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 10:24 AM)Crazier Wrote:  How could Fuente left better? Calipari left the program in shambles. Justin Fuente left in an angelic way compared to Calipari. It's just the nature of college football. They handle business during the season. College football is just not an honorable sport, from the way they handle coaching hires to not making it fair for all schools to win a championship.

Fuente left us much better off in every respect.

Cal did not leave the program in shambles; just the roster. He left us with a top 10-20 PROGRAM. But the way he left by 'agonizing' over the decision in order to take as many recruits as possible to KY? Eff him.

How does taking your entire recruiting class paid for with Memphis money and leaving basically one player leave it a top 20 program. It takes players to be a top 20 program. He and R. C. A$$hat tried to insure the program tanked to make X look like a real hero.

(01-01-2016 10:24 AM)Crazier Wrote:  How could Fuente left better? Calipari left the program in shambles. Justin Fuente left in an angelic way compared to Calipari. It's just the nature of college football. They handle business during the season. College football is just not an honorable sport, from the way they handle coaching hires to not making it fair for all schools to win a championship.

You mean, shambles like a national brand, four straight sweet 16 or better appearances and a bunch of solid returning players?

Even if he'd wanted to, cal could not have made Bledsoe, wall, Henry, or cousins come here. They were coming here for cal. They would've gone elsewhere if not Kentucky. He left the program way way better than he found it, as has fuente

(01-01-2016 03:17 PM)EdmondTiger Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 03:13 PM)tigerex Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 12:26 AM)TigerRob Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 07:58 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  I bunch of hired guns moving on to the next gun fight with our former sheriff. We got us a new sheriff and a new posse. Looks like the town is still in good shape and in good hands.

I'm betting thee new guys on the block are not afraid to challenge big boys foe recruits. There were 4 star recruits within Shelby county that were never recruit by former staff and none of our coaches attended their high school games. I was told this by one of the parents that son plays on same teams.

And there is a possibility there was a reason they stayed away from four star recruits. One is, there was no desire to win ball games and develop a program.

No desire by whom? Former staff or the four-star recruits?

I would say prior staff, if, they ignored four star recruits in their own backyard just because. I would not portray a young man's desire especially one I have not seen play.

(01-01-2016 03:23 PM)tigerex Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 11:09 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 10:24 AM)Crazier Wrote:  How could Fuente left better? Calipari left the program in shambles. Justin Fuente left in an angelic way compared to Calipari. It's just the nature of college football. They handle business during the season. College football is just not an honorable sport, from the way they handle coaching hires to not making it fair for all schools to win a championship.

Fuente left us much better off in every respect.

Cal did not leave the program in shambles; just the roster. He left us with a top 10-20 PROGRAM. But the way he left by 'agonizing' over the decision in order to take as many recruits as possible to KY? Eff him.

How does taking your entire recruiting class paid for with Memphis money and leaving basically one player leave it a top 20 program. It takes players to be a top 20 program. He and R. C. A$$hat tried to insure the program tanked to make X look like a real hero.

for what its worth..Cal did not 'leave us a player'....Coleman decided to honor his commitment....and for that I thank him. It coulda been worse...as in Spoon and Garcia being our only bigs during that time.

(01-01-2016 03:23 PM)tigerex Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 11:09 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 10:24 AM)Crazier Wrote:  How could Fuente left better? Calipari left the program in shambles. Justin Fuente left in an angelic way compared to Calipari. It's just the nature of college football. They handle business during the season. College football is just not an honorable sport, from the way they handle coaching hires to not making it fair for all schools to win a championship.

Fuente left us much better off in every respect.

Cal did not leave the program in shambles; just the roster. He left us with a top 10-20 PROGRAM. But the way he left by 'agonizing' over the decision in order to take as many recruits as possible to KY? Eff him.

How does taking your entire recruiting class paid for with Memphis money and leaving basically one player leave it a top 20 program. It takes players to be a top 20 program. He and R. C. A$$hat tried to insure the program tanked to make X look like a real hero.

The PROGRAM is the facilities, the fan support, the available salaries for coaches, etc. If you support / build the PROGRAM and hire the right COACH you'll get the PLAYERS to be a top 20 team.

Cal had to cheat to win. A great standard for success.

(01-01-2016 03:24 PM)jgardne Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 10:24 AM)Crazier Wrote:  How could Fuente left better? Calipari left the program in shambles. Justin Fuente left in an angelic way compared to Calipari. It's just the nature of college football. They handle business during the season. College football is just not an honorable sport, from the way they handle coaching hires to not making it fair for all schools to win a championship.

You mean, shambles like a national brand, four straight sweet 16 or better appearances and a bunch of solid returning players?

Even if he'd wanted to, cal could not have made Bledsoe, wall, Henry, or cousins come here. They were coming here for cal. They would've gone elsewhere if not Kentucky. He left the program way way better than he found it, as has fuente

Umm he tried to get those solid players to transfer or go pro

(01-01-2016 04:44 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 03:23 PM)tigerex Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 11:09 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 10:24 AM)Crazier Wrote:  How could Fuente left better? Calipari left the program in shambles. Justin Fuente left in an angelic way compared to Calipari. It's just the nature of college football. They handle business during the season. College football is just not an honorable sport, from the way they handle coaching hires to not making it fair for all schools to win a championship.

Fuente left us much better off in every respect.

Cal did not leave the program in shambles; just the roster. He left us with a top 10-20 PROGRAM. But the way he left by 'agonizing' over the decision in order to take as many recruits as possible to KY? Eff him.

How does taking your entire recruiting class paid for with Memphis money and leaving basically one player leave it a top 20 program. It takes players to be a top 20 program. He and R. C. A$$hat tried to insure the program tanked to make X look like a real hero.

The PROGRAM is the facilities, the fan support, the available salaries for coaches, etc. If you support / build the PROGRAM and hire the right COACH you'll get the PLAYERS to be a top 20 team.

Liberty Bowl has had massive improvements
Avgd over 40 k a game
Coaching salaries are higher in football than ever before so please tell me how Fuente is dumping on memphis

(12-31-2015 09:40 PM)HungryTiger901 Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 09:12 PM)FORealTigerFan Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 09:04 PM)Rob Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 08:02 PM)bluecrew Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 07:49 PM)TruTiger77 Wrote:  Shocker, his wife sent Pax a congrats on Twitter her profile pic had him wearing a VT shirt in front of a Christmas tree and background of the stadium in Blacksburg. Really appreciate what Fu and his guys did for us but ready for them to get gone. We got a program to keep building.

Agreed. The way this bunch is leaving leaves a lot to be desired.

They haven't done anything wrong. Some people will just never be happy.

Fuente was trying to secure that VT job when we still had several games left. His focus wasn't here, neither were his assistants. It cost us several games. And with the coaches left helping out with the bowl game none of them were really thinking about that game. They were thinking about future plans and all that. Same with Lynch. The whole thing was a distraction and dissapointing for our players especially the seniors.

Best post I've read in this forum for quite a while. Some folks just refuse to believe our "program savior" would passive aggressively take a dump on it during the process of exiting.

Not a dump, just milking it for all he can, its why he was successful here. I doubt he ever has another shot at a undefeated season however, he tossed that on his way out the door. Paxton no doubt cost himself some money as well, he was knocking on the #1 draft slot before the train was directed off course by the conductor.

It is past time to say goodbye and thank you to Fuente and his staff. Now stay gone and quit milking us. He left midseason but is hanging around to play it for all its worth to VaTech now, not Memphis. (Kind of like Cal tried to do with Tyreke but not as dirty)

(01-01-2016 04:05 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 03:23 PM)tigerex Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 11:09 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 10:24 AM)Crazier Wrote:  How could Fuente left better? Calipari left the program in shambles. Justin Fuente left in an angelic way compared to Calipari. It's just the nature of college football. They handle business during the season. College football is just not an honorable sport, from the way they handle coaching hires to not making it fair for all schools to win a championship.

Fuente left us much better off in every respect.

Cal did not leave the program in shambles; just the roster. He left us with a top 10-20 PROGRAM. But the way he left by 'agonizing' over the decision in order to take as many recruits as possible to KY? Eff him.

How does taking your entire recruiting class paid for with Memphis money and leaving basically one player leave it a top 20 program. It takes players to be a top 20 program. He and R. C. A$$hat tried to insure the program tanked to make X look like a real hero.

for what its worth..Cal did not 'leave us a player'....Coleman decided to honor his commitment....and for that I thank him. It coulda been worse...as in Spoon and Garcia being our only bigs during that time.

I was being overly generous Misfit...