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RE: Group of 5 New Years Day Bowl spot.
(09-14-2015 12:14 PM)gulfcoastgal Wrote: G5 power rankings per CBSSports
1. Temple
2. Houston
3. Memphis
4. BSU
5. WKU
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...-the-field
Toledo has the single most impressive G5 win so far, so not sure how they get left off this list.
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RE: Group of 5 New Years Day Bowl spot.
that's going to depend on how good Arkansas is.
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RE: Group of 5 New Years Day Bowl spot.
If a any G5 goes undefeated, they will be odds on favorite. All G5 undefeated teams have a quality match-up upcoming. The only reason I say Toledo would have inside track if they beat Iowa St, they have gotten their difficult OOC out of the way. Wouldn't Temple love to get ND this week while ND is breaking a new QB in instead of a few weeks later?
Going Undefeated is no easy task and it is still way to early to tell what is going to happen. ECU showed that last year, I thought they would cruise as the top team until they played Cincy or UCF. I think after 4 weeks are played, the contenders will be identified.
I think the one league that will cannibalize itself is the AAC. I think the AAC Champion will have at least two and possibly three losses. Top four teams in the AAC appear to be.
Temple - ND, Memphis & ECU
Houston - Navy or Memphis (Best shot at Undefeated)
Memphis - Ole Miss, Temple, Navy Cinc
Cinci - Memp, Miami, BYU, Houston, ECU
In addition, ECU & Navy are good teams. I also never count out UCF. I could see a 11-2 or 10-3 AAC team possibly being the best G5 Team but not get in due to another G5 having 13-0 or 12-1 Champion. Again, way to early to tell but fun to speculate.
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Group of 5 New Years Day Bowl spot.
(09-14-2015 12:42 PM)stever20 Wrote: that's going to depend on how good Arkansas is.
You can also say the same thing for Penn St.
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RE: Group of 5 New Years Day Bowl spot.
(09-14-2015 12:39 PM)quo vadis Wrote: (09-14-2015 12:14 PM)gulfcoastgal Wrote: G5 power rankings per CBSSports
1. Temple
2. Houston
3. Memphis
4. BSU
5. WKU
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...-the-field
Toledo has the single most impressive G5 win so far, so not sure how they get left off this list.
Meh, I honestly see Arkansas being at least a five loss team this year.
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RE: Group of 5 New Years Day Bowl spot.
(09-14-2015 01:04 PM)utpotts Wrote: (09-14-2015 12:42 PM)stever20 Wrote: that's going to depend on how good Arkansas is.
You can also say the same thing for Penn St.
true- but you can see Arkansas losing all 6 of their divisional games in the SEC. And Tennessee/Missouri. And Texas Tech, if they allow Toledo to beat them a 2nd time.
little chance of that with Penn St.
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RE: Group of 5 New Years Day Bowl spot.
(09-14-2015 12:39 PM)quo vadis Wrote: (09-14-2015 12:14 PM)gulfcoastgal Wrote: G5 power rankings per CBSSports
1. Temple
2. Houston
3. Memphis
4. BSU
5. WKU
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...-the-field
Toledo has the single most impressive G5 win so far, so not sure how they get left off this list.
Main problem for Temple and Memphis is they have to play each other. So that will likely knock one of them out.
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RE: Group of 5 New Years Day Bowl spot.
Temple / Houston / Memphis -- only 1 can survive. Are they, along with ECU, going to beat themselves up? One has to come out virtually unscathed.
Toledo has Ark State (tough Sun Belt) + Iowa State + NIU + WMU + 2 x BGSU. Chances are better they'll go undefeated OOC, than in-conference. Beating BGSU twice with Matt Johnson at the helm for them? No mid-major this year (and few P5s) would be able to do that, while winning the rest.
Bowling Green COULD be a potential. Yes, a strong loss to Tennessee. But if Tenn holds their own well in the SEC (SEC isn't oh-so-powerful this year) -- and BGSU beats Memphis & Purdue... while taking out Toledo, Ohio (who beat Marshall), and the MAC West Winner (NIU or Toledo a 2nd time) -- an 11-1 BGSU would certainly be in the running.
It all comes down to non in-conf winning consistency. W Kentucky is certainly an option, IMO. Marshall is down this year and beating LA-Tech is certainly in the picture.
(This post was last modified: 09-14-2015 01:40 PM by toddjnsn.)
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RE: Group of 5 New Years Day Bowl spot.
The thing is, a 12-1 Temple/Houston/Memphis is going to be extremely tough to beat. Bowling Green would probably already be out, and Toledo would have to run the table.
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RE: Group of 5 New Years Day Bowl spot.
(09-14-2015 01:39 PM)toddjnsn Wrote: Temple / Houston / Memphis -- only 1 can survive. Are they, along with ECU, going to beat themselves up? One has to come out virtually unscathed.
Toledo has Ark State (tough Sun Belt) + Iowa State + NIU + WMU + 2 x BGSU. Chances are better they'll go undefeated OOC, than in-conference. Beating BGSU twice with Matt Johnson at the helm for them? No mid-major this year (and few P5s) would be able to do that, while winning the rest.
Bowling Green COULD be a potential. Yes, a strong loss to Tennessee. But if Tenn holds their own well in the SEC (SEC isn't oh-so-powerful this year) -- and BGSU beats Memphis & Purdue... while taking out Toledo, Ohio (who beat Marshall), and the MAC West Winner (NIU or Toledo a 2nd time) -- an 11-1 BGSU would certainly be in the running.
It all comes down to non in-conf winning consistency. W Kentucky is certainly an option, IMO. Marshall is down this year and beating LA-Tech is certainly in the picture.
WKU will likely need Boise and the other AAC teams to have two losses to get in. LSU will solve that problem for everyone anyway.
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RE: Group of 5 New Years Day Bowl spot.
(09-14-2015 01:32 PM)msm96wolf Wrote: (09-14-2015 12:39 PM)quo vadis Wrote: (09-14-2015 12:14 PM)gulfcoastgal Wrote: G5 power rankings per CBSSports
1. Temple
2. Houston
3. Memphis
4. BSU
5. WKU
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...-the-field
Toledo has the single most impressive G5 win so far, so not sure how they get left off this list.
Main problem for Temple and Memphis is they have to play each other. So that will likely knock one of them out.
What will knock one of them out is that only one can be the AAC winner. So gotta hope that Temple beats Memphis, and Houston wins the AAC west.
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RE: Group of 5 New Years Day Bowl spot.
The likelihood of an unbeaten G5 is almost nil at this point.There are only 13 left. Of those, seven are underdogs this week by an average of 22 points. Only Western Kentucky is given any chance to win among these seven.
Four are favored, by an average of 6 points. One plays an FCS team, and Houston is idle.
IMO, the odds on favorite is still Boise, but only if they get past a better than expected Virginia team. If they don't, don't be surprised if the G5 rep has at least 2 losses.
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RE: Group of 5 New Years Day Bowl spot.
(09-14-2015 04:07 PM)ken d Wrote: The likelihood of an unbeaten G5 is almost nil at this point.There are only 13 left. Of those, seven are underdogs this week by an average of 22 points. Only Western Kentucky is given any chance to win among these seven.
Four are favored, by an average of 6 points. One plays an FCS team, and Houston is idle.
IMO, the odds on favorite is still Boise, but only if they get past a better than expected Virginia team. If they don't, don't be surprised if the G5 rep has at least 2 losses.
I assume you're talking about SELU, because UMass is in the MAC.
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RE: Group of 5 New Years Day Bowl spot.
I hope Temple is ranked when they roll into Dowdy Ficklen.
We owe them one.
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RE: Group of 5 New Years Day Bowl spot.
(09-14-2015 05:46 PM)Chappy Wrote: I hope Temple is ranked when they roll into Dowdy Ficklen.
We owe them one.
Hoping for the same. The game I'm looking most forward to all year, and that was before Temple started 2-0.
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RE: Group of 5 New Years Day Bowl spot.
14 if you include 2 and 0 Charlotte and 2 and 0 BYU.
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RE: Group of 5 New Years Day Bowl spot.
(09-14-2015 01:43 PM)stever20 Wrote: The thing is, a 12-1 Temple/Houston/Memphis is going to be extremely tough to beat. Bowling Green would probably already be out, and Toledo would have to run the table.
Bowling Green still has to play @Purdue and gets Memphis, Ohio, and Toledo at home. If they run the table and then beat Toledo or Northern Illinois in the championship game to finish 12-1 they would most definitely be in the mix with a 12-1 Temple/Houston/Memphis.
Same goes for Toledo. They have Iowa State and Northern Illinois at home and Bowling Green on the road. In the championship game they'd probably face BG again or Ohio. I think they could lose one of those games and still have a strong case at 11-1.
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RE: Group of 5 New Years Day Bowl spot.
(09-15-2015 05:28 AM)DavidSt Wrote: 14 if you include 2 and 0 Charlotte and 2 and 0 BYU.
Eh, we don't count. We are certainly not going undefeated and even if by some miracle we did, we are not bowl eligible.
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RE: Group of 5 New Years Day Bowl spot.
(09-15-2015 06:44 AM)perimeterpost Wrote: (09-14-2015 01:43 PM)stever20 Wrote: The thing is, a 12-1 Temple/Houston/Memphis is going to be extremely tough to beat. Bowling Green would probably already be out, and Toledo would have to run the table.
Bowling Green still has to play @Purdue and gets Memphis, Ohio, and Toledo at home. If they run the table and then beat Toledo or Northern Illinois in the championship game to finish 12-1 they would most definitely be in the mix with a 12-1 Temple/Houston/Memphis.
Same goes for Toledo. They have Iowa State and Northern Illinois at home and Bowling Green on the road. In the championship game they'd probably face BG again or Ohio. I think they could lose one of those games and still have a strong case at 11-1.
For Bowling Green- the only way what you say is true is if Memphis is the AAC champion.
For Toledo- they absolutely need Arkansas to be something other than 6-6. Iowa St will be lucky to win 4 games- so hardly a good win. The MAC just doesn't have the depth that the AAC has, and that'll produce SOS gap that I don't think they can close.
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RE: Group of 5 New Years Day Bowl spot.
(09-15-2015 05:28 AM)DavidSt Wrote: 14 if you include 2 and 0 Charlotte and 2 and 0 BYU.
You can't count BYU. They don't get the G5 Access bowl spot.
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