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Per ESPN's Jeff Goodman... SMU has decided not to appeal the postseason ban or Larry Brown's 9 game suspension.

Sorry I'm not sorry to hear this.

Edit: Confirmation Link to Article by SMU's President.
http://www.smu.edu/news/ncaa
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10-09-2015 03:18 PM
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Larry should retire and let Jank coach the team...go out on top, with an NCAA tourney.
10-09-2015 03:37 PM
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(10-09-2015 03:37 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Larry should retire and let Jank coach the team...go out on top, with an NCAA tourney.

Agree.
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We want to move on
10-09-2015 03:43 PM
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(10-09-2015 03:43 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  We want to move on

...to your next violation? Lol

I jest. I do hope the SMU program can clean itself up. If, for some reason, Brown departs SMU in the near future, I'd hope they can get a coach who has the talent AND the integrity to build a program the right way.
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(10-09-2015 03:46 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  
(10-09-2015 03:43 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  We want to move on

...to your next violation? Lol

I jest. I do hope the SMU program can clean itself up. If, for some reason, Brown departs SMU in the near future, I'd hope they can get a coach who has the talent AND the integrity to build a program the right way.

Yes we're going to hire your coach to teach us about ethics
10-09-2015 03:46 PM
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RE: SMU Appeal
Dear Members of the University Community:

This past week has been difficult for all of us who love SMU. Following an NCAA investigation of potential rules violations in our men’s basketball and men’s golf programs, the NCAA Committee on Infractions notified us September 29 of its findings and the sanctions it is imposing on those programs. Naturally, our main focus of concern has been on the dedicated student-athletes who work so hard to succeed in their academic and athletic work and what these sanctions mean for them.

It is out of this concern that we have deliberated whether to file an appeal with the NCAA of the Committee’s findings and sanctions.

Let me first say that we regret that violations of NCAA bylaws occurred and we take this matter very seriously. We are committed to full compliance with NCAA and American Athletic Conference bylaws and University values and standards, and we have continually strengthened our compliance program toward that end. As we have learned, however, even the most vigilant and comprehensive compliance programs cannot prevent individual acts of misconduct. Still, this happened in our program and we take responsibility.

As noted in my email last week, when SMU first learned of the potential violations, we took immediate action to investigate the allegations, cooperated fully with the NCAA investigation, and self-imposed meaningful corrective measures and sanctions on our program.

Over the past week, we have heard from hundreds of SMU supporters offering varying perspectives and advice on what steps SMU should take regarding an appeal, and we appreciate everyone’s input and concern. At the same time, we have carefully analyzed the NCAA’s findings and sanctions and have deliberated with internal and external counsel, University and Athletics Department leadership and a special task force of the Board of Trustees.

SMU is the first institution to receive findings and sanctions under the NCAA’s new penalty structure, making it difficult to draw comparisons with previous infractions cases for both the University and the Committee on Infractions. As expected, any new system will generate areas of ambiguity that require correction or clarification. Under this new structure, we expected that the Committee on Infractions might potentially impose additional penalties on top of our self-imposed sanctions, but we also anticipated a greater acknowledgment of our proactive measures as mitigating factors moderating any additional penalties imposed.

Therefore, SMU has decided to appeal several sanctions imposed by the Committee on Infractions and will file our intent to appeal within the mandated 15-day time period, by Oct. 14.

Our appeal will be based not only on expected mitigating factors, but also on what we believe is a misapplication and/or a misinterpretation of the NCAA’s new penalty structure, as well as some notable procedural errors in this case. The sanctions we are appealing include the following:

The duration of scholarship losses in men’s basketball and men’s golf and the duration of recruiting restrictions in men’s basketball.
The penalty level applied to men’s golf and resulting post-season ban both for the team and for individual competition.
The vacating of men’s basketball victories during the 2013-14 season due to the participation of a student deemed ineligible by the Committee.
10-09-2015 03:53 PM
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(10-09-2015 03:46 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(10-09-2015 03:46 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  
(10-09-2015 03:43 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  We want to move on

...to your next violation? Lol

I jest. I do hope the SMU program can clean itself up. If, for some reason, Brown departs SMU in the near future, I'd hope they can get a coach who has the talent AND the integrity to build a program the right way.

Yes we're going to hire your coach to teach us about ethics

Never said we had them. But, we also don't have any history of major sanctions either.

So either:

A) We've been extremely lucky / prudent in what kind of coach we've hired.
B) We're a lot better than SMU at covering it up...
or
C) We cheat and it's done nothing for us.

Maybe a combination of all of those? Who's to say?
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Stay strong, guys. Screw the NCAA
10-09-2015 04:15 PM
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So wait are you appealing or not appealing?
10-09-2015 05:19 PM
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Not appealing the post season ban or Larry's time out for 9 games
10-09-2015 05:30 PM
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(10-09-2015 04:15 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  Stay strong, guys. Screw the NCAA

Yeah screw the NCAA and their little tournament at the end of the season. Cheers!
10-09-2015 05:31 PM
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(10-09-2015 05:31 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(10-09-2015 04:15 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  Stay strong, guys. Screw the NCAA

Yeah screw the NCAA and their little tournament at the end of the season. Cheers!

...and their NIT tournament, and the CBI, and CIT, and the AAC tournament.
10-09-2015 05:39 PM
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(10-09-2015 03:46 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  
(10-09-2015 03:43 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  We want to move on

...to your next violation? Lol

I know you were kidding but I've got a pretty good self-deprecating sense of humor (check my track record) and all I can say after that comment is something I've never said on this board before:

Screw off
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(10-09-2015 05:39 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  
(10-09-2015 05:31 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(10-09-2015 04:15 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  Stay strong, guys. Screw the NCAA

Yeah screw the NCAA and their little tournament at the end of the season. Cheers!

...and their NIT tournament, and the CBI, and CIT, and the AAC tournament.

Those tourneys are useless.

Well, actually the NIT is fun in a weird way. But the others are useless.
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(10-09-2015 06:31 PM)CalallenStang Wrote:  
(10-09-2015 03:46 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  
(10-09-2015 03:43 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  We want to move on

...to your next violation? Lol

I know you were kidding but I've got a pretty good self-deprecating sense of humor (check my track record) and all I can say after that comment is something I've never said on this board before:

Screw off

Yeah that was a bit salty by me. Apologies.
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(10-09-2015 03:46 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(10-09-2015 03:46 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  
(10-09-2015 03:43 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  We want to move on

...to your next violation? Lol

I jest. I do hope the SMU program can clean itself up. If, for some reason, Brown departs SMU in the near future, I'd hope they can get a coach who has the talent AND the integrity to build a program the right way.

Yes we're going to hire your coach to teach us about ethics

Todd Graham?
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(10-09-2015 06:42 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  
(10-09-2015 06:31 PM)CalallenStang Wrote:  
(10-09-2015 03:46 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  
(10-09-2015 03:43 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  We want to move on

...to your next violation? Lol

I know you were kidding but I've got a pretty good self-deprecating sense of humor (check my track record) and all I can say after that comment is something I've never said on this board before:

Screw off

Yeah that was a bit salty by me. Apologies.

No worries. 04-cheers
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(10-09-2015 03:43 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  We want to move on

I've said it before, the best way to do that would be to hire Josh Pastner. Any ban on post-season play would become self-imposed.
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I think Josh would do well with 2 years under Larry. Get Fred to fund it
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