We knew all along that the Confederate Battle flag caused all of this.

Its just disgusting watching people feign outrage and cut each other to pieces over stupid crap like this. Everyone is in such a hurry to judge each other and call each other racists. The media can just flick its little wrist and send the masses into a frenzy.....and everyone just plays right along like good little sheep.

Move the stupid little flag (again) if you think it really matters. Ban all sales of the stupid little flag if you think it matters.

Because Lord knows, this is VERY important stuff and will change our county forever.

Time to bring down those racist statues of confederate generals while your at it. And the Dukes of Hazzard and Lynyrd Skynyrd should be pulled from the shelves forever.

The best part is we get a million questions on this to every POTUS candidate for the rest of the election. The media can play gotcha with every single republican candidate the right can roast Hillary over her connection to the Arkansas state flag.

WE ARE ACTING LIKE FOOLS

The larger goal is to erase all traces if traditional American culture. The Confederate flag is just a tiny battle in the larger war.

Eventually it will be taught America began in the year 2000; nothing good or important happened before then.

(06-24-2015 05:54 AM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  The larger goal is to erase all traces if traditional American culture. The Confederate flag is just a tiny battle in the larger war.

Eventually it will be taught America began in the year 2000; nothing good or important happened before then.

No, That would be 2008 ! The Year Our Savior Obama took Charge of the Modern American Way of Life ! We are forever in His Debt .

We should take down the American flag everywhere since that was the flag we attempted to wipe out entire cultures under. I'm convinced nobody wants to talk about that one since Native Americans don't represent enough of a voting block. They were mostly absorbed (quite literally) into our society or they've been extinguished. The few that are left have been thrown a few crumbs and mostly live in small population states with little political power.

(06-24-2015 07:25 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  We should take down the American flag everywhere since that was the flag we attempted to wipe out entire cultures under. I'm convinced nobody wants to talk about that one since Native Americans don't represent enough of a voting block. They were mostly absorbed (quite literally) into our society or they've been extinguished. The few that are left have been thrown a few crumbs and mostly live in small population states with little political power.

I agree. Ban the American flag. We're headed in that direction, anyway.

(06-24-2015 07:25 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  We should take down the American flag everywhere since that was the flag we attempted to wipe out entire cultures under. I'm convinced nobody wants to talk about that one since Native Americans don't represent enough of a voting block. They were mostly absorbed (quite literally) into our society or they've been extinguished. The few that are left have been thrown a few crumbs and mostly live in small population states with little political power.

No no no, you got history all wrong. The Washington Redskins and the Marquette Warriors are responsible for such genocide!

Now that the flag is down, we should move to close down all Gold's Gyms. I mean, the dude was wearing a Gold's Gym shirt in that pic so that obvioulsy means that place of buisness in some way influenced him to commit murder. I think we can get traction on this. The herd mentality is strong these days.

The flag is a symbol of hatred. What part of "symbol " don't people understand?

(06-24-2015 09:16 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  The flag is a symbol of hatred. What part of "symbol " don't people understand?

This whole thing is an embarrassment for both "sides".

But people like you don't understand that or care, you just want to be able to label the other side as racists and pat yourself on the back for being more evolved than them.

Because nothing proves how evolved you are on race like "supporting" taking down one out of a countless number of different flags that may fly on any given local government property.

Is it best to move the flag in our new PC obsessed culture? Yes

Does it make a difference in the world? Nope

Is this just another political tool for the sheep to go BAAAHHHHHH! over? No doubt

Since this is a sports board, let's take a look at this issue from that perspective. How many college coaches revere the Battle Flag? Why or why not?

The only thing I think is amusing about the removal of the confederate flag is the "me too" knee jerk response from all corners of the country.

The day before the shooting at the SC AME church no one was talking about removing the flag. It was not an issue.

Then that horrible crime was committed by an evil maniac holding that flag.

The SC Gov says remove the flag from the statehouse grounds as an act of solidarity and respect which I thought was sincere and genuine...although a bit of grandstanding.

and now other states and municipalities are jumping on the remove it bandwagon.
even Wichita, Kansas (free state) which has it as part of a history of American flags display.

and companies are jumping on the bandwagon removing it too...More for PR than anything else.

Dylan Roof did not commit multiple murders because of the confederate flag. He committed murder because he is evil and mentally unstable. He would've done what he did even if he had never seen a confederate flag.
If he had been holding a crucifix would we be getting rid of all of those?

(06-24-2015 09:44 AM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  The only thing I think is amusing about the removal of the confederate flag is the "me too" knee jerk response from all corners of the country.

The day before the shooting at the SC AME church no one was talking about removing the flag. It was not an issue.

Then that horrible crime was committed by an evil maniac holding that flag.

The SC Gov says remove the flag from the statehouse grounds as an act of solidarity and respect which I thought was sincere and genuine...although a bit of grandstanding.

and now other states and municipalities are jumping on the remove it bandwagon.
even Wichita, Kansas (free state) which has it as part of a history of American flags display.

and companies are jumping on the bandwagon removing it too...More for PR than anything else.

Dylan Roof did not commit multiple murders because of the confederate flag. He committed murder because he is evil and mentally unstable. He would've done what he did even if he had never seen a confederate flag.
If he had been holding a crucifix would we be getting rid of all of those?

It's the herd mentality, that's all. It's actually pretty interesting to observe from a distance.

(06-24-2015 09:44 AM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  The only thing I think is amusing about the removal of the confederate flag is the "me too" knee jerk response from all corners of the country.

The day before the shooting at the SC AME church no one was talking about removing the flag. It was not an issue.

Then that horrible crime was committed by an evil maniac holding that flag.

The SC Gov says remove the flag from the statehouse grounds as an act of solidarity and respect which I thought was sincere and genuine...although a bit of grandstanding.

and now other states and municipalities are jumping on the remove it bandwagon.
even Wichita, Kansas (free state) which has it as part of a history of American flags display.

and companies are jumping on the bandwagon removing it too...More for PR than anything else.

Dylan Roof did not commit multiple murders because of the confederate flag. He committed murder because he is evil and mentally unstable. He would've done what he did even if he had never seen a confederate flag.
If he had been holding a crucifix would we be getting rid of all of those?

Its yet another example of the far left exploiting a horrible tragedy to further their self serving political agenda.

Its disgusting and half the country seems all to willing to play along and flip out over flags and civil war statues/relics nationwide.

(06-24-2015 09:48 AM)VA49er Wrote:  It's the herd mentality, that's all. It's actually pretty sad to observe from a distance.

fify

Either I am becoming a lot smarter and more mature in recent years or society has become perpetually stuck at a 4th grade level of maturity and intelligence.

(06-24-2015 09:49 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 09:48 AM)VA49er Wrote:  It's the herd mentality, that's all. It's actually pretty sad to observe from a distance.

fify

Either I am becoming a lot smarter and more mature in recent years or society has become perpetually stuck at a 4th grade level of maturity and intelligence.

Something can be both interesting from a societal/sociological standpoint and sad at the same time. The knee-jerk reaction to the flag removal fits both observations.

(06-24-2015 09:49 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 09:48 AM)VA49er Wrote:  It's the herd mentality, that's all. It's actually pretty sad to observe from a distance.

fify

Either I am becoming a lot smarter and more mature in recent years or society has become perpetually stuck at a 4th grade level of maturity and intelligence.

Yes, it's sad, but also interesting from a human behavior point of view. I mean, there was nothing wrong with the agreed upon compromise to bring the flag down from top of the capital building and put it on the memorial. All the relevant groups agreed to that compromise. Then, in a matter of days, the herd mentality kicks in and all of a sudden that isn't good enough.

(06-24-2015 09:54 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 09:49 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 09:48 AM)VA49er Wrote:  It's the herd mentality, that's all. It's actually pretty sad to observe from a distance.

fify

Either I am becoming a lot smarter and more mature in recent years or society has become perpetually stuck at a 4th grade level of maturity and intelligence.

Yes, it's sad, but also interesting from a human behavior point of view. I mean, there was nothing wrong with the agreed upon compromise to bring the flag down from top of the capital building and put it on the memorial. All the relevant groups agreed to that compromise. Then, in a matter of days, the herd mentality kicks in and all of a sudden that isn't good enough.

Amazon took down their confederate flags but are still selling swastikas.

That about sums up how FOS most people are being here.

(06-24-2015 09:57 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 09:54 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 09:49 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 09:48 AM)VA49er Wrote:  It's the herd mentality, that's all. It's actually pretty sad to observe from a distance.

fify

Either I am becoming a lot smarter and more mature in recent years or society has become perpetually stuck at a 4th grade level of maturity and intelligence.

Yes, it's sad, but also interesting from a human behavior point of view. I mean, there was nothing wrong with the agreed upon compromise to bring the flag down from top of the capital building and put it on the memorial. All the relevant groups agreed to that compromise. Then, in a matter of days, the herd mentality kicks in and all of a sudden that isn't good enough.

Amazon took down their confederate flags but are still selling swastikas.

That about sums up how FOS most people are being here.

Bet they still sell Che Guevar stuff too.
I shake my head when I see people wearing Guevar items. They must have no idea who/what that represents or they do understand who/what he is and they should move to Cuba and see what it is like living in his utopia.