(11-27-2015 09:41 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-27-2015 09:32 PM)Dasville Wrote:  

(11-27-2015 09:23 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-27-2015 09:19 PM)Dasville Wrote:  

(11-27-2015 09:11 PM)JRsec Wrote:  That's very true but it doesn't magically take away from the total earnings. This isn't a horse race where lighter jockeys have to add weight to make it fair. It is what it is. 27 million more per school average is 27 million more per average. And yes that includes everything for all of the P5 schools (privates included) and the original post of these figures was first placed on this board by Enter Sandman.

BTW: He does a terrific job of tracking down the info on the privates. I've done that before and it's a bear to assemble.

The more you exclude yourself, the more excluded you become. The SEC and B1G tit implants have gotten grotesque.

What the heck are you even talking about. The numbers are the numbers, nothing more nothing less. I guess if you don't have a logical or reasonable reply you resort to this kind of stuff?

But it does answer some questions I've had about some of your conduct. I guess you guys think that ganging up on somebody to name call and defame makes you feel better? That's so juvenile.

JR, what is the pecking order in the SEC or B1G? Does ALLLLLLLLLL the money in the world change that?

It may change a few spots from year to year, even near the top, but it is usually the same general group. Where it is headed however is another matter altogether. I don't know why you would be upset. Your Cardinals hang in the top 20 pretty well. And I believe you are somewhere around 3rd in the ACC. That's pretty healthy even when compared to the other conferences.

Sorry, it's in my blood. We fought for CUSA and the Big East as well. When your a fighter, what you do is fight.

I'm fighting for the ACC now.

I don't think FSU would have much trouble replacing Fisher. It's incredibly easy to win there.

(11-27-2015 10:25 PM)WakeForestRanger Wrote:  I don't think FSU would have much trouble replacing Fisher. It's incredibly easy to win there.

Fisher IS a good coach, but it's also easier to win at FSU than it is at LSU.

(11-27-2015 05:14 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  The amount of money LSU would have to pay to make this work is astounding. Not only would they have to pay buyouts for Miles and staff (could be over 15 mil), but then they'd have to pay Jimbo's buyout which is about 5 mil. Not to mention they'd have to pay him about 6 mil just to make him think about leaving FSU since he already makes over 5 mil.

And that's why those TV big bucks MATTER.

(11-27-2015 04:53 PM)Maize Wrote:  Honestly why would Jimbo leave for LSU...

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Coaching is a finite gig. Paul Johnson is about to become the longest serving active coach in the ACC. Let that **** sink in for a moment.

If you're only going to get to dance for 5-10 years or so at the head coach level, you might as well bank as much money as humanly possible while you're there. Most ACC schools are paying well under $3m/yr. Paul Johnson IIRC is amongst the highest paid in the conference at like $2.5m/yr. (Roughly thereabouts) And LSU can put up Saban kind of money (approaching and exceeding $5m/yr). LSU has an athletic department that pays all its bills AND contributes back to the LSU academic scholarship fund.

So what's the difference? 5 years * 2m = $10,000,000. Conservatively, THAT'S the difference. Would you turn down $10,000,000?

(11-27-2015 11:16 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(11-27-2015 04:53 PM)Maize Wrote:  Honestly why would Jimbo leave for LSU...

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Coaching is a finite gig. Paul Johnson is about to become the longest serving active coach in the ACC. Let that **** sink in for a moment.

If you're only going to get to dance for 5-10 years or so at the head coach level, you might as well bank as much money as humanly possible while you're there. Most ACC schools are paying well under $3m/yr. Paul Johnson IIRC is amongst the highest paid in the conference at like $2.5m/yr. (Roughly thereabouts) And LSU can put up Saban kind of money (approaching and exceeding $5m/yr). LSU has an athletic department that pays all its bills AND contributes back to the LSU academic scholarship fund.

So what's the difference? 5 years * 2m = $10,000,000. Conservatively, THAT'S the difference. Would you turn down $10,000,000?

Oh I get the $$$$$ aspect...that is what makes the world go around...just feel FSU could match the roughly $6 Million they would have to pay him...suspect it will be between Charlie Strong $5 Million a year @ Texas and Saban $6.9 Million @ Bama.

FSU would absolutely match LSU if they only offered 6 mil. LSU would have to offer 6.5 or 7 to get Jimbo to consider.

(11-27-2015 11:16 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(11-27-2015 04:53 PM)Maize Wrote:  Honestly why would Jimbo leave for LSU...

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Coaching is a finite gig. Paul Johnson is about to become the longest serving active coach in the ACC. Let that **** sink in for a moment.

If you're only going to get to dance for 5-10 years or so at the head coach level, you might as well bank as much money as humanly possible while you're there. Most ACC schools are paying well under $3m/yr. Paul Johnson IIRC is amongst the highest paid in the conference at like $2.5m/yr. (Roughly thereabouts) And LSU can put up Saban kind of money (approaching and exceeding $5m/yr). LSU has an athletic department that pays all its bills AND contributes back to the LSU academic scholarship fund.

So what's the difference? 5 years * 2m = $10,000,000. Conservatively, THAT'S the difference. Would you turn down $10,000,000?

College football coaches have become courtesans. But no matter how you fancy it up, they are, for the most part, still whores.

(11-27-2015 08:26 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  I definitely see FSU matching anything LSU offers. And I definitely don't see how it makes much sense for him to leave a job where he'll get paid as much as anyone in the nation and have an easier road to the playoffs. If Jimbo was leaving for the NFL, I'd get it, LSU naw.... This smells more like he wants a pay raise from FSU to me.

And You must realize to be advantages LSU would have to offer way more money to off set the fact that Florida has No Income tax based on personal earnings. That's a good chunk of change right there.

Is Jimbo worth that much? LSU has the $15 million buyout for Les & about another $5 million for his staff on top of Jimbo $5 million buyout, that's $25 million just in buyouts. On top of that they would have to pay Jimbo more than Les was making. All of that just to run off their winningest coach in program history? Is Les hitting the golf courses instead of practice or something?

As far as the numbers goes, FSU is the top revenue program in the ACC & 12th nationally so I don't think comparing the conference averages is fair here. The ACC is hanging with the PAC & the Big 12. Sure LSU makes more money but Jimbo has already won a national title at FSU & have lost what, 3 games the last 3 seasons?

It would be a bad move for both sides. FSU will be fine either way. I will be looking for Mullen to move up & if FSU opens up, if not Mullen than maybe Strong?

(11-28-2015 10:15 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  

(11-27-2015 08:26 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  I definitely see FSU matching anything LSU offers. And I definitely don't see how it makes much sense for him to leave a job where he'll get paid as much as anyone in the nation and have an easier road to the playoffs. If Jimbo was leaving for the NFL, I'd get it, LSU naw.... This smells more like he wants a pay raise from FSU to me.

And You must realize to be advantages LSU would have to offer way more money to off set the fact that Florida has No Income tax based on personal earnings. That's a good chunk of change right there.

The feds still take $120k of the first $420k and then 39.6% of EVERYTHING after that. I'm not saying some states don't take a big cut ... but acknowledge there is no escape from the real thieves of the tax game.

(11-28-2015 09:52 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  FSU would absolutely match LSU if they only offered 6 mil. LSU would have to offer 6.5 or 7 to get Jimbo to consider.

LSU paying him more than Bama is paying Saban....interesting....

(11-28-2015 11:16 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 10:15 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  

(11-27-2015 08:26 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  I definitely see FSU matching anything LSU offers. And I definitely don't see how it makes much sense for him to leave a job where he'll get paid as much as anyone in the nation and have an easier road to the playoffs. If Jimbo was leaving for the NFL, I'd get it, LSU naw.... This smells more like he wants a pay raise from FSU to me.

And You must realize to be advantages LSU would have to offer way more money to off set the fact that Florida has No Income tax based on personal earnings. That's a good chunk of change right there.

The feds still take $120k of the first $420k and then 39.6% of EVERYTHING after that. I'm not saying some states don't take a big cut ... but acknowledge there is no escape from the real thieves of the tax game.

Florida doesn't have state income tax but the property tax is pretty ugly. They all get their money somehow.

Fsu is a better job than lsu. All these sec guys are delusional. He's not leaving

LSU AD...Les Miles staying put:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...ain-future

His press conference= "there are a couple of folks that I'd like to meet in a dark alley."

(11-28-2015 11:59 PM)bronconick Wrote:  His press conference= "there are a couple of folks that I'd like to meet in a dark alley."

I'd bet that L.S.U. will be looking for a new A.D. shortly. Somebody has to take the blame for this fiasco and it won't be the president or the guilty boosters. In the end this will have circumvented Jimmy Sexton's usual method of getting a bigger raise for Jimbo. A fuller explanation of his methods are in a thread on the SEC board for those who are interested.

(11-29-2015 11:38 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 11:59 PM)bronconick Wrote:  His press conference= "there are a couple of folks that I'd like to meet in a dark alley."

I'd bet that L.S.U. will be looking for a new A.D. shortly. Somebody has to take the blame for this fiasco and it won't be the president or the guilty boosters. In the end this will have circumvented Jimmy Sexton's usual method of getting a bigger raise for Jimbo. A fuller explanation of his methods are in a thread on the SEC board for those who are interested.

Here's a lengthy piece on Sexton. For what it's worth, overall they paint him in a positive light. I wouldn't call it a fluff piece, but you can't call it hard hitting either.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...ker-scenes

(12-02-2015 02:49 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  

(11-29-2015 11:38 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 11:59 PM)bronconick Wrote:  His press conference= "there are a couple of folks that I'd like to meet in a dark alley."

I'd bet that L.S.U. will be looking for a new A.D. shortly. Somebody has to take the blame for this fiasco and it won't be the president or the guilty boosters. In the end this will have circumvented Jimmy Sexton's usual method of getting a bigger raise for Jimbo. A fuller explanation of his methods are in a thread on the SEC board for those who are interested.

Here's a lengthy piece on Sexton. For what it's worth, overall they paint him in a positive light. I wouldn't call it a fluff piece, but you can't call it hard hitting either.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...ker-scenes

Schlabach reporting on Sexton is like the FBI being asked for intimate details on a top informant. Nothing incriminating will be revealed. Mark relies on all connections for his stories which in turn enhances his own value.

This actually could be about ESPN wanting Florida to regain some momentum.
SEC East is crap. Jimbo owns Florida and FSU does as well as of late.
Also, if LSU,South Carolina,Missouri,Georgia and Miss. State all have openings.......
What's that say about the SEC?