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RE: Those black kids learned yesterday.
(06-08-2015 09:12 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  
(06-08-2015 08:41 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
(06-08-2015 08:37 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  
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(06-08-2015 08:31 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  I guess they believe they have a right to swim in someone else's private pool.

It was their pool too.

Just like I have a right to Jerry Jones' backyard pool.

They were arresting people who lived there. An adult slapped a teen. You guys are full of it tonight.

Those adults need to be arrested.

http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2015/06/...says.html/





Tatyana Rhodes, who is black, told a photojournalist that another woman, who is white, told her to return to her public housing before slapping her in the face. Rhodes said she, her mother and sister live in the Craig Ranch subdivision and hosted the party there.

“She was saying things such as, ‘black F-er,’ and ‘That’s why you live in Section 8 homes,’” Rhodes said in a video posted to YouTube.


That woman and another woman “attacked me,”


Another eyewitness. Adults were probably drunk.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/07...30502.html

A white woman at the pool started making racist comments, Thomas said, such as telling black teens at the party to get used to the bars outside the pool because that’s all they were going to see.

Grace Stone, 14, who is white, told BuzzFeed News that she and friends objected to an adult woman making racist comments to other teens at the party and that the woman turned violent.

This is when, according to Thomas, a 19-year-old black woman told the belligerent white woman to stop fighting with the teenagers. The white woman called the black woman a “young *****,” then walked up to her. After the young woman said her age out loud, the older woman punched her in the face. Another unidentified white woman jumped in as well before Thomas, who was recording the incident, and his friends went to break it up.

HOW in the world would cops know who lived there? Most people don't carry ID when they go to the pool. I'm guessing the cops arrested those causing the disturbance regardless of where they lived. The charges once arrested would range from trespassing, creating a disturbance, and resisting arrest.

Cops didn't listen to anybody, just started arresting people of color according to an eyewitness.
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(06-08-2015 09:13 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  Excellent interview with a black resident of this neighborhood on Fox:

1) This is a racially mixed, middle class neighborhood with no racial problems. Whites, blacks, Hispanics, Asians, all live there in peace. That's the McKinney I know since moving there in 2003.

2) At the pool, you are allowed to have 2 guests with you (per household).

3) The party invitation went viral and over 130 kids from outside McKinney showed up.

4) This was a private party, and there were security guards present.

5) When the kids were told everyone could not come in because the party wasn't open to the general public, about seven of the teens jumped the iron rail fence to get in. They were not going to be denied entry.

6) Chaos ensued, the police were called ....

7) Racial epithets were thrown

8) Resident teens were hit by adults.

9) Parents will be pressing charges against adults who hit teens.

FIFY
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(06-08-2015 09:13 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  Excellent interview with a black resident of this neighborhood on Fox:

1) This is a racially mixed, middle class neighborhood with no racial problems. Whites, blacks, Hispanics, Asians, all live there in peace. That's the McKinney I know since moving there in 2003.

2) At the pool, you are allowed to have 2 guests with you (per household).

3) The party invitation went viral and over 130 kids from outside McKinney showed up.

4) This was a private party, and there were security guards present.

5) When the kids were told everyone could not come in because the party wasn't open to the general public, about seven of the teens jumped the iron rail fence to get in. They were not going to be denied entry.

6) Chaos ensued, the police were called ....

Sounds about right.
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(06-08-2015 09:18 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
(06-08-2015 09:13 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  Excellent interview with a black resident of this neighborhood on Fox:

1) This is a racially mixed, middle class neighborhood with no racial problems. Whites, blacks, Hispanics, Asians, all live there in peace. That's the McKinney I know since moving there in 2003.

2) At the pool, you are allowed to have 2 guests with you (per household).

3) The party invitation went viral and over 130 kids from outside McKinney showed up.

4) This was a private party, and there were security guards present.

5) When the kids were told everyone could not come in because the party wasn't open to the general public, about seven of the teens jumped the iron rail fence to get in. They were not going to be denied entry.

6) Chaos ensued, the police were called ....

7) Racial epithets were thrown

8) Resident teens were hit by adults.

9) Parents will be pressing charges against adults who hit teens.

FIFY

Would you crash a private party? And then if you were denied entry (for good reason), would you climb over the walls and threaten the people at the pool who objected to you going around security and climbing over the walls?

That's not something I would do. No rational person would. I'd be dialing 911 before they could get over the fence. And if they threatened my family, I'd do everything I could to protect my wife & kids.

Maybe the officer overreacted; that's under investigation. But we know right now the kids were wrong. That's indisputable.
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(06-08-2015 03:59 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
(06-08-2015 03:29 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  why was the girl resisting and trying to get away?

if a cop tries to get me to the ground for some bull****, I'm just going to the ground. fighting only makes it worse.

She is a 14yo girl that is being manhandled. That is usually their reaction.

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All of this makes me glad I have my own pool, patio, and grill in the backyard and don't have to worry about BS like this.
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Public pools are awful, anyway. I don't go near them.
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RE: Those black kids learned yesterday.
(06-08-2015 09:16 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
(06-08-2015 09:12 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  
(06-08-2015 08:41 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
(06-08-2015 08:37 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  
(06-08-2015 08:34 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  It was their pool too.

Just like I have a right to Jerry Jones' backyard pool.

They were arresting people who lived there. An adult slapped a teen. You guys are full of it tonight.

Those adults need to be arrested.

http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2015/06/...says.html/





Tatyana Rhodes, who is black, told a photojournalist that another woman, who is white, told her to return to her public housing before slapping her in the face. Rhodes said she, her mother and sister live in the Craig Ranch subdivision and hosted the party there.

“She was saying things such as, ‘black F-er,’ and ‘That’s why you live in Section 8 homes,’” Rhodes said in a video posted to YouTube.


That woman and another woman “attacked me,”


Another eyewitness. Adults were probably drunk.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/07...30502.html

A white woman at the pool started making racist comments, Thomas said, such as telling black teens at the party to get used to the bars outside the pool because that’s all they were going to see.

Grace Stone, 14, who is white, told BuzzFeed News that she and friends objected to an adult woman making racist comments to other teens at the party and that the woman turned violent.

This is when, according to Thomas, a 19-year-old black woman told the belligerent white woman to stop fighting with the teenagers. The white woman called the black woman a “young *****,” then walked up to her. After the young woman said her age out loud, the older woman punched her in the face. Another unidentified white woman jumped in as well before Thomas, who was recording the incident, and his friends went to break it up.

HOW in the world would cops know who lived there? Most people don't carry ID when they go to the pool. I'm guessing the cops arrested those causing the disturbance regardless of where they lived. The charges once arrested would range from trespassing, creating a disturbance, and resisting arrest.

Cops didn't listen to anybody, just started arresting people of color according to an eyewitness.

Worthless hear say.
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“I was one of the only white people in the area when that was happening. You can see in part of the video where he tells us to sit down, and he kinda like skips over me and tells all my African-American friends to go sit down.”

“They’re just going to discriminate against them because they’re black,” Brooks said. “What if that was your kid getting slung to the ground? Would you still be talking about them in the way that you are?”
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RE: Those black kids learned yesterday.
(06-09-2015 07:33 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  
(06-08-2015 09:16 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
(06-08-2015 09:12 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  
(06-08-2015 08:41 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
(06-08-2015 08:37 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  Just like I have a right to Jerry Jones' backyard pool.

They were arresting people who lived there. An adult slapped a teen. You guys are full of it tonight.

Those adults need to be arrested.

http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2015/06/...says.html/





Tatyana Rhodes, who is black, told a photojournalist that another woman, who is white, told her to return to her public housing before slapping her in the face. Rhodes said she, her mother and sister live in the Craig Ranch subdivision and hosted the party there.

“She was saying things such as, ‘black F-er,’ and ‘That’s why you live in Section 8 homes,’” Rhodes said in a video posted to YouTube.


That woman and another woman “attacked me,”


Another eyewitness. Adults were probably drunk.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/07...30502.html

A white woman at the pool started making racist comments, Thomas said, such as telling black teens at the party to get used to the bars outside the pool because that’s all they were going to see.

Grace Stone, 14, who is white, told BuzzFeed News that she and friends objected to an adult woman making racist comments to other teens at the party and that the woman turned violent.

This is when, according to Thomas, a 19-year-old black woman told the belligerent white woman to stop fighting with the teenagers. The white woman called the black woman a “young *****,” then walked up to her. After the young woman said her age out loud, the older woman punched her in the face. Another unidentified white woman jumped in as well before Thomas, who was recording the incident, and his friends went to break it up.

HOW in the world would cops know who lived there? Most people don't carry ID when they go to the pool. I'm guessing the cops arrested those causing the disturbance regardless of where they lived. The charges once arrested would range from trespassing, creating a disturbance, and resisting arrest.

Cops didn't listen to anybody, just started arresting people of color according to an eyewitness.

Worthless hear say.

Nope. It's on video.
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(06-09-2015 07:22 AM)MemphisTiger15 Wrote:  All of this makes me glad I have my own pool, patio, and grill in the backyard and don't have to worry about BS like this.

It's not a public pool.
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(06-09-2015 07:43 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
(06-09-2015 07:33 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  
(06-08-2015 09:16 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
(06-08-2015 09:12 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  
(06-08-2015 08:41 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  They were arresting people who lived there. An adult slapped a teen. You guys are full of it tonight.

Those adults need to be arrested.

http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2015/06/...says.html/





Tatyana Rhodes, who is black, told a photojournalist that another woman, who is white, told her to return to her public housing before slapping her in the face. Rhodes said she, her mother and sister live in the Craig Ranch subdivision and hosted the party there.

“She was saying things such as, ‘black F-er,’ and ‘That’s why you live in Section 8 homes,’” Rhodes said in a video posted to YouTube.


That woman and another woman “attacked me,”


Another eyewitness. Adults were probably drunk.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/07...30502.html

A white woman at the pool started making racist comments, Thomas said, such as telling black teens at the party to get used to the bars outside the pool because that’s all they were going to see.

Grace Stone, 14, who is white, told BuzzFeed News that she and friends objected to an adult woman making racist comments to other teens at the party and that the woman turned violent.

This is when, according to Thomas, a 19-year-old black woman told the belligerent white woman to stop fighting with the teenagers. The white woman called the black woman a “young *****,” then walked up to her. After the young woman said her age out loud, the older woman punched her in the face. Another unidentified white woman jumped in as well before Thomas, who was recording the incident, and his friends went to break it up.

HOW in the world would cops know who lived there? Most people don't carry ID when they go to the pool. I'm guessing the cops arrested those causing the disturbance regardless of where they lived. The charges once arrested would range from trespassing, creating a disturbance, and resisting arrest.

Cops didn't listen to anybody, just started arresting people of color according to an eyewitness.

Worthless hear say.

Nope. It's on video.

So because Tatyana's interview was on video, it isn't hearsay?
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1. I have no problem with the police responding to this pool party. I live in a subdivision with a community pool as well. If 100 people (of any color) showed up jumping fences and acting loud and obnoxious I would not be happy either. I can't speak for this particular neighborhood, but most community pools are not very big.

2. Obviously we only have the privilege of seeing about seven minutes of activity and do not have access to what took place before and after the film. That being said, I do think the police officer went a tad over board. I see no reason for him to draw his weapon and frankly I see no point to wrestling the 14 year old girl to the ground. I am sure she was not listening and being a complete *****, but frankly nothing was going to come good of putting his hands on her.

3. I see no evidence of a racial component here. The cops were called to the scene by residents of the community. It was appropriate for them to respond. I would suspect the officer's response would have been similar even if there were 100-150 white kids on the scene and they behaved in the same manner as the kids in this video. FWIW, I have seen numerous encounters with the police and white teens that have played out similarly. As a parent of a teen I know how they like to talk about things they know nothing about and pop their mouth off when they shouldn't.
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(06-08-2015 09:12 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  HOW in the world would cops know who lived there? Most people don't carry ID when they go to the pool. I'm guessing the cops arrested those causing the disturbance regardless of where they lived. The charges once arrested would range from trespassing, creating a disturbance, and resisting arrest.

Cops didn't listen to anybody, just started arresting people of color according to an eyewitness.

Worthless hear say.

Nope. It's on video.

So because Tatyana's interview was on video, it isn't hearsay?

Eyewitness Brandon Brooks caught it actually happening on video.
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we are never going to know the whole story. I do fell uneasy about manhandling a 14 year old like that and it is probably why the department put him on admin leave.
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"See, what had happened was..."
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was at a party when I was in high school. cops were called due to noise. A couple people, guys and girls were wrestled to the ground after they tried to get away and not cooperate.

for some reason that didn't make the news.
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I crashed a few parties, but when people asked me to leave, I gave up on it.
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(06-09-2015 08:18 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
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(06-09-2015 07:43 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
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(06-08-2015 09:16 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Cops didn't listen to anybody, just started arresting people of color according to an eyewitness.

Worthless hear say.

Nope. It's on video.

So because Tatyana's interview was on video, it isn't hearsay?

Eyewitness Brandon Brooks caught it actually happening on video.

Did You notice on full video, The White Guy filming it was never asked to sit but His 2 friends were, including the one whom returned the Flashlight the officer dropped when He fell to the other Cop whom thanked Him for returning it. Just shows You only 1 Cop was way over excited while the rest were calm and collected.
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(06-09-2015 08:33 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  was at a party when I was in high school. cops were called due to noise. A couple people, guys and girls were wrestled to the ground after they tried to get away and not cooperate.

for some reason that didn't make the news.

Was riding with someone in high school. Cops thought we had been drag racing and got in behind us. He tried to outrun the cop at about 130 mph and lost control in an S-curve, lucky we didn't flip or wreck. I learned very quick at 17 yrs old to do exactly what LEO say do while staring down the barrel of his gun. My buddy's head "accidentally" smacked the top of the cop car when they put him in the back, so I made sure to duck as low as I could when they put me in the back seat. Surprisingly, my parents didn't scream police brutality or make a big deal about any of that. After getting me home from juvenile court, they just beat my tail for getting arrested and that was the end of that.
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