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RE: Since the Paris Attacks
(11-18-2015 04:34 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote: A march against it anywhere. It's 99% of them after all. You'd think 99% had some kind of pull.
Maybe I missed it, but I haven't seen a march against the Paris attacks by anybody.
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RE: Since the Paris Attacks
(11-18-2015 04:39 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote: (11-18-2015 04:36 PM)CardFan1 Wrote: (11-18-2015 04:29 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote: Has there been any Muslim solidarity movement/march/gathering that has formed to denounce these actions? Like anywhere? Have any prominent Islamic religious leaders denounced these actions? Honestly....and I'm not talking about some twitter or facebook post.
So far since the Paris attacks, we've seen Muslims booing and chanting Allahu Akbar during a moment of silence at a soccer game as a collective response.
We've seen Muslims stabbing Jewish teachers in France.
We've been Muslims in Boko Haram committing mass murder.
I'm kind of waiting on the Muslim community (the peaceful 99% of Muslims) to solidify and do something......how can a "peaceful 99%" be so completely drowned out by "a few rotten apples?"
The Number obviously is way ,way below 99%
But liberal talking points say so. All of the terrorist acts committed by Muslims....all the violence and hate....it all comes from "a few bad apples."
Isn't it crazy though.....how worked up they can get because a baker refused to make a cake for a gay wedding or companies refusing to provide free birth control and subsequently bash Christianity.....remember how mad they were.....now consider and contrast that with the reactions of some of them to these attacks in Paris.
My middle schooler had a reading assignment with writings from Jewish and Palestinian children. Reading the Palestinians was pretty chilling if you hope for peaceful coexistence. They were taught hate. They mostly wanted to grow up and kill Jews.
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RE: Since the Paris Attacks
(11-19-2015 08:58 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote: Right Wing Mainstream media huh? Please. The silence is deafening from this group so called majority of Muzzies.
It's out there, just have to look. It's not going to be reported on the 24 hr news channels, etc.
muslims condemn paris attacks
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RE: Since the Paris Attacks
(11-19-2015 09:34 AM)gsu95 Wrote: (11-18-2015 04:34 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote: A march against it anywhere. It's 99% of them after all. You'd think 99% had some kind of pull.
Maybe I missed it, but I haven't seen a march against the Paris attacks by anybody.
Intriguing point actually.
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RE: Since the Paris Attacks
(11-19-2015 09:49 AM)VA49er Wrote: (11-19-2015 08:58 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote: Right Wing Mainstream media huh? Please. The silence is deafening from this group so called majority of Muzzies.
It's out there, just have to look. It's not going to be reported on the 24 hr news channels, etc.
muslims condemn paris attacks
That's mostly a bunch of social media nonsense and people hiding behind hashtags and a keyboard. I'm not talking about that. That won't change a thing and only reinforces my theory that the "99%" of Muslims either don't have the balls to change anything or the 99% just isn't 99%.
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RE: Since the Paris Attacks
Tunisians have marched against terrorism multiple times and by the thousands.
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RE: Since the Paris Attacks
(11-19-2015 10:27 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: Tunisians have marched against terrorism multiple times and by the thousands.
Tunisia was the only benefactor of the so-called "Arab Spring."
They're the proverbial "beacon on the hill" in that region. Why we give more money to their Islamofascist neighbors is beyond me....
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RE: Since the Paris Attacks
An interesting read and insight into the feelings and beliefs of a "Moderate Muslim"
http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/the-probl...e-muslims/
"In my childhood I was told that every day that passes on the Islamic nation without a caliphate is a sin. That the failures and miseries of the Muslim world started the moment we gave up conquests and wars against the infidels. That our prosperity depends on conquering new lands, converting new believers, looting new resources and enslaving more women. I was taught that a Jew is essentially a demon in flesh and that it is our destiny as good Muslims to kill them all. I was regularly fueled by battle stories and stories of lethal feuds of seventh century Arabia. It was not just me, a small child in Cairo, who was raised with these great apocalyptic prophecies, it was also so many people from all around the globe."
" Almost in every single occasion that Islamic terrorism is mentioned, Muslims’ first action is to defend their faith. They assert over and over how peaceful and beautiful Islam is. They are obsessed with their religion and care about it more than they care about stopping murder in its name. It should be clear that this kind of obsession is just another form of fundamentalism. The time has come to talk about how unhelpful and unhealthy their constant obsession with Islam is. Those Muslims need to know that it is more important right now to direct their efforts inside their communities to battle extremism than to polish the image of a faith soaked in blood. Constantly using the rhetoric of Islamophobia and defending their faith as if it was under attack does not help us to promote peace but actually makes the job of terrorist recruiters easier."
"If we are sincere about solving this pressing global issue, then we should be honest and truthful. We can’t fight cruel terrorists while we ally ourselves with people who commit similar atrocities but have more oil. We can’t allow ourselves to deceive our Muslim friends that it is their right to oppose free speech, LGBT rights, women’s rights etc. Moderate Muslims should not be part of the problem, they should be the solution. Islamic extremism will not be “degraded and ultimately destroyed” unless it is Muslims themselves who fight it. Being obsessed with religion is not a proper response and we should be honest and clear about that. I am aware of the fact that all I’m sharing is tough and not easy to do, but I can assure you that closing our eyes to reality will do us no good. Only acknowledging it will allow us to take our first steps toward a profound and desperately needed reform."
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RE: Since the Paris Attacks
(11-18-2015 04:29 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote: Has there been any Muslim solidarity movement/march/gathering that has formed to denounce these actions? Like anywhere? Have any prominent Islamic religious leaders denounced these actions? Honestly....and I'm not talking about some twitter or facebook post.
So far since the Paris attacks, we've seen Muslims booing and chanting Allahu Akbar during a moment of silence at a soccer game as a collective response.
We've seen Muslims stabbing Jewish teachers in France.
We've been Muslims in Boko Haram committing mass murder.
I'm kind of waiting on the Muslim community (the peaceful 99% of Muslims) to solidify and do something......how can a "peaceful 99%" be so completely drowned out by "a few rotten apples?"
I've barely even paid attention to the Paris bombings and I'm aware of the denouncing of it across the globe from other Muslims and Muslim organizations.
Try harder.
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Since the Paris Attacks
Link??
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RE: Since the Paris Attacks
(11-19-2015 11:16 AM)200yrs2late Wrote: An interesting read and insight into the feelings and beliefs of a "Moderate Muslim"
http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/the-probl...e-muslims/
"In my childhood I was told that every day that passes on the Islamic nation without a caliphate is a sin. That the failures and miseries of the Muslim world started the moment we gave up conquests and wars against the infidels. That our prosperity depends on conquering new lands, converting new believers, looting new resources and enslaving more women. I was taught that a Jew is essentially a demon in flesh and that it is our destiny as good Muslims to kill them all. I was regularly fueled by battle stories and stories of lethal feuds of seventh century Arabia. It was not just me, a small child in Cairo, who was raised with these great apocalyptic prophecies, it was also so many people from all around the globe."
" Almost in every single occasion that Islamic terrorism is mentioned, Muslims’ first action is to defend their faith. They assert over and over how peaceful and beautiful Islam is. They are obsessed with their religion and care about it more than they care about stopping murder in its name. It should be clear that this kind of obsession is just another form of fundamentalism. The time has come to talk about how unhelpful and unhealthy their constant obsession with Islam is. Those Muslims need to know that it is more important right now to direct their efforts inside their communities to battle extremism than to polish the image of a faith soaked in blood. Constantly using the rhetoric of Islamophobia and defending their faith as if it was under attack does not help us to promote peace but actually makes the job of terrorist recruiters easier."
"If we are sincere about solving this pressing global issue, then we should be honest and truthful. We can’t fight cruel terrorists while we ally ourselves with people who commit similar atrocities but have more oil. We can’t allow ourselves to deceive our Muslim friends that it is their right to oppose free speech, LGBT rights, women’s rights etc. Moderate Muslims should not be part of the problem, they should be the solution. Islamic extremism will not be “degraded and ultimately destroyed” unless it is Muslims themselves who fight it. Being obsessed with religion is not a proper response and we should be honest and clear about that. I am aware of the fact that all I’m sharing is tough and not easy to do, but I can assure you that closing our eyes to reality will do us no good. Only acknowledging it will allow us to take our first steps toward a profound and desperately needed reform."
Very eye opening.
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RE: Since the Paris Attacks
(11-19-2015 11:31 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (11-18-2015 04:29 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote: Has there been any Muslim solidarity movement/march/gathering that has formed to denounce these actions? Like anywhere? Have any prominent Islamic religious leaders denounced these actions? Honestly....and I'm not talking about some twitter or facebook post.
So far since the Paris attacks, we've seen Muslims booing and chanting Allahu Akbar during a moment of silence at a soccer game as a collective response.
We've seen Muslims stabbing Jewish teachers in France.
We've been Muslims in Boko Haram committing mass murder.
I'm kind of waiting on the Muslim community (the peaceful 99% of Muslims) to solidify and do something......how can a "peaceful 99%" be so completely drowned out by "a few rotten apples?"
I've barely even paid attention to the Paris bombings and I'm aware of the denouncing of it across the globe from other Muslims and Muslim organizations.
Try harder.
If it's so easy, link me an article (preferably with photos) of Muslims marching/protesting/gathering en masse to denounce the attacks. Hell, I'll qualify en masse as anything more than 500 people. That isn't much. Especially if they're 99% of Muslim populace.
I want there to be these protests....but I'm not sure they're happening.
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RE: Since the Paris Attacks
#NotInMyName has been retweeted a little less than 100k times since the attacks and several Muslim leader openly denounced the attacks, but that's a mighty insignificant percentage of the peaceful Muslims
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RE: Since the Paris Attacks
(11-19-2015 11:53 AM)200yrs2late Wrote: #NotInMyName has been retweeted a little less than 100k times since the attacks and several Muslim leader openly denounced the attacks, but that's a mighty insignificant percentage of the peaceful Muslims
Not that I care one iota about that stupid, pointless hashtag that will accomplish nothing, but I imagine most of the "retweets" came from bleeding heart non-Muslim liberals whose worldviews are clinging to a thread.....and the thread gets thinner by the day.
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RE: Since the Paris Attacks
(11-19-2015 11:52 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote: (11-19-2015 11:31 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (11-18-2015 04:29 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote: Has there been any Muslim solidarity movement/march/gathering that has formed to denounce these actions? Like anywhere? Have any prominent Islamic religious leaders denounced these actions? Honestly....and I'm not talking about some twitter or facebook post.
So far since the Paris attacks, we've seen Muslims booing and chanting Allahu Akbar during a moment of silence at a soccer game as a collective response.
We've seen Muslims stabbing Jewish teachers in France.
We've been Muslims in Boko Haram committing mass murder.
I'm kind of waiting on the Muslim community (the peaceful 99% of Muslims) to solidify and do something......how can a "peaceful 99%" be so completely drowned out by "a few rotten apples?"
I've barely even paid attention to the Paris bombings and I'm aware of the denouncing of it across the globe from other Muslims and Muslim organizations.
Try harder.
If it's so easy, link me an article (preferably with photos) of Muslims marching/protesting/gathering en masse to denounce the attacks. Hell, I'll qualify en masse as anything more than 500 people. That isn't much. Especially if they're 99% of Muslim populace.
I want there to be these protests....but I'm not sure they're happening.
Wow...that took about a minute. As I said...try harder.
Quote:Thousands of Muslims across dozens of cities came out on the streets on Wednesday chanting slogans and raising banners against ISIL and its affiliated groups, Madani said.
Indian Muslims protest against deadly ISIL attacks
And what do you think would happen in America if a bunch of Muslims would go on a march in an American city.
Someone would likely get shot in this current climate.
(This post was last modified: 11-19-2015 12:15 PM by Redwingtom.)
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RE: Since the Paris Attacks
(11-19-2015 12:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: (11-19-2015 11:52 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote: (11-19-2015 11:31 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (11-18-2015 04:29 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote: Has there been any Muslim solidarity movement/march/gathering that has formed to denounce these actions? Like anywhere? Have any prominent Islamic religious leaders denounced these actions? Honestly....and I'm not talking about some twitter or facebook post.
So far since the Paris attacks, we've seen Muslims booing and chanting Allahu Akbar during a moment of silence at a soccer game as a collective response.
We've seen Muslims stabbing Jewish teachers in France.
We've been Muslims in Boko Haram committing mass murder.
I'm kind of waiting on the Muslim community (the peaceful 99% of Muslims) to solidify and do something......how can a "peaceful 99%" be so completely drowned out by "a few rotten apples?"
I've barely even paid attention to the Paris bombings and I'm aware of the denouncing of it across the globe from other Muslims and Muslim organizations.
Try harder.
If it's so easy, link me an article (preferably with photos) of Muslims marching/protesting/gathering en masse to denounce the attacks. Hell, I'll qualify en masse as anything more than 500 people. That isn't much. Especially if they're 99% of Muslim populace.
I want there to be these protests....but I'm not sure they're happening.
Wow...that took about a minute. As I said...try harder.
Quote:Thousands of Muslims across dozens of cities came out on the streets on Wednesday chanting slogans and raising banners against ISIL and its affiliated groups, Madani said.
Indian Muslims protest against deadly ISIL attacks
And what do you think would happen in America if a bunch of Muslims would go on a march in an American city.
Someone would likely get shot in this current climate.
I see an Al-Jazeera article with pictures of about 15 Muslims with picket signs and some unsubstantiated claims with very little details.
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RE: Since the Paris Attacks
(11-19-2015 11:57 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote: (11-19-2015 11:53 AM)200yrs2late Wrote: #NotInMyName has been retweeted a little less than 100k times since the attacks and several Muslim leader openly denounced the attacks, but that's a mighty insignificant percentage of the peaceful Muslims
Not that I care one iota about that stupid, pointless hashtag that will accomplish nothing, but I imagine most of the "retweets" came from bleeding heart non-Muslim liberals whose worldviews are clinging to a thread.....and the thread gets thinner by the day.
I think the social media stuff is pointless as well, but I looked through and most of them take selfies holding a sign with the hashtag on it. It seems like a legit 'movement' though most seem to be in Western countries.
One a side note, I liked and shared a variation of the following image that had the temporary profile french flag thing overlayed to make fun of everybody changing the profile pics and Facebook decided to delete my post this morning. I'm rather pissed about that. It didn't violate any FB rules.
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RE: Since the Paris Attacks
(11-19-2015 12:21 PM)200yrs2late Wrote: (11-19-2015 11:57 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote: (11-19-2015 11:53 AM)200yrs2late Wrote: #NotInMyName has been retweeted a little less than 100k times since the attacks and several Muslim leader openly denounced the attacks, but that's a mighty insignificant percentage of the peaceful Muslims
Not that I care one iota about that stupid, pointless hashtag that will accomplish nothing, but I imagine most of the "retweets" came from bleeding heart non-Muslim liberals whose worldviews are clinging to a thread.....and the thread gets thinner by the day.
I think the social media stuff is pointless as well, but I looked through and most of them take selfies holding a sign with the hashtag on it. It seems like a legit 'movement' though most seem to be in Western countries.
One a side note, I liked and shared a variation of the following image that had the temporary profile french flag thing overlayed to make fun of everybody changing the profile pics and Facebook decided to delete my post this morning. I'm rather pissed about that. It didn't violate any FB rules.
Oh Ralph!
I LOLed at that.
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RE: Since the Paris Attacks
(11-19-2015 12:17 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote: (11-19-2015 12:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: (11-19-2015 11:52 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote: (11-19-2015 11:31 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (11-18-2015 04:29 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote: Has there been any Muslim solidarity movement/march/gathering that has formed to denounce these actions? Like anywhere? Have any prominent Islamic religious leaders denounced these actions? Honestly....and I'm not talking about some twitter or facebook post.
So far since the Paris attacks, we've seen Muslims booing and chanting Allahu Akbar during a moment of silence at a soccer game as a collective response.
We've seen Muslims stabbing Jewish teachers in France.
We've been Muslims in Boko Haram committing mass murder.
I'm kind of waiting on the Muslim community (the peaceful 99% of Muslims) to solidify and do something......how can a "peaceful 99%" be so completely drowned out by "a few rotten apples?"
I've barely even paid attention to the Paris bombings and I'm aware of the denouncing of it across the globe from other Muslims and Muslim organizations.
Try harder.
If it's so easy, link me an article (preferably with photos) of Muslims marching/protesting/gathering en masse to denounce the attacks. Hell, I'll qualify en masse as anything more than 500 people. That isn't much. Especially if they're 99% of Muslim populace.
I want there to be these protests....but I'm not sure they're happening.
Wow...that took about a minute. As I said...try harder.
Quote:Thousands of Muslims across dozens of cities came out on the streets on Wednesday chanting slogans and raising banners against ISIL and its affiliated groups, Madani said.
Indian Muslims protest against deadly ISIL attacks
And what do you think would happen in America if a bunch of Muslims would go on a march in an American city.
Someone would likely get shot in this current climate.
I see an Al-Jazeera article with pictures of about 15 Muslims with picket signs and some unsubstantiated claims with very little details.
Then it clearly didn't happen and was just all made up.
Pathetic.
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