(10-27-2015 04:19 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 04:08 PM)apex_pirate Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 03:52 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 03:33 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 03:11 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  I don't think it's a compliment to UCF so much as its a statement about the Miami job. USF is also a better job. It's a high pressure job with not the kind of pay that other national programs pay, with bad facilities, in a fickle town and for a small private school. It's not a good job.

Disagree and I'm a USF fan but don't fool yourself UM still a better coaching spot than either UCF and USF

Opinion of ESPN with 100's of thousands of people watching: "UCF job is a better job than Miami"

Random internet forum poster: "no youre wrong"

But how do you know 100's of thousands of people watching view that as props for UCF versus how low the Hurricanes have fallen? You are drinking kool-aid if you think the average fan views it as props to UCF. People on this board, sure. But not the average fan.

I think you are over-estimating the mental capacity of the average ESPN viewer.

Seriously?

Me: "UCF better job than Miami". Average ESPN viewer thinks "Wow, Miami sure has fallen to a low level."

You: "UCF better job than Miami". Average ESPN viewer thinks "Wow, UCF sure has risen up to pass Miami."

Hmmmm....who's over-estimating the mental capacity of the average ESPN viewer?

(10-27-2015 05:14 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  UCF would be both a step up for Doc and a great fit. Excellent recruiting and he has shown the ability to hire good people around him. Miami would be another good place for him. He could build up recruiting base for the Canes. Even is he was to fail he would go a long way to reconnect UM to the the Florida recruiting.

I am pretty sure I read that Miami has had 3 straight top 25 recruiting classes. I think the recruiting and talent is just fine. They need someone who can actually coach. I like UCF but saying that is a better job is boarding on just crazy. Common man!!!

(10-27-2015 06:31 PM)PT_american Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 05:14 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  UCF would be both a step up for Doc and a great fit. Excellent recruiting and he has shown the ability to hire good people around him. Miami would be another good place for him. He could build up recruiting base for the Canes. Even is he was to fail he would go a long way to reconnect UM to the the Florida recruiting.

I am pretty sure I read that Miami has had 3 straight top 25 recruiting classes. I think the recruiting and talent is just fine. They need someone who can actually coach. I like UCF but saying that is a better job is boarding on just crazy. Common man!!!

Is Doc too old?

(10-27-2015 04:37 PM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  How can anyone say UCF is a better job than Miami is hyperbole at its best. No way you discount a school that has won 5 NC. Not every school has that on their resume.

Harvard claims 7. But that was a long time ago. See the point?

I would love to agree with the premise but kannel (fsu) and Finebaum (sec) trolling Miami is more likely

(10-27-2015 07:12 PM)TN Knightfan Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 04:37 PM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  How can anyone say UCF is a better job than Miami is hyperbole at its best. No way you discount a school that has won 5 NC. Not every school has that on their resume.

Harvard claims 7. But that was a long time ago. See the point?

Nope. Have to have objectivity to do that.

(10-27-2015 07:25 PM)shere khan Wrote:  I would love to agree with the premise but kannel (fsu) and Finebaum (sec) trolling Miami is more likely

it is funny that this is coming up from people that have no affiliation with UCF. someone else at ESPN reported that a few Coach's agents are saying they like the UCF job more than Miami on Sunday night. Tin foil caps everywhere are a little curious as to why winless UCF is getting this much love

UCF is the neeeewwww U!

(10-27-2015 03:39 PM)rulethirty Wrote:  Miami can win a NC. We can't.

/thread

Dumbest thing I've ready today, given the fact that it's only year 2 in the playoff system, and already Memphis is being thrown around as a possibility of crashing the party.

Miami cannot win without gross, negligent, exorbitant cheating

Fact

(10-27-2015 03:01 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 02:41 PM)goodknightfl Wrote:  [quote='wavefan12' pid='12560173' dateline='1445973875']
I agree. Miami needs to make a drastic investment in facilities.

UM is done as a major player in college Fb.

Incorrect all they need is a good coach. To say that UCF is a better job than Miami is dumb

FSU=UF
MIAMI
UCF=USF
FAU=FIU
FAMU=BCU
Jacksonville =Stetson

Just being honest

(10-27-2015 09:16 PM)DeeHee33 Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 03:01 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 02:41 PM)goodknightfl Wrote:  [quote='wavefan12' pid='12560173' dateline='1445973875']
I agree. Miami needs to make a drastic investment in facilities.

UM is done as a major player in college Fb.

Incorrect all they need is a good coach. To say that UCF is a better job than Miami is dumb

FSU=UF
MIAMI
UCF=USF
FAU=FIU
FAMU=BCU
Jacksonville =Stetson

It really depends on your perspective as a coach. Miami will be able to pay more, probably 2x or so more, but if your goal is to eventually coach at a top tier team like USC or Texas, it might behoove you to go to UCF instead of Miami for the reasons they talk about in that clip.

You're in a conference which is easier to come out on top in, you've got a fanbase whose never been spoiled by 50+ game home winstreaks and national championships, and our facilities are comparable. There's no question that you can go from a successful AAC team into a top tier program if you prove yourself as a coach, and quite frankly, if that's your endgame, I think the argument could be made UCF is the better option right now.

(10-27-2015 09:16 PM)DeeHee33 Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 03:01 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 02:41 PM)goodknightfl Wrote:  [quote='wavefan12' pid='12560173' dateline='1445973875']
I agree. Miami needs to make a drastic investment in facilities.

UM is done as a major player in college Fb.

Incorrect all they need is a good coach. To say that UCF is a better job than Miami is dumb

FSU=UF
MIAMI
UCF=USF
FAU=FIU
FAMU=BCU
Jacksonville =Stetson

UF
FSU
Miami
UCF
USF
FAU
FIU
FAMU
BCU
Jacksonville
Stetson

(10-27-2015 04:12 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 04:04 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 03:59 PM)Kronke Wrote:  I saw this, and was impressed to see UCF get it's props. If I was a coach and had my choice between the two jobs, I would definitely pick UCF. I think Orlando itself is a city on the rise in the next decade or so. It belongs on those lists with Austin, Portland, Denver, etc.

For the same amount of money. Now if Miami is paying $4-5 million then that is the better job.

UM cn do it, but who will it draw as coaches, We shall see.

They announced yesterday they are willing to g up to $4,000,000

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-mOKMq19zU

(10-27-2015 09:34 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 09:16 PM)DeeHee33 Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 03:01 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 02:41 PM)goodknightfl Wrote:  [quote='wavefan12' pid='12560173' dateline='1445973875']
I agree. Miami needs to make a drastic investment in facilities.

UM is done as a major player in college Fb.

Incorrect all they need is a good coach. To say that UCF is a better job than Miami is dumb

FSU=UF
MIAMI
UCF=USF
FAU=FIU
FAMU=BCU
Jacksonville =Stetson

It really depends on your perspective as a coach. Miami will be able to pay more, probably 2x or so more, but if your goal is to eventually coach at a top tier team like USC or Texas, it might behoove you to go to UCF instead of Miami for the reasons they talk about in that clip.

You're in a conference which is easier to come out on top in, you've got a fanbase whose never been spoiled by 50+ game home winstreaks and national championships, and our facilities are comparable. There's no question that you can go from a successful AAC team into a top tier program if you prove yourself as a coach, and quite frankly, if that's your endgame, I think the argument could be made UCF is the better option right now.

I think that's what a lot of media types are trying to say in a few different ways.

Some of them think that Miami is starting to become a career killer. Most of them like Al Golden and were surprised he struggled there and there is a chance if Golden went to Penn St instead he could have had more success

(10-27-2015 11:01 PM)knightastic Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 09:34 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 09:16 PM)DeeHee33 Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 03:01 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 02:41 PM)goodknightfl Wrote:  [quote='wavefan12' pid='12560173' dateline='1445973875']
I agree. Miami needs to make a drastic investment in facilities.

UM is done as a major player in college Fb.

Incorrect all they need is a good coach. To say that UCF is a better job than Miami is dumb

FSU=UF
MIAMI
UCF=USF
FAU=FIU
FAMU=BCU
Jacksonville =Stetson

It really depends on your perspective as a coach. Miami will be able to pay more, probably 2x or so more, but if your goal is to eventually coach at a top tier team like USC or Texas, it might behoove you to go to UCF instead of Miami for the reasons they talk about in that clip.

You're in a conference which is easier to come out on top in, you've got a fanbase whose never been spoiled by 50+ game home winstreaks and national championships, and our facilities are comparable. There's no question that you can go from a successful AAC team into a top tier program if you prove yourself as a coach, and quite frankly, if that's your endgame, I think the argument could be made UCF is the better option right now.

I think that's what a lot of media types are trying to say in a few different ways.

Some of them think that Miami is starting to become a career killer. Most of them like Al Golden and were surprised he struggled there and there is a chance if Golden went to Penn St instead he could have had more success

You need to ask that to James Franklin in a couple of years. The answer may not be that different.

Well of course UCF is a better job than Miami and I'm no UCF apologist and UCF fans on here get on me about it a lot. (I love their passion about their school though) UCF has a new on campus stadium. Miami pays rent to play in an NFL stadium very very far away from the campus. Miami is a Dolphin, Heat, Marlin, Knicks,Giants, Jets town if they happen to follow sports at all. Orlando has no NFL. Miami is a terrible job compared to UCF. Does anyone even follow Miami Hurricanes athletics anymore? Go to the games there? Miami is so 80's. Velcro, Molly Ringwald, Flock of seagulls are more memorable 80's relics than that group of paid criminals that played at Miami years ago. Cheers!

(10-27-2015 07:57 PM)knightastic Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 07:25 PM)shere khan Wrote:  I would love to agree with the premise but kannel (fsu) and Finebaum (sec) trolling Miami is more likely

it is funny that this is coming up from people that have no affiliation with UCF. someone else at ESPN reported that a few Coach's agents are saying they like the UCF job more than Miami on Sunday night. Tin foil caps everywhere are a little curious as to why winless UCF is getting this much love

As long as Miami is P5 and Ucf is not---there's no contest which is the better job. We all get that don't we? Espn isn't being objective here, they've got a mighty agenda. I mean...


It's Espooge, c'mon...their agenda is cut costs, not 'be nice' to those they've done so much to drive to the brink of oblivion.

Why? Because they've overpaid College & Pros for their content and they're hemorrhaging subscribers. They are cutting jobs big-time....and they are looking to cut costs in other ways. Like, say, cutting a P-5 conference. They cannot possibly launch an ACC network. They know if they do not they will lose the ACC to a competitor...UNLESS they can kill the conference and sell off the parts to the other conferences where they at least will still have a piece of them. It's not like they haven't done this before...

This ain't difficult---everything coming from Espn is basted in their own special BS sauce.

For all you Knight fans, this was a SLAM on Miami by two reporters that do not like UM. They were basically saying UM is so bad that it has SUNK below UCF who is 0-8, NOT UCF has risen past Miami.
Now the truth
Miami can pay more than UCF
It's in a P5 conference
The ACC division they are in is weak
They can still recruit better
All they are missing is a good OFFensively minded coach and they would be in the ACC conference title game consistently

As I said watch who applies and gets both jobs and you will see which job is a better job