If Huff sits next year it's on him and not the coaches. Its time for him to be the guy or a bust. There is no in between for him. Star or bust.,

ACRB is a very good runningback. runs hard, blocks, catches well and smart. Huff is a game changer. If he had as many carries as ACRB, he would be an 1800 yard rusher. This would take pressure off of Hare and others running the ball. The days of Jordan Lynch carrying 30 times a game is over, he was abnormal.

(12-23-2015 10:40 AM)klake87 Wrote:  ACRB is a very good runningback. runs hard, blocks, catches well and smart. Huff is a game changer. If he had as many carries as ACRB, he would be an 1800 yard rusher. This would take pressure off of Hare and others running the ball. The days of Jordan Lynch carrying 30 times a game is over, he was abnormal.

He will get his chance next year. If he doesn't, we know it has nothing to do with talent because we all know he can be a special back. He just needs to pick up the little things, which I have no doubt he will.

(12-23-2015 10:40 AM)klake87 Wrote:  ACRB is a very good runningback. runs hard, blocks, catches well and smart. Huff is a game changer. If he had as many carries as ACRB, he would be an 1800 yard rusher. This would take pressure off of Hare and others running the ball. The days of Jordan Lynch carrying 30 times a game is over, he was abnormal.

+1

(12-23-2015 10:25 AM)NIU05 Wrote:  If Huff sits next year it's on him and not the coaches. Its time for him to be the guy or a bust. There is no in between for him. Star or bust.,

No. Unless Huff is downright defiant, it's up to the coaches. Fumbling, blocking, and lining up are coachable, fundamental issues. The coaches are not getting it done.

You guys can blame the coaches all you want, that doesn't motivate a player to actually work. The fact is, there are a lot of elite players who have always had more ability than effort. As the competition rises, the sad thing is their effort does not and players with ability and effort pass them by. If you have a gift and have never needed to put in effort to be great, it's difficult to learn effort. The writing is on the wall with Huff. It's clear that he has ability. At this level however, effort is required. More so in a team environment. You cant have every player on your squad putting in the effort and one not. The one becomes a cancer. You say they should punish him to get him to buy into the system "The Hard Way"? How do you punish an elite player who puts in little effort? By limiting his playing time. It happened during the season. When he puts in the work, he gets rewarded by increased time. Missing blocking assignment is a reflection of lack of study and prep. Lining up wrong... Lack of study. Missing the whole and improvising.. lack of study. Huff needs to grow up and be the player that his ability has shown he can be. No way can you sit Joel who studies and preps, makes the proper reads and picks up his blocking assignments. Why this gets beat to death is beyond me. Huff needs to grow up. The coaches know who he is and how he effects the team. His effort needs to be on par with his peers or he sits, regardless of ability. I'll support that 100%.

One of the reasons our graduation success rate is high is because our staff holds the players accountable. The inmates can not run the asylum.

(12-23-2015 11:20 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  No. Unless Huff is downright defiant, it's up to the coaches. Fumbling, blocking, and lining up are coachable, fundamental issues. The coaches are not getting it done.

The Huff supporters on here are hilarious. This comment in particular is great. You realize that guys in the NFL have fumbling, blocking and lining up issues even when they have the best coaching staffs in the world right? Top NFL RBs get benched when they suddenly start fumbling or screwing up simple plays. People on here are quick to blame the coaches because it's easy. They get no credit when things go well but suddenly everything is their fault when a player isn't getting it done. You can coach kids 12 hours a day but when they get on the field there isn't a hell of a lot you can do.

(12-23-2015 11:20 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  

(12-23-2015 10:25 AM)NIU05 Wrote:  If Huff sits next year it's on him and not the coaches. Its time for him to be the guy or a bust. There is no in between for him. Star or bust.,

No. Unless Huff is downright defiant, it's up to the coaches. Fumbling, blocking, and lining up are coachable, fundamental issues. The coaches are not getting it done.

?? You think the coaches see his talent and just aren't trying to teach him?

Huff is a very good player with some issues when it comes to thinking on the fly and small details. He will gain those with experience. It's not like he's going anywhere guys. Now, onto the bowl game (that we, the players, and coaches don't care about lol)

(12-22-2015 08:01 PM)HuskieFootball Addict Wrote:  

(12-21-2015 04:25 PM)Field Turf Wrote:  

(12-21-2015 04:06 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  Well then we won't be running our true offense if he plays. I doubt they will be calling any QB keepers or option plays with him in the game. Guess it will all be on his arm and our running game that hasn't done anything the last two games.

Which is better, Graham not running our true offense or Fiedler running our true offense?

I think the former. It might actually force Cole to get more creative with his play calling.

Not likely but we can hope & dream!

I am not a fan of Cole's play calling. I fully expect a ton of QB draws even with Graham in a knee brace. I sure hope that I am wrong.

So any confirmation on graham starting?

If Graham is only 90 percent but still better than Fiedler then you game plan around his limitations but you can't stop Graham from running when it is the best option.

(12-23-2015 12:45 PM)NIU8484 Wrote:  So any confirmation on graham starting?

Carey has said on more than one occasion that he will start. So unless he has had a setback I recon he will. How effective he will be remains to be seen.

(12-23-2015 11:36 AM)armour248 Wrote:  

(12-23-2015 11:20 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  No. Unless Huff is downright defiant, it's up to the coaches. Fumbling, blocking, and lining up are coachable, fundamental issues. The coaches are not getting it done.

The Huff supporters on here are hilarious. This comment in particular is great. You realize that guys in the NFL have fumbling, blocking and lining up issues even when they have the best coaching staffs in the world right? Top NFL RBs get benched when they suddenly start fumbling or screwing up simple plays. People on here are quick to blame the coaches because it's easy. They get no credit when things go well but suddenly everything is their fault when a player isn't getting it done. You can coach kids 12 hours a day but when they get on the field there isn't a hell of a lot you can do.

so you're saying fumbling, blocking, and lining up aren't coachable fundamentals? Then you're dumber than a sack of hair. They're very easy to coach fundamentals you have to practice daily.

(12-23-2015 11:36 AM)armour248 Wrote:  

(12-23-2015 11:20 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  No. Unless Huff is downright defiant, it's up to the coaches. Fumbling, blocking, and lining up are coachable, fundamental issues. The coaches are not getting it done.

The Huff supporters on here are hilarious. This comment in particular is great. You realize that guys in the NFL have fumbling, blocking and lining up issues even when they have the best coaching staffs in the world right? Top NFL RBs get benched when they suddenly start fumbling or screwing up simple plays. People on here are quick to blame the coaches because it's easy. They get no credit when things go well but suddenly everything is their fault when a player isn't getting it done. You can coach kids 12 hours a day but when they get on the field there isn't a hell of a lot you can do.

you know this isn't the NFL, right? NFL has more depth. Also smart guy name one "top" NFL RB who was benched for a backup because he fumbled.

(12-23-2015 12:58 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  

(12-23-2015 11:36 AM)armour248 Wrote:  

(12-23-2015 11:20 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  No. Unless Huff is downright defiant, it's up to the coaches. Fumbling, blocking, and lining up are coachable, fundamental issues. The coaches are not getting it done.

The Huff supporters on here are hilarious. This comment in particular is great. You realize that guys in the NFL have fumbling, blocking and lining up issues even when they have the best coaching staffs in the world right? Top NFL RBs get benched when they suddenly start fumbling or screwing up simple plays. People on here are quick to blame the coaches because it's easy. They get no credit when things go well but suddenly everything is their fault when a player isn't getting it done. You can coach kids 12 hours a day but when they get on the field there isn't a hell of a lot you can do.

so you're saying fumbling, blocking, and lining up aren't coachable fundamentals? Then you're dumber than a sack of hair. They're very easy to coach fundamentals you have to practice daily.

And you think the NIU coaches either don't practice the fundamentals, don't know how to teach them, or they need to do more with certain players?

based on the two fumbles, two missed blocks, and one misalignment the coaches obviously think he's not getting it done. Personally, I would have still made him the featured back and kept working on it but our coaches seem to rather bench him after a mistake rather than try to let him make up for it. Like I said, Maxwell seems immune from benching despite his numerous mistakes although I think Wimann is a more dependable player

(12-23-2015 01:03 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  you know this isn't the NFL, right? NFL has more depth. Also smart guy name one "top" NFL RB who was benched for a backup because he fumbled.

Let's see...of recent memory...Eddie Lacy, Jeremy Hill, Javarious "Buck" Allen, Melvin Gordon, Ameer Abdullah. Those were all this year. I'm sure you can go back further and find more if you want. The idea that starting NFL RBs don't get benched for having poor ball security or pass protection skills is hilarious.

Also your comment on depth has nothing to do with your attack on the coaching. Players are responsible for protecting the ball. Is there technique to ball security? Sure. Is it some crazy science? No. Sometimes players are just good at it or they aren't. You also realize that the coaches have seen Huff about 1000x more than you have right? They have watched hundreds of practice and probably thousands of snaps that he was in. I'm going to trust their professional opinion over yours. Sorry.

(12-23-2015 12:58 PM)bikechuck Wrote:  

(12-23-2015 12:45 PM)NIU8484 Wrote:  So any confirmation on graham starting?

Carey has said on more than one occasion that he will start. So unless he has had a setback I recon he will. How effective he will be remains to be seen.

He has a big contingency of family going. They would not go to San Diego if he was not playing.

(12-23-2015 01:56 PM)armour248 Wrote:  

(12-23-2015 01:03 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  you know this isn't the NFL, right? NFL has more depth. Also smart guy name one "top" NFL RB who was benched for a backup because he fumbled.

Let's see...of recent memory...Eddie Lacy, Jeremy Hill, Javarious "Buck" Allen, Melvin Gordon, Ameer Abdullah. Those were all this year. I'm sure you can go back further and find more if you want. The idea that starting NFL RBs don't get benched for having poor ball security or pass protection skills is hilarious.

Also your comment on depth has nothing to do with your attack on the coaching. Players are responsible for protecting the ball. Is there technique to ball security? Sure. Is it some crazy science? No. Sometimes players are just good at it or they aren't. You also realize that the coaches have seen Huff about 1000x more than you have right? They have watched hundreds of practice and probably thousands of snaps that he was in. I'm going to trust their professional opinion over yours. Sorry.

Pretty hilarious. You named a bunch of rookies and guys fighting for their jobs and not "top" players as you mentioned. As for my attacking the coaches, it was Carey who questioned Huff's work ethic. I'm just saying more needs to be done from a coaching aspect if Carey wants a perfect RB. I'm willing to accept Huff's two fumbles if he's going to get the tough yards and touchdowns. Carey seems to expect perfection from Huff while Maxwell can screw up dozens of times. If he wants Huff to be perfect then I want to see how much investment has gone into him.