Really good article.

(06-23-2015 12:35 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  All of this crying about S.Miss big wins over Bama or who ever back 10+ years ago has no bearing on any other team in CUSA back then or today other than....SMiss.

Couldn't someone ask you the same question when you post graphs and charts of what WKU did in basketball 15 years ago?

I think it's human nature to look to the distant past when the recent past has not been kind to us. And for the record, I think that what USM managed to accomplish year after year against otherwise solid P5 programs is nothing short of amazing, especially considering the resources at their disposal.

(06-22-2015 11:10 PM)SApuro Wrote:  Good article...stopped reading at UT-San Antonio. How F'in hard is it to call us UTSA?!

What's wrong with UT-San Antonio?

Isn't that what the schools name is?

(06-23-2015 09:11 AM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  

(06-22-2015 11:10 PM)SApuro Wrote:  Good article...stopped reading at UT-San Antonio. How F'in hard is it to call us UTSA?!

What's wrong with UT-San Antonio?

Isn't that what the schools name is?

They are embarrassed with the UT-San Antonio name. One of the "suckling pigs" attached to the bigpig in Austin. UNT fans call them nUTSAk. They answer to that name just fine.

(06-23-2015 09:30 AM)Green Menace Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 09:11 AM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  

(06-22-2015 11:10 PM)SApuro Wrote:  Good article...stopped reading at UT-San Antonio. How F'in hard is it to call us UTSA?!

What's wrong with UT-San Antonio?

Isn't that what the schools name is?

They are embarrassed with the UT-San Antonio name. One of the "suckling pigs" attached to the bigpig in Austin. UNT fans call them nUTSAk. They answer to that name just fine.

NT should call us Daddy because UTSA owns that ars.

University of Texas at El Paso=UTEP
University of Texas at San Antonio=UTSA

It's not that hard.

I'm a big fan of USM but this article came across as whining. O poor me we are terrible now because everyone "good" left. Rice has thrived in this revamped conference. USMs issues have more to do with internal matters than conference realignment.

(06-23-2015 09:46 AM)SApuro Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 09:30 AM)Green Menace Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 09:11 AM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  

(06-22-2015 11:10 PM)SApuro Wrote:  Good article...stopped reading at UT-San Antonio. How F'in hard is it to call us UTSA?!

What's wrong with UT-San Antonio?

Isn't that what the schools name is?

They are embarrassed with the UT-San Antonio name. One of the "suckling pigs" attached to the bigpig in Austin. UNT fans call them nUTSAk. They answer to that name just fine.

NT should call us Daddy because UTSA owns that ars.

University of Texas at El Paso=UTEP
University of Texas at San Antonio=UTSA

It's not that hard.

I'm a big fan of USM but this article came across as whining. O poor me we are terrible now because everyone "good" left. Rice has thrived in this revamped conference. USMs issues have more to do with internal matters than conference realignment.

Oh, this is so painfully true.

While a lot of this article is true and it is well written, it feels like another hit piece on mid major football. I mean because Marshall doesn't play on ESPN means they aren't legit?? WTF. I don't even like Marshall and I think that's a typical BS ESPiN comment.

(06-23-2015 10:25 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  While a lot of this article is true and it is well written, it feels like another hit piece on mid major football. I mean because Marshall doesn't play on ESPN means they aren't legit?? WTF. I don't even like Marshall and I think that's a typical BS ESPiN comment.

I totally agree. He also talked about all the teams who finished in the top 25 have moved on except Marshall ended the year in the top 25. Clearly, CUSA isn't as void of football success as the author believes. A few CUSA teams have a chance to be top 25 this upcoming season as well.

(06-23-2015 10:25 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  I mean because Marshall doesn't play on ESPN means they aren't legit?? WTF.

Yeah, I thought "Someone doesn't understand conference TV contracts" when reading that part.

I just hope they can become competitive again. They are awful. CUSA needs the 1980's Southern Miss.

(06-23-2015 12:35 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  S. Miss didn't go 0-12 or be where they are today because of who left CUSA...nope!

I disagree. Tell a group of kids they're small time, they're not worthy, etc. over and over again and eventually they'll reach a mental state where not even Vince Lombardi could win with them. I watched this happen at USM. Saw it coming for years.

(06-22-2015 10:05 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  Karma is a b#tch. When you fire a coach who devoted his life to Southern Miss football and had 14 straight winning seasons, you are going to feel the consequences. Now USM fans live with that decision. For those that wanted Bower gone, they deserve what USM football is now.

We don't owe anyone a damned job. That's one of the stupidest things I've read all day.

(06-22-2015 10:05 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  Karma is a b#tch. When you fire a coach who devoted his life to Southern Miss football and had 14 straight winning seasons, you are going to feel the consequences. Now USM fans live with that decision. For those that wanted Bower gone, they deserve what USM football is now.

Where was karma in 2011?

(06-22-2015 05:32 PM)monarx Wrote:  Maybe its because ODU is still new to the FBS, but I prefer to see CUSA as a rising ship. We almost finished as the top conference outside of the P5, Marshall was an overtime away from a playoff bowl, we had a top 25 basketball team and UAB won a first round game. With historically good teams like UAB, Charlotte, WKU, ODU, La Tech, USM, UTEP etc theres a good chance for hoops to improve too. I realize none of us will ever catch up to the P5, but CUSA is absolutely in the hunt to be the number one G5 conference. There is way more parity amongst the g5 than p5 which makes it more fun too. The rest of the country sees no difference between FAU, Western KY and East Carolina or Tulane. Unless you root for the G5, we're all the same. I know the old school USM and Rice fans think that sucks, but the scenario you all feel left you behind is now the AAC, which arguably is a bigger loser in football. You're in a better football conference than the AAC, or at least you were last season. And you're in a conference that has room to grow and more potential. Theres nowhere for the AAC to go. They've peaked and I suspect UConn and Cincy will either start to sink or get an invite soon too. I'm not discounting rivalries and geography, but thats not what the article was about. You're pining for something that was never within grasp. We all wish we were in a P5 conference, but they don't want to be friends with us so we'll do the best with what friends we do have. As a group, the G5 is still a good neighborhood with good people to play good football with.

(06-23-2015 09:46 AM)SApuro Wrote:  Rice has thrived in this revamped conference. USMs issues have more to do with internal matters than conference realignment.

USM's descent has everthing to do with USM and nothing to do with CUSA's former members leaving. To argue any different is irresponsible. USM rolled the dice by running off a dedicated coach and a proven winner and by bringing in someone with much bigger aspirations than living in Hattiesburg for long. These days, it's rare to find a coach that's dedicated to a program and who is also a winner. When you find one, you keep him.

(06-23-2015 11:44 AM)Afflicted Wrote:  USM's descent has everthing to do with USM and nothing to do with CUSA's former members leaving. To argue any different is irresponsible. USM rolled the dice by running off a dedicated coach and a proven winner and by bringing in someone with much bigger aspirations than living in Hattiesburg for long. These days, it's rare to find a coach that's dedicated to a program and who is also a winner. When you find one, you keep him.

Plus, weren't they 0-12 before the realignment? (2012)

(06-23-2015 11:44 AM)Afflicted Wrote:  USM's descent has everthing to do with USM and nothing to do with CUSA's former members leaving. To argue any different is irresponsible. USM rolled the dice by running off a dedicated coach and a proven winner and by bringing in someone with much bigger aspirations than living in Hattiesburg for long. These days, it's rare to find a coach that's dedicated to a program and who is also a winner. When you find one, you keep him.

I was a big Bower fan, but it was time for him to go. From 2001 to 2007 his teams won more than 7 games twice. The mistake wasn't running off Bower, it was replacing Fedora with a dinosaur and all his geriatric buddies.

All these schools that have never accomplished anything are telling us about our mistakes.

You were saying?

(06-23-2015 12:04 PM)USMSTUD Wrote:  From 2001 to 2007 his teams won more than 7 games twice.

And from 2008-2014, it's also only been done twice.