I watched the game again. I think it was a mistake to basically rush 3 with very little blitzing. I think our DL played very well. Our LBs and secondary played loose but made some great plays to go with some coverages where our guys were out of position.

Great play calling and execution on offense. The flea-flicker and going deep on 4th down were really gutsy calls.

Word of caution to future opponents: Don't take W&M for a soft team and try to push us around. We'll punch you in your big mouth and kick your butt as you walk, tail tucked, back to your bus.

(11-29-2015 10:26 AM)Tribal Wrote:  I watched the game again. I think it was a mistake to basically rush 3 with very little blitzing. I think our DL played very well. Our LBs and secondary played loose but made some great plays to go with some coverages where our guys were out of position.

Great play calling and execution on offense. The flea-flicker and going deep on 4th down were really gutsy calls.

Word of caution to future opponents: Don't take W&M for a soft team and try to push us around. We'll punch you in your big mouth and kick your butt as you walk, tail tucked, back to your bus.

I wonder if we thought we could be effective against what we thought was a lesser team only rushing 3.

NET YARDS RUSHING 117 229
Rushing Attempts 26 47
Average Per Rush 4.5 4.9
Rushing Touchdowns 0 3
Yards Gained Rushing 132 251
Yards Lost Rushing 15 22
NET YARDS PASSING 423 251
Completions-Attempts-Int 33-53-2 11-15-2
Average Per Attempt 8.0 16.7
Average Per Completion 12.8 22.8
Passing Touchdowns 6 3
TOTAL OFFENSE YARDS 540 480
Total offense plays 79 62
Average Gain Per Play 6.8 7.7

Stunning 540 yards allowed with 423 passing.

And my # 500 post

GO TRIBE BEAT UR

Maybe, but our DC had 60 minutes to adjust. 14-0 was reason enough to rethink that strategy. I think we're a better defense when we rush 4 and/or mix in blitzes. Harvey and Rhodes tend to do that very well so let's hope they're on the field Saturday. It's also worth mentioning that Duquesne enjoyed excellent field position following poor KO coverage, costly penalties late in the game, and turnovers.

Did that kid set a stadium passing record?

(11-29-2015 11:42 AM)SoCal Frank Wrote:  Did that kid set a stadium passing record?

Buechel's night was the third best ever at Zable and the best by a Tribe opponent (C. Michigan's QB put up 409, I believe, on the Tribe, that was up at their place). Two Tribe greats have the #1 and #2 performances at Zable.

1. 433 yds, Jake Phillips vs. Delaware, on 8/30/07
2. 426 yds, David Corley, Jr. vs. Northeastern, on 10/28/00

Still, a pretty impressive performance your the young man.

I remember that Phillips performance. Inaugural CAA football game against Delaware with that Flacco guy who torched us.

Duquesne seems like they are a football team on the rise, winning the NEC 3x over the last 5 years. Looks like they are A10 for everything else. Wouldnt be a bad option for a football only CAA team.

Cluley, Standard Downs: 5-9, 129 yards, 14.33 YPA, TD, 2 INT, 2 1st Downs
Cluley, Passing Downs: 6-8, 122 yards, 15.25 YPA, 2 TD, 4 1st Downs, 2 sacks

On passing downs Cluley completed all of his passes he threw and either moved the chains or got a TD; the two times he was unsuccessful were sacks. He wasn't in 2nd/3rd and long a lot but when he was he torched Duquesne. W&M punted on their first drive and never punted again. We're talking a lot about Duquesne's QB but Cluley was great as well just with fewer passing attempts.

Cluley has now thrown 5 picks in his last 52 passes (including sacks, his last 55 dropbacks). He threw 2 picks in 283 dropbacks his first 10 games this year. He threw 4 picks in 322 dropbacks last year. I think this is just regression to the mean. It's still a little concerning. His first pick yesterday wasn't his fault. His 2nd pick was a pretty bad brain cramp. As we saw against UR the first time the offense can't pass up scoring chances via dumb turnover and expect to win.

(11-29-2015 01:46 PM)Rocco Wrote:  Cluley, Standard Downs: 5-9, 129 yards, 14.33 YPA, TD, 2 INT, 2 1st Downs
Cluley, Passing Downs: 6-8, 122 yards, 15.25 YPA, 2 TD, 4 1st Downs, 2 sacks

On passing downs Cluley completed all of his passes he threw and either moved the chains or got a TD; the two times he was unsuccessful were sacks. He wasn't in 2nd/3rd and long a lot but when he was he torched Duquesne. W&M punted on their first drive and never punted again. We're talking a lot about Duquesne's QB but Cluley was great as well just with fewer passing attempts.

Cluley has now thrown 5 picks in his last 52 passes (including sacks, his last 55 dropbacks). He threw 2 picks in 283 dropbacks his first 10 games this year. He threw 4 picks in 322 dropbacks last year. I think this is just regression to the mean. It's still a little concerning. His first pick yesterday wasn't his fault. His 2nd pick was a pretty bad brain cramp. As we saw against UR the first time the offense can't pass up scoring chances via dumb turnover and expect to win.

Is it useful to know that he "threw" another 2 ints at UR but the DBs dropped them (right in their hands).

(11-29-2015 02:14 PM)wanm65 Wrote:  

(11-29-2015 01:46 PM)Rocco Wrote:  Cluley, Standard Downs: 5-9, 129 yards, 14.33 YPA, TD, 2 INT, 2 1st Downs
Cluley, Passing Downs: 6-8, 122 yards, 15.25 YPA, 2 TD, 4 1st Downs, 2 sacks

On passing downs Cluley completed all of his passes he threw and either moved the chains or got a TD; the two times he was unsuccessful were sacks. He wasn't in 2nd/3rd and long a lot but when he was he torched Duquesne. W&M punted on their first drive and never punted again. We're talking a lot about Duquesne's QB but Cluley was great as well just with fewer passing attempts.

Cluley has now thrown 5 picks in his last 52 passes (including sacks, his last 55 dropbacks). He threw 2 picks in 283 dropbacks his first 10 games this year. He threw 4 picks in 322 dropbacks last year. I think this is just regression to the mean. It's still a little concerning. His first pick yesterday wasn't his fault. His 2nd pick was a pretty bad brain cramp. As we saw against UR the first time the offense can't pass up scoring chances via dumb turnover and expect to win.

Is it useful to know that he "threw" another 2 ints at UR but the DBs dropped them (right in their hands).

The bolded part is useful. It would be just as useful to know the same stat about receivers that got their hands on passes and dropped them. For this to be truly useful both need to be known.

(11-29-2015 10:31 AM)hktribefan Wrote:  

(11-29-2015 10:26 AM)Tribal Wrote:  I watched the game again. I think it was a mistake to basically rush 3 with very little blitzing. I think our DL played very well. Our LBs and secondary played loose but made some great plays to go with some coverages where our guys were out of position.

Great play calling and execution on offense. The flea-flicker and going deep on 4th down were really gutsy calls.

Word of caution to future opponents: Don't take W&M for a soft team and try to push us around. We'll punch you in your big mouth and kick your butt as you walk, tail tucked, back to your bus.

I wonder if we thought we could be effective against what we thought was a lesser team only rushing 3.

We also went to a 3 man line and soft zone in the JMU & Richmond games for long stretches, so I don't think it was saved for a "lesser" team. I personally don't like this defense and feel the 4 man line with blitzes mixed in is generally more effective with our personnel, as was stated earlier in this thread.

(11-29-2015 05:51 PM)LeadBolt Wrote:  

(11-29-2015 02:14 PM)wanm65 Wrote:  

(11-29-2015 01:46 PM)Rocco Wrote:  Cluley, Standard Downs: 5-9, 129 yards, 14.33 YPA, TD, 2 INT, 2 1st Downs
Cluley, Passing Downs: 6-8, 122 yards, 15.25 YPA, 2 TD, 4 1st Downs, 2 sacks

On passing downs Cluley completed all of his passes he threw and either moved the chains or got a TD; the two times he was unsuccessful were sacks. He wasn't in 2nd/3rd and long a lot but when he was he torched Duquesne. W&M punted on their first drive and never punted again. We're talking a lot about Duquesne's QB but Cluley was great as well just with fewer passing attempts.

Cluley has now thrown 5 picks in his last 52 passes (including sacks, his last 55 dropbacks). He threw 2 picks in 283 dropbacks his first 10 games this year. He threw 4 picks in 322 dropbacks last year. I think this is just regression to the mean. It's still a little concerning. His first pick yesterday wasn't his fault. His 2nd pick was a pretty bad brain cramp. As we saw against UR the first time the offense can't pass up scoring chances via dumb turnover and expect to win.

Is it useful to know that he "threw" another 2 ints at UR but the DBs dropped them (right in their hands).

The bolded part is useful. It would be just as useful to know the same stat about receivers that got their hands on passes and dropped them. For this to be truly useful both need to be known.

If you are referring to the Richmond game there were 4 drops, yesterday only 1 that I can recall on the one int.

(11-29-2015 10:36 AM)Tribal Wrote:  Maybe, but our DC had 60 minutes to adjust. 14-0 was reason enough to rethink that strategy. I think we're a better defense when we rush 4 and/or mix in blitzes. Harvey and Rhodes tend to do that very well so let's hope they're on the field Saturday. It's also worth mentioning that Duquesne enjoyed excellent field position following poor KO coverage, costly penalties late in the game, and turnovers.

Yep, an adjustment would have been a good idea. Mr. Ribe commented early in the game that the three-man rush was not working.

(11-29-2015 07:34 PM)Mrs. Got Ribe Wrote:  

(11-29-2015 10:36 AM)Tribal Wrote:  Maybe, but our DC had 60 minutes to adjust. 14-0 was reason enough to rethink that strategy. I think we're a better defense when we rush 4 and/or mix in blitzes. Harvey and Rhodes tend to do that very well so let's hope they're on the field Saturday. It's also worth mentioning that Duquesne enjoyed excellent field position following poor KO coverage, costly penalties late in the game, and turnovers.

Yep, an adjustment would have been a good idea. Mr. Ribe commented early in the game that the three-man rush was not working.

He wasn't the only one wanting an adjustment. The QB was too "comfortable" back there. We needed to at least hit him & get him out of his comfort zone (like UR did to Cluely last week). It's not sacks so much as it is to put some pressure on the QB and get him looking & thinking about somebody other than his receivers (although sacks are nice).

Also, I am no expert - but why not put DHC on #19's side of the field & help out deep & let our corner play 19 tighter short? He killed us. Why not make someone else beat you? Their QB looked for 19 on almost every key play.

Yeah, you asked for that at halftime. They didn't make that adjustment, either.

The issue is we have only one DL that has consistently pressured the passer, Tyler Claytor. Against UR we blitzed a ton in the first half and did not get to the QB with any of those blitzes leaving our secondary exposed. So, if you can't get to the QB with four down linemen and blitzing LBs, it makes sense to go with three or four DL and keep seven or eight in coverage. Blitzing or being aggressive is counter-productive if you don't land any punches.

To me, this is the biggest issue we face in the rematch. I think we'll improve both running the ball and slowing their run in the rematch. I also expect Cluley to have a better day if the OL can protect him. However, rushing the passer has been an issue against all the better teams we have played and I don't see that suddenly changing next week. Its not a scheme issue. It's an issue with winning one on one match-ups. So, in my opinion, our best bet is to bend between the 20s, limit our blitzes, keep the ball in front of us, and tackle well. If we have an opportunity to get off the field or create a TO we need to make the key plays, especially when UR faces 3rd and long.

Hopefully Harvey and Haislip are healthy. I believe they are the best pass-rushing LBs.

We lost the battle in the trenches badly in the first matchup. We'll need to at least hold our own to win the rematch.

Highlight video is up, and includes a note that per NCAA regulations only 2 minutes of game footage can be included. I guess this means no game recap later today. I know the NCAA is one of the most oppressive organizations, but this seems like a silly rule. I also think it's silly that there could be no adds anywhere around the stadium or on the video board. It's one thing to say you can't have your home announcer or hype-up videos, but that seems like easy money. Even though the NCAA brings in ridiculous amounts of money from the FBS bowls/playoffs and the men's NCAAT, they are clearly very worried about costs for the FCS playoffs as evidenced by the regionalization to minimize spending. If they're so worried, I really don't see what advantage having some ads would do.

(11-30-2015 12:28 AM)WMTribe90 Wrote:  The issue is we have only one DL that has consistently pressured the passer, Tyler Claytor. Against UR we blitzed a ton in the first half and did not get to the QB with any of those blitzes leaving our secondary exposed. So, if you can't get to the QB with four down linemen and blitzing LBs, it makes sense to go with three or four DL and keep seven or eight in coverage. Blitzing or being aggressive is counter-productive if you don't land any punches.

To me, this is the biggest issue we face in the rematch. I think we'll improve both running the ball and slowing their run in the rematch. I also expect Cluley to have a better day if the OL can protect him. However, rushing the passer has been an issue against all the better teams we have played and I don't see that suddenly changing next week. Its not a scheme issue. It's an issue with winning one on one match-ups. So, in my opinion, our best bet is to bend between the 20s, limit our blitzes, keep the ball in front of us, and tackle well. If we have an opportunity to get off the field or create a TO we need to make the key plays, especially when UR faces 3rd and long.

Hopefully Harvey and Haislip are healthy. I believe they are the best pass-rushing LBs.

We lost the battle in the trenches badly in the first matchup. We'll need to at least hold our own to win the rematch.

Our blitzing needs some variety. It seems like the same style every time. Throw in a delayed blitz or something.