NOBODY!

"I don't believe anyone is personally responsible," OPM Director Katherine Archuleta said Tuesday.

Thats right, noone in this administration is accountable. They broke protocols and failed to encrypt the data, which led to chinese hackers getting personal info on about 18M americans. But noone will be held responsible.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/06/23/sources-number-affected-by-govt-cyber-breach-soars-to-at-least-18m/?intcmp=latestnews

...and he found out the same time we did, in the newspaper!

while I usually enjoy any chance to make fun of Obama, when it comes to hacking, it's pretty tough to hold someone accountable for "allowing" this to happen.

When you are going up against city states, and 7 story tall buildings filled with hackers and networking equipment, they can hack anything they want, as long as they want to put forth the time and effort. It's really hard to say that one person was responsible for the hack. It isn't like this information was accidentally leaked to the outside.

(06-23-2015 03:32 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  while I usually enjoy any chance to make fun of Obama, when it comes to hacking, it's pretty tough to hold someone accountable for "allowing" this to happen.

When you are going up against city states, and 7 story tall buildings filled with hackers and networking equipment, they can hack anything they want, as long as they want to put forth the time and effort. It's really hard to say that one person was responsible for the hack. It isn't like this information was accidentally leaked to the outside.

Someone is always accountable.

Based upon some of the testimony I heard, we might as well had sent the Chinese the info on a thumb drive.

(06-23-2015 03:39 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 03:32 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  while I usually enjoy any chance to make fun of Obama, when it comes to hacking, it's pretty tough to hold someone accountable for "allowing" this to happen.

When you are going up against city states, and 7 story tall buildings filled with hackers and networking equipment, they can hack anything they want, as long as they want to put forth the time and effort. It's really hard to say that one person was responsible for the hack. It isn't like this information was accidentally leaked to the outside.

Someone is always accountable.

Based upon some of the testimony I heard, we might as well had sent the Chinese the info on a thumb drive.

How so? When it comes to defending against hackers, it is a constant cat and mouse game. Hackers come up with a new program, the good guys create a program to stop it. it is a constant back and forth. Any computer system can be hacked. Plain and simple.

(06-23-2015 03:48 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 03:39 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 03:32 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  while I usually enjoy any chance to make fun of Obama, when it comes to hacking, it's pretty tough to hold someone accountable for "allowing" this to happen.

When you are going up against city states, and 7 story tall buildings filled with hackers and networking equipment, they can hack anything they want, as long as they want to put forth the time and effort. It's really hard to say that one person was responsible for the hack. It isn't like this information was accidentally leaked to the outside.

Someone is always accountable.

Based upon some of the testimony I heard, we might as well had sent the Chinese the info on a thumb drive.

How so? When it comes to defending against hackers, it is a constant cat and mouse game. Hackers come up with a new program, the good guys create a program to stop it. it is a constant back and forth. Any computer system can be hacked. Plain and simple.

Who's job is it?

I deal with this all the time. Someone is accountable for it. Which is why we dont have breaches like this, because someone's ass is on the line.

That doesnt mean a hacker cant get through. It does mean they better not get through easily because someone dropped the ball, and it better mean that the info they get is useless.

(06-23-2015 03:48 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 03:39 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 03:32 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  while I usually enjoy any chance to make fun of Obama, when it comes to hacking, it's pretty tough to hold someone accountable for "allowing" this to happen.

When you are going up against city states, and 7 story tall buildings filled with hackers and networking equipment, they can hack anything they want, as long as they want to put forth the time and effort. It's really hard to say that one person was responsible for the hack. It isn't like this information was accidentally leaked to the outside.

Someone is always accountable.

Based upon some of the testimony I heard, we might as well had sent the Chinese the info on a thumb drive.

How so? When it comes to defending against hackers, it is a constant cat and mouse game. Hackers come up with a new program, the good guys create a program to stop it. it is a constant back and forth. Any computer system can be hacked. Plain and simple.

C'mon man...get real. You know darned well that if someone breaks into your house and steals stuff that it's your fault for not having a better lock or home security system!

China can hack into any U.S. government or defense computer system at any time and Obama doesn't give a sh-t.

I'm just shocked he didn't blame Bush or the Confederate flag.

So we have no strategy capable of protecting data? None? and no one is responsible?

(06-23-2015 03:28 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  NOBODY!

"I don't believe anyone is personally responsible," OPM Director Katherine Archuleta said Tuesday.

Thats right, noone in this administration is accountable. They broke protocols and failed to encrypt the data, which led to chinese hackers getting personal info on about 18M americans. But noone will be held responsible.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/06/23/sources-number-affected-by-govt-cyber-breach-soars-to-at-least-18m/?intcmp=latestnews

What did You Bet those 18M were all registered Republicans ?

It's amazing how often we hear about this type of hacking these days. It's like outsiders have no problem getting into our servers, etc. Seems like someone could figure out a way to stop it.

Why is Obama making nice?

It's clear that it's the fault of the Republicans for enforcing the sequester that denied funds for maintaining adequate personnel to combat these attacks.

Even the Wall Street Journal understands the Republicans' complicity, as they wrote an editorial in today's issue

Quote:...faulting Congress for not passing a cybersecurity bill.....

(06-23-2015 10:47 PM)NIU05 Wrote:  So we have no strategy capable of protecting data? None? and no one is responsible?

(06-24-2015 07:07 AM)VA49er Wrote:  It's amazing how often we hear about this type of hacking these days. It's like outsiders have no problem getting into our servers, etc. Seems like someone could figure out a way to stop it.

lol.

you guys don't understand how IT Security works.

Think of a super high tech bank vault that has millions of dollars in it. Except with this bank vault, thieves have access to it. They can practice breaking into it. They try over and over. Sometimes you can find traces of ways they tried to get into it, and you adjust the security. Then eventually, the thieves figure it out and break in. Then you come in behind it and create a new, better lock.

Technology is ever changing, and these guys sit around and write millions of lines of code to try and break into servers.

You literally will have a 7 floor building filled up with nothing but servers and hundreds of guys on computers trying to hack.

It isn't like they forgot to upgrade to version 8.011 of McAfee.

You can have the most brilliant IT security guys on your side, and they can still get hacked. Any computer system in the world can get hacked. Plain and simple.

(06-23-2015 06:20 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  China can hack into any U.S. government or defense computer system at any time and Obama doesn't give a sh-t.

And you keep on making idiotic sweeping generalizations and don't give a **** how moronic you look.

Or I suppose you have some evidence that Obama embraces China hacking into our governmental computer systems.

Yeah...I thought so.

(06-24-2015 07:32 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 10:47 PM)NIU05 Wrote:  So we have no strategy capable of protecting data? None? and no one is responsible?

(06-24-2015 07:07 AM)VA49er Wrote:  It's amazing how often we hear about this type of hacking these days. It's like outsiders have no problem getting into our servers, etc. Seems like someone could figure out a way to stop it.

lol.

you guys don't understand how IT Security works.

Think of a super high tech bank vault that has millions of dollars in it. Except with this bank vault, thieves have access to it. They can practice breaking into it. They try over and over. Sometimes you can find traces of ways they tried to get into it, and you adjust the security. Then eventually, the thieves figure it out and break in. Then you come in behind it and create a new, better lock.

Technology is ever changing, and these guys sit around and write millions of lines of code to try and break into servers.

You literally will have a 7 floor building filled up with nothing but servers and hundreds of guys on computers trying to hack.

It isn't like they forgot to upgrade to version 8.011 of McAfee.

You can have the most brilliant IT security guys on your side, and they can still get hacked. Any computer system in the world can get hacked. Plain and simple.

Yes that's all well and good but someone has to be in charge of trying to stop the hackers. The head of that department should be held accountable. I'm not advocating firing the guy. But it would be nice to hear some accountability.

(06-24-2015 09:47 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 06:20 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  China can hack into any U.S. government or defense computer system at any time and Obama doesn't give a sh-t.

And you keep on making idiotic sweeping generalizations and don't give a **** how moronic you look.

Or I suppose you have some evidence that Obama embraces China hacking into our governmental computer systems.

Yeah...I thought so.

I'm sure he cares. And I bet he's going to make a commitment to get to the bottom of it. Just like he did for the IRS, Veterans Admin, Benghazi, Ft Hood, etc.

(06-24-2015 09:51 AM)DragonLair Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 07:32 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 10:47 PM)NIU05 Wrote:  So we have no strategy capable of protecting data? None? and no one is responsible?

(06-24-2015 07:07 AM)VA49er Wrote:  It's amazing how often we hear about this type of hacking these days. It's like outsiders have no problem getting into our servers, etc. Seems like someone could figure out a way to stop it.

lol.

you guys don't understand how IT Security works.

Think of a super high tech bank vault that has millions of dollars in it. Except with this bank vault, thieves have access to it. They can practice breaking into it. They try over and over. Sometimes you can find traces of ways they tried to get into it, and you adjust the security. Then eventually, the thieves figure it out and break in. Then you come in behind it and create a new, better lock.

Technology is ever changing, and these guys sit around and write millions of lines of code to try and break into servers.

You literally will have a 7 floor building filled up with nothing but servers and hundreds of guys on computers trying to hack.

It isn't like they forgot to upgrade to version 8.011 of McAfee.

You can have the most brilliant IT security guys on your side, and they can still get hacked. Any computer system in the world can get hacked. Plain and simple.

Yes that's all well and good but someone has to be in charge of trying to stop the hackers. The head of that department should be held accountable. I'm not advocating firing the guy. But it would be nice to hear some accountability.

what do you feel he would have done wrong though?

That's the thing. It isn't like someone just left a door unlocked. This isn't a war of whoever has more money wins. I will repeat this again. Anything can be hacked if a hacker wants to put forth the time and effort.

Unfortunately with hacking, while there are a lot of advancements in technology that are pre-emptive, a lot of it is reactionary as well. Some places are getting hacked a bunch of times each day. Security systems and personnel catch most of these. Problem is, the hackers are also figuring out how they get caught, and trying again. It literally evolves by the second on both sides.

(06-24-2015 07:32 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 10:47 PM)NIU05 Wrote:  So we have no strategy capable of protecting data? None? and no one is responsible?

(06-24-2015 07:07 AM)VA49er Wrote:  It's amazing how often we hear about this type of hacking these days. It's like outsiders have no problem getting into our servers, etc. Seems like someone could figure out a way to stop it.

lol.

you guys don't understand how IT Security works.

Think of a super high tech bank vault that has millions of dollars in it. Except with this bank vault, thieves have access to it. They can practice breaking into it. They try over and over. Sometimes you can find traces of ways they tried to get into it, and you adjust the security. Then eventually, the thieves figure it out and break in. Then you come in behind it and create a new, better lock.

Technology is ever changing, and these guys sit around and write millions of lines of code to try and break into servers.

You literally will have a 7 floor building filled up with nothing but servers and hundreds of guys on computers trying to hack.

It isn't like they forgot to upgrade to version 8.011 of McAfee.

You can have the most brilliant IT security guys on your side, and they can still get hacked. Any computer system in the world can get hacked. Plain and simple.

Dude, you dont understand modern IT security. If you run on a microsoft stack, then yea, you are an easy target. Which is why many of us dont run our backends on a microsoft stack. Our system doesnt have Macafee or ANY OTHER ANTIVIRUS on it because its not needed.

And thats part of the problem with the government. They lay unencrypted data out there on a Windows NT server, and then scratch their heads when they get a breach. And then you microsoft fluffers just mouth off and say "its hard, they will get in if they want to."

This is why I wish microsoft would just go rot away. Blue screeens, viruses, and unsecure systems are just the way of life for you guys.

(06-24-2015 10:02 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 07:32 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 10:47 PM)NIU05 Wrote:  So we have no strategy capable of protecting data? None? and no one is responsible?

(06-24-2015 07:07 AM)VA49er Wrote:  It's amazing how often we hear about this type of hacking these days. It's like outsiders have no problem getting into our servers, etc. Seems like someone could figure out a way to stop it.

lol.

you guys don't understand how IT Security works.

Think of a super high tech bank vault that has millions of dollars in it. Except with this bank vault, thieves have access to it. They can practice breaking into it. They try over and over. Sometimes you can find traces of ways they tried to get into it, and you adjust the security. Then eventually, the thieves figure it out and break in. Then you come in behind it and create a new, better lock.

Technology is ever changing, and these guys sit around and write millions of lines of code to try and break into servers.

You literally will have a 7 floor building filled up with nothing but servers and hundreds of guys on computers trying to hack.

It isn't like they forgot to upgrade to version 8.011 of McAfee.

You can have the most brilliant IT security guys on your side, and they can still get hacked. Any computer system in the world can get hacked. Plain and simple.

Dude, you dont understand modern IT security. If you run on a microsoft stack, then yea, you are an easy target. Which is why many of us dont run our backends on a microsoft stack. Our system doesnt have Macafee or ANY OTHER ANTIVIRUS on it because its not needed.

And thats part of the problem with the government. They lay unencrypted data out there on a Windows NT server, and then scratch their heads when they get a breach. And then you microsoft fluffers just mouth off and say "its hard, they will get in if they want to."

This is why I wish microsoft would just go rot away. Blue screeens, viruses, and unsecure systems are just the way of life for you guys.

Why do you say I don't understand modern IT security?
I know large systems don't run MacAfee. That's why I said IT security isn't just about upgrading to a new version of something.

I also understand that a ton of companies don't run a microsoft stack. Fact of the matter is that it can still get hacked.