What is up with this sick trend?!?!

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/10/09/tsu...cmp=hplnws

Hopefully the next one catches one in the head by someone carrying before he can do any damage. They are succeeding is the problem and news channels are making these sick phuqs martyrs by plastering the name and face everywhere. Why do you think these all happen in gun free zones?

That's two campus shootings today?????

Somehow I bet this isn't an "I'm angry at the world, I'm going to take it out on whoever is around me." shooting.

(10-09-2015 01:34 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  Hopefully the next one catches one in the head by someone carrying before he can do any damage. They are succeeding is the problem and news channels are making these sick phuqs martyrs by plastering the name and face everywhere. Why do you think these all happen in gun free zones?

They don't. Oregon allows guns on campus and in fact, there were armed students on campus the day of the shooting (Read more ). People sick enough to go on a shooting rampage aren't deterred by guns because they aren't afraid to die.

(10-09-2015 02:30 PM)bullitt_60 Wrote:  That's two campus shootings today?????

Yes, earlier today at NAU.

(10-09-2015 03:25 PM)ButlerGSU Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 01:34 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  Hopefully the next one catches one in the head by someone carrying before he can do any damage. They are succeeding is the problem and news channels are making these sick phuqs martyrs by plastering the name and face everywhere. Why do you think these all happen in gun free zones?

They don't. Oregon allows guns on campus and in fact, there were armed students on campus the day of the shooting (Read more ). People sick enough to go on a shooting rampage aren't deterred by guns because they aren't afraid to die.

So you're telling me a psycho was able to carry out that despicable act because relying on untrained kids to get in public shootouts with killers is a bad idea? Shocking...

(10-09-2015 03:25 PM)ButlerGSU Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 01:34 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  Hopefully the next one catches one in the head by someone carrying before he can do any damage. They are succeeding is the problem and news channels are making these sick phuqs martyrs by plastering the name and face everywhere. Why do you think these all happen in gun free zones?

They don't. Oregon allows guns on campus and in fact, there were armed students on campus the day of the shooting (Read more ). People sick enough to go on a shooting rampage aren't deterred by guns because they aren't afraid to die.

So why not Times Square? Why is it always a school or a mall or theatre? Why are our children not protected by armed guards? They go to places where people are vulnerable and least likely to be armed. I still think the news should stop showing photos and releasing their names... Just report the incident.

(10-09-2015 03:38 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 03:25 PM)ButlerGSU Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 01:34 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  Hopefully the next one catches one in the head by someone carrying before he can do any damage. They are succeeding is the problem and news channels are making these sick phuqs martyrs by plastering the name and face everywhere. Why do you think these all happen in gun free zones?

They don't. Oregon allows guns on campus and in fact, there were armed students on campus the day of the shooting (Read more ). People sick enough to go on a shooting rampage aren't deterred by guns because they aren't afraid to die.

So you're telling me a psycho was able to carry out that despicable act because relying on untrained kids to get in public shootouts with killers is a bad idea? Shocking...

Um the guys that were armed were military. Anyone who carries a weapon has to be trained to do so. The untrained armed kid was the one who killed everyone.

(10-09-2015 03:42 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 03:38 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 03:25 PM)ButlerGSU Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 01:34 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  Hopefully the next one catches one in the head by someone carrying before he can do any damage. They are succeeding is the problem and news channels are making these sick phuqs martyrs by plastering the name and face everywhere. Why do you think these all happen in gun free zones?

They don't. Oregon allows guns on campus and in fact, there were armed students on campus the day of the shooting (Read more ). People sick enough to go on a shooting rampage aren't deterred by guns because they aren't afraid to die.

So you're telling me a psycho was able to carry out that despicable act because relying on untrained kids to get in public shootouts with killers is a bad idea? Shocking...

Um the guys that were armed were military. Anyone who carries a weapon has to be trained to do so. The untrained armed kid was the one who killed everyone.

I think he was being sarcastic and supporting your post.

(10-09-2015 04:19 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 03:42 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 03:38 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 03:25 PM)ButlerGSU Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 01:34 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  Hopefully the next one catches one in the head by someone carrying before he can do any damage. They are succeeding is the problem and news channels are making these sick phuqs martyrs by plastering the name and face everywhere. Why do you think these all happen in gun free zones?

They don't. Oregon allows guns on campus and in fact, there were armed students on campus the day of the shooting (Read more ). People sick enough to go on a shooting rampage aren't deterred by guns because they aren't afraid to die.

So you're telling me a psycho was able to carry out that despicable act because relying on untrained kids to get in public shootouts with killers is a bad idea? Shocking...

Um the guys that were armed were military. Anyone who carries a weapon has to be trained to do so. The untrained armed kid was the one who killed everyone.

I think he was being sarcastic and supporting your post.

That's what I figured at first being from texas... Then I must have read it wrong again

(10-09-2015 03:42 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 03:38 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 03:25 PM)ButlerGSU Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 01:34 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  Hopefully the next one catches one in the head by someone carrying before he can do any damage. They are succeeding is the problem and news channels are making these sick phuqs martyrs by plastering the name and face everywhere. Why do you think these all happen in gun free zones?

They don't. Oregon allows guns on campus and in fact, there were armed students on campus the day of the shooting (Read more ). People sick enough to go on a shooting rampage aren't deterred by guns because they aren't afraid to die.

So you're telling me a psycho was able to carry out that despicable act because relying on untrained kids to get in public shootouts with killers is a bad idea? Shocking...

Um the guys that were armed were military. Anyone who carries a weapon has to be trained to do so. The untrained armed kid was the one who killed everyone.

They were former military...Air Force I believe but enrolled as students at the community college. They chose not to become involved in the situation, which I don't blame them for but I'm just saying, guns don't mean these situations will stop.

(10-09-2015 04:25 PM)ButlerGSU Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 03:42 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 03:38 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 03:25 PM)ButlerGSU Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 01:34 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  Hopefully the next one catches one in the head by someone carrying before he can do any damage. They are succeeding is the problem and news channels are making these sick phuqs martyrs by plastering the name and face everywhere. Why do you think these all happen in gun free zones?

They don't. Oregon allows guns on campus and in fact, there were armed students on campus the day of the shooting (Read more ). People sick enough to go on a shooting rampage aren't deterred by guns because they aren't afraid to die.

So you're telling me a psycho was able to carry out that despicable act because relying on untrained kids to get in public shootouts with killers is a bad idea? Shocking...

Um the guys that were armed were military. Anyone who carries a weapon has to be trained to do so. The untrained armed kid was the one who killed everyone.

They were former military...Air Force I believe but enrolled as students at the community college. They chose not to become involved in the situation, which I don't blame them for but I'm just saying, guns don't mean these situations will stop.

I know it isn't the entire answer... But you can't disarm unarmed people anymore than they already are... And that's why politicians piss me off... They see this fitting an agenda instead of really trying to help fix the problem. The guy who took 7 buckets was mitart but unarmed. Another armed forber military was In a different building and the professor would not allow anyone to leave. It's funny all of our presidents are surrounded by secret service for a square mile but we can fence in our schools and have trained guards at the gate to protect our children. Armed guards protecting best buy on Black Friday... But not our kids... It's bullsht

(10-09-2015 03:40 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 03:25 PM)ButlerGSU Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 01:34 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  Hopefully the next one catches one in the head by someone carrying before he can do any damage. They are succeeding is the problem and news channels are making these sick phuqs martyrs by plastering the name and face everywhere. Why do you think these all happen in gun free zones?

They don't. Oregon allows guns on campus and in fact, there were armed students on campus the day of the shooting (Read more ). People sick enough to go on a shooting rampage aren't deterred by guns because they aren't afraid to die.

So why not Times Square? Why is it always a school or a mall or theatre? Why are our children not protected by armed guards? They go to places where people are vulnerable and least likely to be armed. I still think the news should stop showing photos and releasing their names... Just report the incident.

The age, location, motive and psychology of the killer dictates their target, not the presence of guns. Schools, malls, theaters, military bases, recruiting stations, etc.... when someone is unstable enough to carry out this kind of violence they pick targets they are familiar with and sometimes because it will get attention. These types of people are not rational thinkers who think about consequences or the threat of death. That is why so many take their own lives.

Problem is that we can't even talk about any measures to try and keep guns out of their hands because popular opinion is massaged and distorted by social media and special interests. Nobody needs to talk about banning guns, that is never going to happen. Arming every doofus who wants a gun is not a great idea. Posting armed guards (you would need several at each campus) at every school or college in the nation is cost prohibitive to say the least.

Suggesting that the media not name the killer is just nonsense. The press is not going to censor themselves when their livelihood depends on clicks.

You cannot get rid of all the guns in the US. People who are qualified and stable need to be able to protect themselves without turning the Waffle House into the OK Corral. Let the CDC study gun violence and try to make guns as safe as possible. Require reasonable licensing and exclusions to prevent as many unstable people as possible from acquiring guns. Mass shootings are still very rare but domestic violence and accidental shootings of children are not.

We cannot stop this completely but that is a lame excuse for not trying to slow it down at all.

(10-09-2015 03:42 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 03:38 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 03:25 PM)ButlerGSU Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 01:34 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  Hopefully the next one catches one in the head by someone carrying before he can do any damage. They are succeeding is the problem and news channels are making these sick phuqs martyrs by plastering the name and face everywhere. Why do you think these all happen in gun free zones?

They don't. Oregon allows guns on campus and in fact, there were armed students on campus the day of the shooting (Read more ). People sick enough to go on a shooting rampage aren't deterred by guns because they aren't afraid to die.

So you're telling me a psycho was able to carry out that despicable act because relying on untrained kids to get in public shootouts with killers is a bad idea? Shocking...

Um the guys that were armed were military. Anyone who carries a weapon has to be trained to do so. The untrained armed kid was the one who killed everyone.

So we can count on every school in the country from elementary to college having a good number of combat veterans? Have they not done enough to keep us safe already? Should this responsibility be on their shoulders? Does Louisiana make yall do a combat readiness test when you get your CHLs? And let me get this straight, only people who are trained carry weapons but it was an untrained legal gun owner who carried out the act? This is not an A causes B situation there are a lot of factors that lead to this since-less violence and advocating that if people could just get in shootouts this problem would be resolved is irresponsible.

(10-09-2015 04:29 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 04:25 PM)ButlerGSU Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 03:42 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 03:38 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 03:25 PM)ButlerGSU Wrote:  They don't. Oregon allows guns on campus and in fact, there were armed students on campus the day of the shooting (Read more ). People sick enough to go on a shooting rampage aren't deterred by guns because they aren't afraid to die.

So you're telling me a psycho was able to carry out that despicable act because relying on untrained kids to get in public shootouts with killers is a bad idea? Shocking...

Um the guys that were armed were military. Anyone who carries a weapon has to be trained to do so. The untrained armed kid was the one who killed everyone.

They were former military...Air Force I believe but enrolled as students at the community college. They chose not to become involved in the situation, which I don't blame them for but I'm just saying, guns don't mean these situations will stop.

I know it isn't the entire answer... But you can't disarm unarmed people anymore than they already are... And that's why politicians piss me off... They see this fitting an agenda instead of really trying to help fix the problem. The guy who took 7 buckets was mitart but unarmed. Another armed forber military was In a different building and the professor would not allow anyone to leave. It's funny all of our presidents are surrounded by secret service for a square mile but we can fence in our schools and have trained guards at the gate to protect our children. Armed guards protecting best buy on Black Friday... But not our kids... It's bullsht

How'd that unarmed professor prevent the armed, former military, student from leaving? If that's the case, we should put the professor in charge of security.

The shooting at Northern Arizona was apparently some dude getting in over his head in a fight with a group of frats and making a bad choice to pull his weapon. Whether or not it was planned or spur of the moment, and whether he was legitimately in fear of his life or just a hot head will come out as time goes by.

But the point is that the press it treating it exactly the same as other shootings where a mentally deranged person pre-planned a massacre to go out in a blaze of glory. It doesn't look quite the same.

The Texas Southern shooting appears to be off-campus in an apartment complex where other shootings have occurred recently. Whether it was gang-related, an armed robbery, a domestic disturbance, or whatever isn't clear yet. But it also does not look like a pre-planned suicidal massacre.

I think the press may be looking for any shooting that occurs on or near a campus regardless of the motivations and piling them onto the "school shooting" pile for ratings/politics.

(10-09-2015 04:30 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 03:42 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 03:38 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 03:25 PM)ButlerGSU Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 01:34 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  Hopefully the next one catches one in the head by someone carrying before he can do any damage. They are succeeding is the problem and news channels are making these sick phuqs martyrs by plastering the name and face everywhere. Why do you think these all happen in gun free zones?

They don't. Oregon allows guns on campus and in fact, there were armed students on campus the day of the shooting (Read more ). People sick enough to go on a shooting rampage aren't deterred by guns because they aren't afraid to die.

So you're telling me a psycho was able to carry out that despicable act because relying on untrained kids to get in public shootouts with killers is a bad idea? Shocking...

Um the guys that were armed were military. Anyone who carries a weapon has to be trained to do so. The untrained armed kid was the one who killed everyone.

So we can count on every school in the country from elementary to college having a good number of combat veterans? Have they not done enough to keep us safe already? Should this responsibility be on their shoulders? Does Louisiana make yall do a combat readiness test when you get your CHLs? And let me get this straight, only people who are trained carry weapons but it was an untrained legal gun owner who carried out the act? This is not an A causes B situation there are a lot of factors that lead to this since-less violence and advocating that if people could just get in shootouts this problem would be resolved is irresponsible.

How about the next couple instances on the news you hear... Armed guard shoots gunmen trying to access school grounds and wouldn't stop instead of every 12 hours hearing cray gunmen roams free shooting innocent people. Or how about parents and family of mentally unstable start taking an interest in those people and make sure they can't do things like this. My grandmother was schizo very extreme, we didn't leave her alone in a kitchen full of knives. At some point people need to take some personal responsibility. Colleges would be much more difficult but you can't tell me every elementary, middle school and high school can't have a fence around the grounds... Most already do. I went to high school with 2600 people, somewhat tough student body, we had a barbed wire fence around the school. We had a cop
Present at all times.

And instead of trying to pass gun laws that deal with strictly criminals and mentally unstable people, things that need to be passed, politicians always try to earmark agendas to those which causes all of them to fail. That's why nothing gets done on either side.

(10-09-2015 04:37 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  The shooting at Northern Arizona was apparently some dude getting in over his head in a fight with a group of frats and making a bad choice to pull his weapon. Whether or not it was planned or spur of the moment, and whether he was legitimately in fear of his life or just a hot head will come out as time goes by.

But the point is that the press it treating it exactly the same as other shootings where a mentally deranged person pre-planned a massacre to go out in a blaze of glory. It doesn't look quite the same.

The Texas Southern shooting appears to be off-campus in an apartment complex where other shootings have occurred recently. Whether it was gang-related, an armed robbery, a domestic disturbance, or whatever isn't clear yet. But it also does not look like a pre-planned suicidal massacre.

I think the press may be looking for any shooting that occurs on or near a campus regardless of the motivations and piling them onto the "school shooting" pile for ratings/politics.

Regardless, it is a student housing complex. TSU is right next to UH (they share roads) in a bad section of Houston (3rd ward). It doesn't surprise me there have been shootings in the area but it is still, more or less, part of the college. Blodgett St is a border of the U Campus and that complex is actually within the boundaries of TSUs property.