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(07-28-2015 11:08 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(07-28-2015 11:05 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(07-28-2015 11:01 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  I didn't condone it. But it is similar.

Do you have any evidence that the motorists were doing anything unlawful?

I was never making the argument they were doing anything unlawful, that'd be an idiotic and patently wrong argument to make. I'm stating there are distinct differences between some people walking down the sidewalk in an admittedly inconsiderate and personally very annoying manner, and people actively taking the time to place confederate flags all over their vehicles to actively go out of their way to bother others. It's the difference between a car driving by with loud music and a person setting up a speaking system in order to blast music they know you don't like into your home.

so annoying to one is more annoying to the other and they are both annoying?

kinda falls under the 'no shite' catagory.....

none of the above yields true in satisfaction to any other than those annoying....

just another op-ed in misdirection and understanding....

No, it's more about effort involved and intention of those doing so. Putting in actual work to be inconsiderate is to me worse than unintentionally doing so. I didn't think this would be a point of contention with anyone, but this is CSNBBS, so I'm not sure why I'm surprised.
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(07-28-2015 11:13 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(07-28-2015 11:08 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(07-28-2015 11:05 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(07-28-2015 11:01 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  I didn't condone it. But it is similar.

Do you have any evidence that the motorists were doing anything unlawful?

I was never making the argument they were doing anything unlawful, that'd be an idiotic and patently wrong argument to make. I'm stating there are distinct differences between some people walking down the sidewalk in an admittedly inconsiderate and personally very annoying manner, and people actively taking the time to place confederate flags all over their vehicles to actively go out of their way to bother others. It's the difference between a car driving by with loud music and a person setting up a speaking system in order to blast music they know you don't like into your home.

so annoying to one is more annoying to the other and they are both annoying?

kinda falls under the 'no shite' catagory.....

none of the above yields true in satisfaction to any other than those annoying....

just another op-ed in misdirection and understanding....

No, it's more about effort involved and intention of those doing so. Putting in actual work to be inconsiderate is to me worse than unintentionally doing so. I didn't think this would be a point of contention with anyone, but this is CSNBBS, so I'm not sure why I'm surprised.

they are both 'intentional' acts son.... wtf are you talking about?

keep it up.....
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(07-28-2015 11:08 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(07-28-2015 11:05 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(07-28-2015 11:01 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  I didn't condone it. But it is similar.

Do you have any evidence that the motorists were doing anything unlawful?

I was never making the argument they were doing anything unlawful, that'd be an idiotic and patently wrong argument to make. I'm stating there are distinct differences between some people walking down the sidewalk in an admittedly inconsiderate and personally very annoying manner, and people actively taking the time to place confederate flags all over their vehicles to actively go out of their way to bother others. It's the difference between a car driving by with loud music and a person setting up a speaking system in order to blast music they know you don't like into your home.

so annoying to one is more annoying to the other and they are both annoying?

kinda falls under the 'no shite' catagory.....

none of the above yields true in satisfaction to any other than those annoying....

just another op-ed in misdirection and understanding....

I'm not sure what language that is, but I think I disagree. In one case they go out of their way to be annoying a-holes, at a child's birthday party no less, and possibly threatening as well. In the other case they're just rude. I'd say there's a big difference.
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RE: Confederates troll child's birthday party.
(07-28-2015 11:16 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(07-28-2015 11:13 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(07-28-2015 11:08 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(07-28-2015 11:05 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(07-28-2015 11:01 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  I didn't condone it. But it is similar.

Do you have any evidence that the motorists were doing anything unlawful?

I was never making the argument they were doing anything unlawful, that'd be an idiotic and patently wrong argument to make. I'm stating there are distinct differences between some people walking down the sidewalk in an admittedly inconsiderate and personally very annoying manner, and people actively taking the time to place confederate flags all over their vehicles to actively go out of their way to bother others. It's the difference between a car driving by with loud music and a person setting up a speaking system in order to blast music they know you don't like into your home.

so annoying to one is more annoying to the other and they are both annoying?

kinda falls under the 'no shite' catagory.....

none of the above yields true in satisfaction to any other than those annoying....

just another op-ed in misdirection and understanding....

No, it's more about effort involved and intention of those doing so. Putting in actual work to be inconsiderate is to me worse than unintentionally doing so. I didn't think this would be a point of contention with anyone, but this is CSNBBS, so I'm not sure why I'm surprised.

they are both 'intentional' acts son.... wtf are you talking about?

keep it up.....

No, you're right. Walking 5 wide across a sidewalk is completely the same as calling your buddies, getting together to go to the trouble of placing multiple flags on your vehicles, and then driving to a location in order to bother other people. Come on stink, stop being so hardheaded, that's a ludicrous comparison and you know it.
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Do you have proof that one of these motorists used a mobile phone in order to organize a mob? Because that's exactly what you are saying ?
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(07-28-2015 11:21 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(07-28-2015 11:16 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(07-28-2015 11:13 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(07-28-2015 11:08 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(07-28-2015 11:05 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  I was never making the argument they were doing anything unlawful, that'd be an idiotic and patently wrong argument to make. I'm stating there are distinct differences between some people walking down the sidewalk in an admittedly inconsiderate and personally very annoying manner, and people actively taking the time to place confederate flags all over their vehicles to actively go out of their way to bother others. It's the difference between a car driving by with loud music and a person setting up a speaking system in order to blast music they know you don't like into your home.

so annoying to one is more annoying to the other and they are both annoying?

kinda falls under the 'no shite' catagory.....

none of the above yields true in satisfaction to any other than those annoying....

just another op-ed in misdirection and understanding....

No, it's more about effort involved and intention of those doing so. Putting in actual work to be inconsiderate is to me worse than unintentionally doing so. I didn't think this would be a point of contention with anyone, but this is CSNBBS, so I'm not sure why I'm surprised.

they are both 'intentional' acts son.... wtf are you talking about?

keep it up.....

No, you're right. Walking 5 wide across a sidewalk is completely the same as calling your buddies, getting together to go to the trouble of placing multiple flags on your vehicles, and then driving to a location in order to bother other people. Come on stink, stop being so hardheaded, that's a ludicrous comparison and you know it.

we'll agree to disagree at this point.....we have no one to moderate....

however, the only difference in that post is one has a truck and one doesn't....

wtfe dude....
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Confederates?

Wow, and here I thought the last War of Yankee Aggression veterans had been dead for decades.
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(07-28-2015 10:47 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  I don't agree with the actions however, if it is public place and public roads,, oh well. I'm sure if there were any threats from the motorists, the officers that were present would have done something about it.

But it was in poor taste! But not any poorer taste than a group of black people walking down a sidewalk 5 abreast making people change their path. I see that all the time and walk right through them on my side of the sidewalk.
Both strike me as obvious attempts to intimidate.
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(07-28-2015 11:26 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  Confederates?

Wow, and here I thought the last War of Yankee Aggression veterans had been dead for decades.

I read about it once...

visited many a pub with it flying and just said 'fk it'

people.....just can't fix 'em (yet)
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Just another weekend in the deep South. LMFAO
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(07-28-2015 11:25 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  Do you have proof that one of these motorists used a mobile phone in order to organize a mob? Because that's exactly what you are saying ?

I actually never used nor characterized them as a 'mob' or in anyway that could be implied as such, and of course I have no proof that they used their mobile phones, it was pretty obvious that I was just explaining what I thought probably happened. But, I fail to see how that at all affects my point, at all. Please explain.
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(07-28-2015 11:28 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Just another weekend in the deep South. LMFAO

just another racist post from you...
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Stink, you're disappointing me today. You're picking up a lot of bad habits from the worst posters on here, and you're better than that.
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(07-28-2015 11:29 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(07-28-2015 11:25 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  Do you have proof that one of these motorists used a mobile phone in order to organize a mob? Because that's exactly what you are saying ?

I actually never used nor characterized them as a 'mob' or in anyway that could be implied as such, and of course I have no proof that they used their mobile phones, it was pretty obvious that I was just explaining what I thought probably happened. But, I fail to see how that at all affects my point, at all. Please explain.

In any case, it's exceedingly unlikely that they just happened to show up at the same spot, at a black child's birthday party. That would be magical.
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(07-28-2015 11:33 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(07-28-2015 11:29 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(07-28-2015 11:25 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  Do you have proof that one of these motorists used a mobile phone in order to organize a mob? Because that's exactly what you are saying ?

I actually never used nor characterized them as a 'mob' or in anyway that could be implied as such, and of course I have no proof that they used their mobile phones, it was pretty obvious that I was just explaining what I thought probably happened. But, I fail to see how that at all affects my point, at all. Please explain.

In any case, it's exceedingly unlikely that they just happened to show up at the same spot, at a black child's birthday party. That would be magical.

With their trucks completely covered with the same flags. Which is why that point literally makes no sense to me. In way it's clear they communicated their intention to each other, whether or not it was in person, through landlines, through cell phones, or smoke signals just completely ignore the point I'm actually making.
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(07-28-2015 11:33 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  Stink, you're disappointing me today. You're picking up a lot of bad habits from the worst posters on here, and you're better than that.

I know.....but my helper is napping now while I wait on equipment 03-wink

sometimes I can get pissed too.....

but my arguments are still solid.....I try....believe me, I try....

and I admit when I'm wrong....

one day I'll just disappear like many others.....
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(07-28-2015 11:35 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(07-28-2015 11:33 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(07-28-2015 11:29 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(07-28-2015 11:25 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  Do you have proof that one of these motorists used a mobile phone in order to organize a mob? Because that's exactly what you are saying ?

I actually never used nor characterized them as a 'mob' or in anyway that could be implied as such, and of course I have no proof that they used their mobile phones, it was pretty obvious that I was just explaining what I thought probably happened. But, I fail to see how that at all affects my point, at all. Please explain.

In any case, it's exceedingly unlikely that they just happened to show up at the same spot, at a black child's birthday party. That would be magical.

With their trucks completely covered with the same flags. Which is why that point literally makes no sense to me. In way it's clear they communicated their intention to each other, whether or not it was in person, through landlines, through cell phones, or smoke signals just completely ignore the point I'm actually making.

that point is valid but ignores the fact that cause/effect is still cause/effect

the sidewalk folk vs the truck folk still show strength in numbers.....

this about cause/effect and not about how the result is displayed

the result is the same.....
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(07-28-2015 11:20 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(07-28-2015 11:08 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(07-28-2015 11:05 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(07-28-2015 11:01 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  I didn't condone it. But it is similar.

Do you have any evidence that the motorists were doing anything unlawful?

I was never making the argument they were doing anything unlawful, that'd be an idiotic and patently wrong argument to make. I'm stating there are distinct differences between some people walking down the sidewalk in an admittedly inconsiderate and personally very annoying manner, and people actively taking the time to place confederate flags all over their vehicles to actively go out of their way to bother others. It's the difference between a car driving by with loud music and a person setting up a speaking system in order to blast music they know you don't like into your home.

so annoying to one is more annoying to the other and they are both annoying?

kinda falls under the 'no shite' catagory.....

none of the above yields true in satisfaction to any other than those annoying....

just another op-ed in misdirection and understanding....

I'm not sure what language that is, but I think I disagree. In one case they go out of their way to be annoying a-holes, at a child's birthday party no less, and possibly threatening as well. In the other case they're just rude. I'd say there's a big difference.
Quick question, how would they know a child's birthday party was going on?

Again, there seems to be two sides to the story and we're dismissing the other side. I'm positive the truth lies somewhere between both stories.
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(07-28-2015 12:12 PM)gdunn Wrote:  
(07-28-2015 11:20 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(07-28-2015 11:08 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(07-28-2015 11:05 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(07-28-2015 11:01 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  I didn't condone it. But it is similar.

Do you have any evidence that the motorists were doing anything unlawful?

I was never making the argument they were doing anything unlawful, that'd be an idiotic and patently wrong argument to make. I'm stating there are distinct differences between some people walking down the sidewalk in an admittedly inconsiderate and personally very annoying manner, and people actively taking the time to place confederate flags all over their vehicles to actively go out of their way to bother others. It's the difference between a car driving by with loud music and a person setting up a speaking system in order to blast music they know you don't like into your home.

so annoying to one is more annoying to the other and they are both annoying?

kinda falls under the 'no shite' catagory.....

none of the above yields true in satisfaction to any other than those annoying....

just another op-ed in misdirection and understanding....

I'm not sure what language that is, but I think I disagree. In one case they go out of their way to be annoying a-holes, at a child's birthday party no less, and possibly threatening as well. In the other case they're just rude. I'd say there's a big difference.
Quick question, how would they know a child's birthday party was going on?

Again, there seems to be two sides to the story and we're dismissing the other side. I'm positive the truth lies somewhere between both stories.

I'm sure there are two sides to this story, and it's possible they didn't know it was a childs birthday. But it's hard to argue that they weren't intentionally targeting this group in the hopes of upsetting them, and put some significant work in to do so.
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(07-28-2015 12:25 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(07-28-2015 12:12 PM)gdunn Wrote:  
(07-28-2015 11:20 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(07-28-2015 11:08 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(07-28-2015 11:05 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  I was never making the argument they were doing anything unlawful, that'd be an idiotic and patently wrong argument to make. I'm stating there are distinct differences between some people walking down the sidewalk in an admittedly inconsiderate and personally very annoying manner, and people actively taking the time to place confederate flags all over their vehicles to actively go out of their way to bother others. It's the difference between a car driving by with loud music and a person setting up a speaking system in order to blast music they know you don't like into your home.

so annoying to one is more annoying to the other and they are both annoying?

kinda falls under the 'no shite' catagory.....

none of the above yields true in satisfaction to any other than those annoying....

just another op-ed in misdirection and understanding....

I'm not sure what language that is, but I think I disagree. In one case they go out of their way to be annoying a-holes, at a child's birthday party no less, and possibly threatening as well. In the other case they're just rude. I'd say there's a big difference.
Quick question, how would they know a child's birthday party was going on?

Again, there seems to be two sides to the story and we're dismissing the other side. I'm positive the truth lies somewhere between both stories.

I'm sure there are two sides to this story, and it's possible they didn't know it was a childs birthday. But it's hard to argue that they weren't intentionally targeting this group in the hopes of upsetting them, and put some significant work in to do so.
So you know what was going on the mind of these men? Cause it could be argued that they were flying the flags, since it is a business, and were on their way when they had a flat, pulled over to fix it and got harassed.. When did it become a crime to fly any flag?
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