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RE: Arkansas State at Appalachian State Discussion thread
(11-07-2015 10:13 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  
(11-07-2015 10:01 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(11-07-2015 09:30 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  
(11-07-2015 09:22 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(11-07-2015 09:19 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  So you listened to the interview and think Bell is wrong about his observations, or that he is making it up for some reason?

I agree it is just competing hard to gain a fair advantage, and have zero problem with APP doing it.

It wasn't like he was questioned in detail about what he was talking about or the circumstances. If he wants to clarify he can. Until then, I have no idea what occurred.

He volunteered the information. He said they were trying to steal signals.

Just answer the question. Do you believe our OC is wrong, or do you believe he is fabricating that narrative for some reason.

Sorry Mr. Prosecutor. I don't know exactly what he meant or what the circumstances were that he was speaking of. So to avoid a misinterpretation I'm not going to MAKE SOME S*** up.
That is such a weak ass deflective response. I expected better from you.

You stated it was probably BS. I guess THAT was probably BS on your part. I will ignore you henceforth. Sorry to have overvalued your opinion and bothered you by asking for your reasoning.

Your interpretation of what he said is what was being referred to as "probably BS". I can't call what he said probably BS because I am not even certain what he meant by it.
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(11-07-2015 10:23 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(11-07-2015 10:13 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  
(11-07-2015 10:01 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(11-07-2015 09:30 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  
(11-07-2015 09:22 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  It wasn't like he was questioned in detail about what he was talking about or the circumstances. If he wants to clarify he can. Until then, I have no idea what occurred.

He volunteered the information. He said they were trying to steal signals.

Just answer the question. Do you believe our OC is wrong, or do you believe he is fabricating that narrative for some reason.

Sorry Mr. Prosecutor. I don't know exactly what he meant or what the circumstances were that he was speaking of. So to avoid a misinterpretation I'm not going to MAKE SOME S*** up.
That is such a weak ass deflective response. I expected better from you.

You stated it was probably BS. I guess THAT was probably BS on your part. I will ignore you henceforth. Sorry to have overvalued your opinion and bothered you by asking for your reasoning.

Your interpretation of what he said is what was being referred to as "probably BS". I can't call what he said probably BS because I am not even certain what he meant by it.
Thus being BS!
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Love this thread...two stAte guys arguing with each other...an App guy and a GS guy are disagreeing with each other...triffids are probably lurking in my shrubs....BTW who won the game and is in first place now?
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RE: Arkansas State at Appalachian State Discussion thread
(11-07-2015 10:29 PM)hendoapp Wrote:  
(11-07-2015 10:23 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(11-07-2015 10:13 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  
(11-07-2015 10:01 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(11-07-2015 09:30 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  He volunteered the information. He said they were trying to steal signals.

Just answer the question. Do you believe our OC is wrong, or do you believe he is fabricating that narrative for some reason.

Sorry Mr. Prosecutor. I don't know exactly what he meant or what the circumstances were that he was speaking of. So to avoid a misinterpretation I'm not going to MAKE SOME S*** up.
That is such a weak ass deflective response. I expected better from you.

You stated it was probably BS. I guess THAT was probably BS on your part. I will ignore you henceforth. Sorry to have overvalued your opinion and bothered you by asking for your reasoning.

Your interpretation of what he said is what was being referred to as "probably BS". I can't call what he said probably BS because I am not even certain what he meant by it.
Thus being BS!
LOL. You clowns crack me up. Good show!
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(11-07-2015 10:30 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  Love this thread...two stAte guys arguing with each other...an App guy and a GS guy are disagreeing with each other...triffids are probably lurking in my shrubs....BTW who won the game and is in first place now?

The problem was he thought I was saying what Bell said was probably BS, when what I was referring to was speculation in the thread probably being BS.

But its good to see someone stand up for Bell. That's been unusual this year.
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(11-07-2015 10:37 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(11-07-2015 10:30 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  Love this thread...two stAte guys arguing with each other...an App guy and a GS guy are disagreeing with each other...triffids are probably lurking in my shrubs....BTW who won the game and is in first place now?

The problem was he thought I was saying what Bell said was probably BS, when what I was referring to was speculation in the thread probably being BS.

But its good to see someone stand up for Bell. That's been unusual this year.

See that would have been so easy for me to understand . . . yet now I don't believe it even a little . . . moving on - sorry to have accosted you.
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(11-07-2015 10:40 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  See that would have been so easy for me to understand . . . yet now I don't believe it even a little . . . moving on - sorry to have accosted you.

It took a minute to figure out the problem. Apparently neither one of us are perfect.
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(11-07-2015 08:31 PM)hendoapp Wrote:  That's pretty ridiculous statement did I miss the guy with binoculars on app side or something . Apps are better than a state and it showed in the first half we just have depth issues. I will say this a state did look bigger and more athletic than we did.

Lets not get ridiculous here. Going into the game, App was allowing 298 yards per game. AState had 294 yards in the 3rd quarter alone. We outscored you 23-6 in the second half, and that included 2 possessions in which our coaches admitted that they played very conservative in the Red Zone because we were more interested in running clock than scoring touchdowns.

You got dominated in the 2nd half.

Doesn't make you a bad team, you guys could and should still run the table to finish 10-2...which would be an incredible season. Either way, we'll meet again in a couple years, with you guys having real FBS depth, and we'll beat up on each other again.
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(11-07-2015 10:48 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(11-07-2015 08:31 PM)hendoapp Wrote:  That's pretty ridiculous statement did I miss the guy with binoculars on app side or something . Apps are better than a state and it showed in the first half we just have depth issues. I will say this a state did look bigger and more athletic than we did.

Lets not get ridiculous here. Going into the game, App was allowing 298 yards per game. AState had 294 yards in the 3rd quarter alone. We outscored you 23-6 in the second half, and that included 2 possessions in which our coaches admitted that they played very conservative in the Red Zone because we were more interested in running clock than scoring touchdowns.

You got dominated in the 2nd half.

Doesn't make you a bad team, you guys could and should still run the table to finish 10-2...which would be an incredible season. Either way, we'll meet again in a couple years, with you guys having real FBS depth, and we'll beat up on each other again.

Just remember the series is 1-1 with each team picking up a win on the road. If we win the rest of our games, we will be 10-2 having played every relevant team in the conference from Troy to GS and stAte to ULL. No one has our schedule. If we go 3-1 over the best teams in the league we will have done something special. We just need to heal up and get some of our guys back so we can return to form.
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(11-07-2015 11:44 PM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  Just remember the series is 1-1 with each team picking up a win on the road. If we win the rest of our games, we will be 10-2 having played every relevant team in the conference from Troy to GS and stAte to ULL. No one has our schedule. If we go 3-1 over the best teams in the league we will have done something special. We just need to heal up and get some of our guys back so we can return to form.
That is what a winning culture, good coaching, coaching up, not using 25 year old offensive schemes and using players to their potential will do for any team. It would be nice to have something like that (or even just close) at TXST before I kick my last field goal.
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The laser was a distraction.
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(11-07-2015 11:44 PM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  
(11-07-2015 10:48 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(11-07-2015 08:31 PM)hendoapp Wrote:  That's pretty ridiculous statement did I miss the guy with binoculars on app side or something . Apps are better than a state and it showed in the first half we just have depth issues. I will say this a state did look bigger and more athletic than we did.

Lets not get ridiculous here. Going into the game, App was allowing 298 yards per game. AState had 294 yards in the 3rd quarter alone. We outscored you 23-6 in the second half, and that included 2 possessions in which our coaches admitted that they played very conservative in the Red Zone because we were more interested in running clock than scoring touchdowns.

You got dominated in the 2nd half.

Doesn't make you a bad team, you guys could and should still run the table to finish 10-2...which would be an incredible season. Either way, we'll meet again in a couple years, with you guys having real FBS depth, and we'll beat up on each other again.

Just remember the series is 1-1 with each team picking up a win on the road. If we win the rest of our games, we will be 10-2 having played every relevant team in the conference from Troy to GS and stAte to ULL. No one has our schedule. If we go 3-1 over the best teams in the league we will have done something special. We just need to heal up and get some of our guys back so we can return to form.

It's worth noting that we'll own bragging rights for at least 2 years since the two of us don't play next season. We're getting Georgia Southern and Troy instead of you and Idaho...oof.
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From the third TD on when Chapman went out, the LG-C-RG trio was Counts (replacing Collins), Collins (moved from LG) and Collmar (replacing Nunn). That's dog-ass ugly and why App couldn't run the ball. Counts is a senior who was recruited to play against Furman and Wofford and Collmar was converted from the DL. In fact, Collmar getting pushed back is what caused Chapman to roll his ankle.
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(11-08-2015 02:08 AM)T-Dog Wrote:  From the third TD on when Chapman went out, the LG-C-RG trio was Counts (replacing Collins), Collins (moved from LG) and Collmar (replacing Nunn). That's dog-ass ugly and why App couldn't run the ball. Counts is a senior who was recruited to play against Furman and Wofford and Collmar was converted from the DL. In fact, Collmar getting pushed back is what caused Chapman to roll his ankle.

We at AstAte understand injuries and how they can affect a team. Last year we lost 14 starters to season ending injury with most of those being on defense. This was what, more than anything else, caused our mid to late season fall last year. Never seen anything like it.
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Look at Apps yardage before and after Chapman went out this isn't rocket science.

This isn't an excuse it's just a fact, already provided congrats to the winner, ease up people.
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No doubt losing the center put App in a bind. Injuries are a part of the game. If stAte doesn't lose Fredi Knighten in the second half of Mizzou, we likely win. If he plays at Toledo, who knows. We may have had two teams going at it last Thursday with only one loss. App will have more depth in a few years and that is what it takes at the FBS level. A significant drop off from 1s to 2s will kill ya.
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(11-08-2015 03:29 AM)doberman Wrote:  
(11-08-2015 02:08 AM)T-Dog Wrote:  From the third TD on when Chapman went out, the LG-C-RG trio was Counts (replacing Collins), Collins (moved from LG) and Collmar (replacing Nunn). That's dog-ass ugly and why App couldn't run the ball. Counts is a senior who was recruited to play against Furman and Wofford and Collmar was converted from the DL. In fact, Collmar getting pushed back is what caused Chapman to roll his ankle.

We at AstAte understand injuries and how they can affect a team. Last year we lost 14 starters to season ending injury with most of those being on defense. This was what, more than anything else, caused our mid to late season fall last year. Never seen anything like it.

2009 was that bad
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Injuries can provide a rational explanation for a team's subpar performance, but nary a team survives a season without losing a key contributor or two. No doubt, going forward some of these injuries are going to adversely effect our performance and perhaps game outcomes. However, when we beat a team missing a key player we don't let that take away from our win. Likewise, the injury excuse falls flat in this instance as well. In the end, a team has to be able overcome those injuries, we failed to do so and lost to a team good enough to make us pay. It, in no way, takes away from the beating they put on us.
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(11-07-2015 05:02 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  Troy is slaughtering ULM. Wyoming is getting crushed by freaking Colorado State. I think it's fair to say App wasn't as good as us App fans wanted to believe. Apparently SOS does carry some weight. Ark State lost to a bunch of P5 teams. They are the better ball team, plain and simple. And showed it on Thursday.

Guess that makes Ga Southern just plain awful.

We're just remarkable one dimensional right now. Going back and watching the game again, your guys keyed on certain things we did that indicated play/direction since they really didn't have to respect our passing game.

I wouldn't call us a great team, but I wouldn't call us a bad team right now either.

Plus, ya'll put something in the air in Boone whenever we come to town that makes us forget what a football is.

I was actually being sarcastic to my fellow AppFan.
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(11-07-2015 10:18 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  
(11-07-2015 08:07 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  
(11-07-2015 05:02 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  Troy is slaughtering ULM. Wyoming is getting crushed by freaking Colorado State. I think it's fair to say App wasn't as good as us App fans wanted to believe. Apparently SOS does carry some weight. Ark State lost to a bunch of P5 teams. They are the better ball team, plain and simple. And showed it on Thursday.

Guess that makes Ga Southern just plain awful.

No, we lost to App because our starting safety,LB and WR were out for the game. And App lost to Ark St because their center went down in the 3rd Qtr.

Amidoingthisrite?

No. We lost to A State because they were better than us on Thursday night. It didn't help that our center went out in the 2nd qtr and starting RT was also out. Not to mention losing another returning starter prior to season. Hard to win with only one of your OL starters playing the position he started the year at and he was playing with a tweeked hamstring. Not sour grapes, just the facts. Offense couldn't make any yards in the second half and the defense got whupped up on.
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