From the Article:

On Friday Lindsey Miller, the stepfather of Ole Miss offensive tackle Laremy Tunsil, met with NCAA officials to discuss alleged NCAA rules violations.

Tunsil was arrested on June 27 after allegedly punching Miller. According to Tunsil he struck Miller to defend his mother, alleging Miller had shoved her. Miller claims that the altercation stemmed from an argument he had with Tunsil's mother about Laremy "riding around with football agents."

Which is what led to Miller's meeting with the NCAA on Friday.

The Clarion-Ledger reports that Miller's meeting with the NCAA's director of enforcement for football, Chris Howard, along with one other official for three hours on Friday. Miller would not comment on what was discussed in the meeting.

Along with the contact with agents -- which is not an NCAA violation as long as Tunsil doesn't sign a contract or accept impermissible benefits -- Miller also told the Clarion-Ledger that he knows of violations that took place during Tunsil's recruitment to Ole Miss. Miller alleges there were falsified academic records, as well as gifts like cash, clothes and help with car insurance payments.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...-officials

Yikes

Man, I feel bad for the University of China Illinois on this one. NCAA's not going to take too kindly to them after all this...

This is a stunner. An SEC school is cheating. Who knew?

To make matters more obvious, it is an SEC school that traditionally stinks. Suddenly they've become very good but they did it on the up and up against a bunch of other SEC schools that are also proven cheaters.

Shocking.

What's next? Are we going to start hearing about some shady shitt going on down in Coral Gables?

When they signed Nkemdiche, Treadwell and Tunsil I immediately said it reaked of Blue Chips in that 2013 Ole Miss Class.

(07-03-2015 09:05 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  This is a stunner. An SEC school is cheating. Who knew?

To make matters more obvious, it is an SEC school that traditionally stinks. Suddenly they've become very good but they did it on the up and up against a bunch of other SEC schools that are also proven cheaters.

Shocking.

What's next? Are we going to start hearing about some shady shitt going on down in Coral Gables?

So maybe Ole Miss forfeits its win over Alabama?

(07-03-2015 09:38 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  

(07-03-2015 09:05 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  This is a stunner. An SEC school is cheating. Who knew?

To make matters more obvious, it is an SEC school that traditionally stinks. Suddenly they've become very good but they did it on the up and up against a bunch of other SEC schools that are also proven cheaters.

Shocking.

What's next? Are we going to start hearing about some shady shitt going on down in Coral Gables?

So maybe Ole Miss forfeits its win over Alabama?

Nope. It's dismissed as a domestic altercation. It pales in comparison to F.S.U. the last couple of years. And nothing came of that either.

If you aint cheating you aint trying. There was a period of 25 years where at least one SEC school
was on ncaa double probation. lol.

(07-03-2015 11:43 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  If you aint cheating you aint trying. There was a period of 25 years where at least one SEC school
was on ncaa double probation. lol.

Were we cheating or just ahead of our time. Now the NCAA is adopting our way of doing things, they are just bureaucratizing it.

You're going to see reports like this more and more. This is the information age, after all.

(07-03-2015 11:57 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(07-03-2015 11:43 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  If you aint cheating you aint trying. There was a period of 25 years where at least one SEC school
was on ncaa double probation. lol.

Were we cheating or just ahead of our time. Now the NCAA is adopting our way of doing things, they are just bureaucratizing it.

I think it is more accurate to say that the NCAA is surrendering to your league's cheating ways.

I think the NCAA now knows that everyone else understands that it lacks the power to enforce any real penalties. Therefore, they're trying to do whatever they can to sanitize it without making it obvious to everyone that they are powerless, feckless organization with no real power over anyone.

My entire point over this whole P5 concept was that the only way it works and is not a major step backwards for college athletics is if there is a central governing body with real power behind it to help keep cheaters in line.

That is a very naive viewpoint to hold because its the most brazen cheaters who make the most money for themselves and the sport in general.

The NCAA is now trying to figure out a way to best inoculate the cheaters and cover up their misdeeds. They know they can't stop people from cheating so what they want to do now is to limit the public's access to the evidence of said cheating.

(07-04-2015 01:59 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  

(07-03-2015 11:57 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(07-03-2015 11:43 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  If you aint cheating you aint trying. There was a period of 25 years where at least one SEC school
was on ncaa double probation. lol.

Were we cheating or just ahead of our time. Now the NCAA is adopting our way of doing things, they are just bureaucratizing it.

I think it is more accurate to say that the NCAA is surrendering to your league's cheating ways.

I think the NCAA now knows that everyone else understands that it lacks the power to enforce any real penalties. Therefore, they're trying to do whatever they can to sanitize it without making it obvious to everyone that they are powerless, feckless organization with no real power over anyone.

My entire point over this whole P5 concept was that the only way it works and is not a major step backwards for college athletics is if there is a central governing body with real power behind it to help keep cheaters in line.

That is a very naive viewpoint to hold because its the most brazen cheaters who make the most money for themselves and the sport in general.

The NCAA is now trying to figure out a way to best inoculate the cheaters and cover up their misdeeds. They know they can't stop people from cheating so what they want to do now is to limit the public's access to the evidence of said cheating.

Can't say that I disagree with your statements. But I can majorly attest to one of your oversights. I turned folks in for cheating for almost 20 years (first to their presidents and then if no action to the NCAA). The SEC, the old SWC then Big 12, Big 10, and most of the ACC as was then comported were all just as guilty. It's just they had various ways of approaching it. Some were extremely elaborate and sophisticated (mostly academic cheating) and some were simplistic and direct (paying the players in one form or another). Of the two the less reprehensible approach was the one that didn't also pollute the academic integrity of the schools. But let me add this. All conferences had the presence of both. I never had to deal with the Big East or PAC so I can't attest to those. But Johnny Majors wasn't pristine while at Pitt either. The only one I never found dirt on was Bill Curry while at Georgia Tech. That doesn't mean he was pristine either, but based upon his player relations I have little reason to believe he was dirty. But that character became a negative when hired by Bama and that is why they ran him out. He wouldn't do things the Bama way. Ohio State....well by all rights on this subject they should have been in the SEC long ago.

(07-03-2015 10:30 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(07-03-2015 09:38 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  

(07-03-2015 09:05 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  This is a stunner. An SEC school is cheating. Who knew?

To make matters more obvious, it is an SEC school that traditionally stinks. Suddenly they've become very good but they did it on the up and up against a bunch of other SEC schools that are also proven cheaters.

Shocking.

What's next? Are we going to start hearing about some shady shitt going on down in Coral Gables?

So maybe Ole Miss forfeits its win over Alabama?

Nope. It's dismissed as a domestic altercation. It pales in comparison to F.S.U. the last couple of years. And nothing came of that either.

what about the red back pack. im not saying that it was full of cash. not saying that at all.

(07-04-2015 03:12 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(07-03-2015 10:30 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(07-03-2015 09:38 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  

(07-03-2015 09:05 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  This is a stunner. An SEC school is cheating. Who knew?

To make matters more obvious, it is an SEC school that traditionally stinks. Suddenly they've become very good but they did it on the up and up against a bunch of other SEC schools that are also proven cheaters.

Shocking.

What's next? Are we going to start hearing about some shady shitt going on down in Coral Gables?

So maybe Ole Miss forfeits its win over Alabama?

Nope. It's dismissed as a domestic altercation. It pales in comparison to F.S.U. the last couple of years. And nothing came of that either.

what about the red back pack. im not saying that it was full of cash. not saying that at all.

Excuse me.....We call that a bag, man!

(07-04-2015 02:14 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(07-04-2015 01:59 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  

(07-03-2015 11:57 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(07-03-2015 11:43 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  If you aint cheating you aint trying. There was a period of 25 years where at least one SEC school
was on ncaa double probation. lol.

Were we cheating or just ahead of our time. Now the NCAA is adopting our way of doing things, they are just bureaucratizing it.

I think it is more accurate to say that the NCAA is surrendering to your league's cheating ways.

I think the NCAA now knows that everyone else understands that it lacks the power to enforce any real penalties. Therefore, they're trying to do whatever they can to sanitize it without making it obvious to everyone that they are powerless, feckless organization with no real power over anyone.

My entire point over this whole P5 concept was that the only way it works and is not a major step backwards for college athletics is if there is a central governing body with real power behind it to help keep cheaters in line.

That is a very naive viewpoint to hold because its the most brazen cheaters who make the most money for themselves and the sport in general.

The NCAA is now trying to figure out a way to best inoculate the cheaters and cover up their misdeeds. They know they can't stop people from cheating so what they want to do now is to limit the public's access to the evidence of said cheating.

Can't say that I disagree with your statements. But I can majorly attest to one of your oversights. I turned folks in for cheating for almost 20 years (first to their presidents and then if no action to the NCAA). The SEC, the old SWC then Big 12, Big 10, and most of the ACC as was then comported were all just as guilty. It's just they had various ways of approaching it. Some were extremely elaborate and sophisticated (mostly academic cheating) and some were simplistic and direct (paying the players in one form or another). Of the two the less reprehensible approach was the one that didn't also pollute the academic integrity of the schools. But let me add this. All conferences had the presence of both. I never had to deal with the Big East or PAC so I can't attest to those. But Johnny Majors wasn't pristine while at Pitt either. The only one I never found dirt on was Bill Curry while at Georgia Tech. That doesn't mean he was pristine either, but based upon his player relations I have little reason to believe he was dirty. But that character became a negative when hired by Bama and that is why they ran him out. He wouldn't do things the Bama way. Ohio State....well by all rights on this subject they should have been in the SEC long ago.

Maybe those that want the P5 to split off from everyone else are right. Since those are the schools that are willing and able to pay their players whatever they want under the table, it doesn't make sense to lump in schools that still pretend to be a university that also happen to have sports programs.

(07-04-2015 03:28 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(07-04-2015 02:14 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(07-04-2015 01:59 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  

(07-03-2015 11:57 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(07-03-2015 11:43 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  If you aint cheating you aint trying. There was a period of 25 years where at least one SEC school
was on ncaa double probation. lol.

Were we cheating or just ahead of our time. Now the NCAA is adopting our way of doing things, they are just bureaucratizing it.

I think it is more accurate to say that the NCAA is surrendering to your league's cheating ways.

I think the NCAA now knows that everyone else understands that it lacks the power to enforce any real penalties. Therefore, they're trying to do whatever they can to sanitize it without making it obvious to everyone that they are powerless, feckless organization with no real power over anyone.

My entire point over this whole P5 concept was that the only way it works and is not a major step backwards for college athletics is if there is a central governing body with real power behind it to help keep cheaters in line.

That is a very naive viewpoint to hold because its the most brazen cheaters who make the most money for themselves and the sport in general.

The NCAA is now trying to figure out a way to best inoculate the cheaters and cover up their misdeeds. They know they can't stop people from cheating so what they want to do now is to limit the public's access to the evidence of said cheating.

Can't say that I disagree with your statements. But I can majorly attest to one of your oversights. I turned folks in for cheating for almost 20 years (first to their presidents and then if no action to the NCAA). The SEC, the old SWC then Big 12, Big 10, and most of the ACC as was then comported were all just as guilty. It's just they had various ways of approaching it. Some were extremely elaborate and sophisticated (mostly academic cheating) and some were simplistic and direct (paying the players in one form or another). Of the two the less reprehensible approach was the one that didn't also pollute the academic integrity of the schools. But let me add this. All conferences had the presence of both. I never had to deal with the Big East or PAC so I can't attest to those. But Johnny Majors wasn't pristine while at Pitt either. The only one I never found dirt on was Bill Curry while at Georgia Tech. That doesn't mean he was pristine either, but based upon his player relations I have little reason to believe he was dirty. But that character became a negative when hired by Bama and that is why they ran him out. He wouldn't do things the Bama way. Ohio State....well by all rights on this subject they should have been in the SEC long ago.

Maybe those that want the P5 to split off from everyone else are right. Since those are the schools that are willing and able to pay their players whatever they want under the table, it doesn't make sense to lump in schools that still pretend to be a university that also happen to have sports programs.

Well You would still have the Money under the table dealings even with Cash stipends for the premium talent .

(07-03-2015 09:23 PM)Maize Wrote:  When they signed Nkemdiche, Treadwell and Tunsil I immediately said it reaked of Blue Chips in that 2013 Ole Miss Class.

Everyone knows they are cheating but it can't be proven......yet.

(07-04-2015 01:59 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  

(07-03-2015 11:57 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(07-03-2015 11:43 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  If you aint cheating you aint trying. There was a period of 25 years where at least one SEC school
was on ncaa double probation. lol.

Were we cheating or just ahead of our time. Now the NCAA is adopting our way of doing things, they are just bureaucratizing it.

I think it is more accurate to say that the NCAA is surrendering to your league's cheating ways.

I think the NCAA now knows that everyone else understands that it lacks the power to enforce any real penalties. Therefore, they're trying to do whatever they can to sanitize it without making it obvious to everyone that they are powerless, feckless organization with no real power over anyone.

My entire point over this whole P5 concept was that the only way it works and is not a major step backwards for college athletics is if there is a central governing body with real power behind it to help keep cheaters in line.

That is a very naive viewpoint to hold because its the most brazen cheaters who make the most money for themselves and the sport in general.

The NCAA is now trying to figure out a way to best inoculate the cheaters and cover up their misdeeds. They know they can't stop people from cheating so what they want to do now is to limit the public's access to the evidence of said cheating.

I pretty much agree with everything you have said, the only thing I would add is it just isn't the SEC.

All the schools with power have figured out that if they cheat, they are not going to get in that much trouble. It might cost you a coach, you'll have to forfeit some wins and you might lose a scholly or two, but in the end the power schools finish ahead. They'll replace their old coach with a better one; nobody cares about forfeiting wins and they will just deal with losing a few scholly's for a few years.

It all isn't going to change unless they really start penalizing these schools for cheating.

At Auburn there were rumors surround Cam Newton, but other than that one player, it seems like they were gradually improving anyway.

Ole Miss got real good, real quick - accompanied by players posting photos of themselves holding large amounts of cash.

Hmmm.

(07-06-2015 09:55 AM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(07-03-2015 09:23 PM)Maize Wrote:  When they signed Nkemdiche, Treadwell and Tunsil I immediately said it reaked of Blue Chips in that 2013 Ole Miss Class.

Everyone knows they are cheating but it can't be proven......yet.

That's not exactly true. It CAN be proven, but nobody that can wants to prove it.