UGA paid us the going rate for an FCS team, which is what we were when this game was scheduled. We need to play whoever we need to play to keep the doors open. Don't forget, we have the second smallest athletic budget in the FBS.

(05-27-2015 07:44 AM)bullitt_60 Wrote:  UGA paid us the going rate for an FCS team, which is what we were when this game was scheduled. We need to play whoever we need to play to keep the doors open. Don't forget, we have the second smallest athletic budget in the FBS.

Correction, 3rd smallest as the new numbers came out yesterday.

(05-27-2015 08:10 AM)dahbeed Wrote:  

I don't it'll even be possible to play 3 money games even if a school wanted to. With the Big 10 moving to 9 conference games, there isn't going to be enough P5 team to schedule. And it won't be long before the ACC and SEC move to 9 games also.

Lets say we average 25K per game. We aren't talking about 25K tickets sales because 8-10K+ are students so lets say 15K actual ticket sales x $35 = 525000/game. Not bad and great for the local economy. The problem is we are talking bout replacing games that only draw 15K ( now you are looking at only $280K or less, I think $38 is on the high end of the average ticket price after discounts and promotions). I would love to get better home games, but if all we can get are FCS and MAC schools then we might be better getting games in neighboring states (and instate) for easy travel. I loved the 2014 schedule and want to play more ACC schools (especially if we get 1.5M+). Until we can get home games with decent teams then playing nearby money games (and the occasional long trip) should be a viable option.

We got Ole Miss and GT in 2016, then a random FCS (probably SSU) and away to directional Mich. The 2 money games are the only ones I'm looking forward to attending in the OOC schedule.

Lets take some lumps by traveling (but return the favor by beating these teams) and start building a rep and maybe to a small expansion to reach ~30K seats to be able draw better teams to Paulson.

(05-27-2015 09:16 AM)trueeagle98 Wrote:  Lets say we average 25K per game. We aren't talking about 25K tickets sales because 8-10K+ are students so lets say 15K actual ticket sales x $35 = 525000/game. Not bad and great for the local economy. The problem is we are talking bout replacing games that only draw 15K ( now you are looking at only $280K or less, I think $38 is on the high end of the average ticket price after discounts and promotions). I would love to get better home games, but if all we can get are FCS and MAC schools then we might be better getting games in neighboring states (and instate) for easy travel. I loved the 2014 schedule and want to play more ACC schools (especially if we get 1.5M+). Until we can get home games with decent teams then playing nearby money games (and the occasional long trip) should be a viable option.

We got Ole Miss and GT in 2016, then a random FCS (probably SSU) and away to directional Mich. The 2 money games are the only ones I'm looking forward to attending in the OOC schedule.

Lets take some lumps by traveling (but return the favor by beating these teams) and start building a rep and maybe to a small expansion to reach ~30K seats to be able draw better teams to Paulson.

Averaging 25K is optimistic to say the least. Western Michigan is a very solid G5 team. We may be underdogs when we travel up there. Also adding 5,000 seats is not a small expansion. It will likely cost millions to add in that many seats (correctly). I agree that going on the road to well known southeast P5 teams is more enjoyable than a home game against a bad G5 or FCS team.

(05-27-2015 09:28 AM)sidslidkid Wrote:  

(05-27-2015 09:16 AM)trueeagle98 Wrote:  Lets say we average 25K per game. We aren't talking about 25K tickets sales because 8-10K+ are students so lets say 15K actual ticket sales x $35 = 525000/game. Not bad and great for the local economy. The problem is we are talking bout replacing games that only draw 15K ( now you are looking at only $280K or less, I think $38 is on the high end of the average ticket price after discounts and promotions). I would love to get better home games, but if all we can get are FCS and MAC schools then we might be better getting games in neighboring states (and instate) for easy travel. I loved the 2014 schedule and want to play more ACC schools (especially if we get 1.5M+). Until we can get home games with decent teams then playing nearby money games (and the occasional long trip) should be a viable option.

We got Ole Miss and GT in 2016, then a random FCS (probably SSU) and away to directional Mich. The 2 money games are the only ones I'm looking forward to attending in the OOC schedule.

Lets take some lumps by traveling (but return the favor by beating these teams) and start building a rep and maybe to a small expansion to reach ~30K seats to be able draw better teams to Paulson.

Averaging 25K is optimistic to say the least. Western Michigan is a very solid G5 team. We may be underdogs when we travel up there. Also adding 5,000 seats is not a small expansion. It will likely cost millions to add in that many seats (correctly). I agree that going on the road to well known southeast P5 teams is more enjoyable than a home game against a bad G5 or FCS team.

You need to read the whole thread and post. I was responding to a previous post that claimed 25K and was being generous with that. and the Directional Mich team is only recently a good team they were horrid just a few ago and it still doesn't matter NIU (routinely in the top of G5) wouldn't register much with the casual fan/student in the south. Only if they came to Statesboro ranked in the top 25 would it bring a crowd. Just saying we aren't really giving up much by going to a nearby P5 school pay game vs a "who are ya?" team at Paulson.

(05-23-2015 10:20 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  If we have to schedule three money games our leaders are doing their jobs. Terrible idea.

THIS. I am all for playing the best but at the expense of home only having five home games every year is plain asinine. The only way it would be mildly acceptable is if you get a two for one deals mixed in.

(05-24-2015 06:46 PM)trueeagle98 Wrote:  If we can't get a decent home game then why not get paid. Get 2 pay games relatively close and one far away could work until we can get some homes worth a damn.

Because attending a game at GS is much more than sitting in the stands. It is an all day event hanging with friends and family.

(05-27-2015 08:42 AM)bullitt_60 Wrote:  

(05-27-2015 07:44 AM)bullitt_60 Wrote:  UGA paid us the going rate for an FCS team, which is what we were when this game was scheduled. We need to play whoever we need to play to keep the doors open. Don't forget, we have the second smallest athletic budget in the FBS.

Correction, 3rd smallest as the new numbers came out yesterday.

(05-27-2015 08:10 AM)dahbeed Wrote:  

That water is so crap filled even an eagle can walk on it!

(05-27-2015 10:03 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(05-24-2015 06:46 PM)trueeagle98 Wrote:  If we can't get a decent home game then why not get paid. Get 2 pay games relatively close and one far away could work until we can get some homes worth a damn.

Because attending a game at GS is much more than sitting in the stands. It is an all day event hanging with friends and family.

You can do that at away games too. In fact I see more family and friends at big away games than home games.
Your argument is null and void.

(05-27-2015 10:21 AM)trueeagle98 Wrote:  

(05-27-2015 10:03 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(05-24-2015 06:46 PM)trueeagle98 Wrote:  If we can't get a decent home game then why not get paid. Get 2 pay games relatively close and one far away could work until we can get some homes worth a damn.

Because attending a game at GS is much more than sitting in the stands. It is an all day event hanging with friends and family.

You can do that at away games too. In fact I see more family and friends at big away games than home games.
Your argument is null and void.

No it's not.

Being in Paulson is special (and getting to be expensive). You want people to keep paying for it? We better be giving them at least 6 home games almost every year. Don't forget that one will likely be mid week - so there is another Saturday at Paulson lost. Last year with only 3 Saturdays at home SUCKED. I went to both Thursday night games (NCSTATE AND GT). Still, Paulson on Saturday is special and I have lots of friends who couldnt make the Thursday night game or the NC State game. We don't need to dilute the value of our season tickets (which includes the factored in contribution levels to buy them).

Great attendances and expanding Paulson (Justified only by increased Season ticket sales) is what we need to get a P5 into Statesboro.

(05-27-2015 10:16 AM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(05-27-2015 08:42 AM)bullitt_60 Wrote:  

(05-27-2015 07:44 AM)bullitt_60 Wrote:  UGA paid us the going rate for an FCS team, which is what we were when this game was scheduled. We need to play whoever we need to play to keep the doors open. Don't forget, we have the second smallest athletic budget in the FBS.

Correction, 3rd smallest as the new numbers came out yesterday.

(05-27-2015 08:10 AM)dahbeed Wrote:  

That water is so crap filled even an eagle can walk on it!

Well... I guess we did "walk" right over the Sun Belt.. so....

(05-27-2015 07:44 AM)bullitt_60 Wrote:  UGA paid us the going rate for an FCS team, which is what we were when this game was scheduled. We need to play whoever we need to play to keep the doors open. Don't forget, we have the second smallest athletic budget in the FBS.

First we ARE getting paid more for this game because they rescheduled it.
But we aren't getting what Nebraska is paying.

Second: uga has always short changed Southern. Infact, to get some FCS teams to come to Paulson, We would actually have to pay them about what those RED COATS were paying us.

How much did UGA pay us in 2008?
How much did Michigan pay App State in 2007?

Look at the difference in those figures and tell me that those suns of &!+*@$ were paying us what we were worth to fill "Stankford Stadium".

Our former AD would take that game for exposure, not $. Which has value and I enjoy it to some degree even though they cheat like crazy. But still we probably pocketed as much or more playing Savannah State at home than we brought back with us from Athellns.

DANG A DAWG DOT COM!

(05-27-2015 09:16 AM)trueeagle98 Wrote:  Lets say we average 25K per game. We aren't talking about 25K tickets sales because 8-10K+ are students so lets say 15K actual ticket sales x $35 = 525000/game. Not bad and great for the local economy. The problem is we are talking bout replacing games that only draw 15K ( now you are looking at only $280K or less, I think $38 is on the high end of the average ticket price after discounts and promotions). I would love to get better home games, but if all we can get are FCS and MAC schools then we might be better getting games in neighboring states (and instate) for easy travel. I loved the 2014 schedule and want to play more ACC schools (especially if we get 1.5M+). Until we can get home games with decent teams then playing nearby money games (and the occasional long trip) should be a viable option.

We got Ole Miss and GT in 2016, then a random FCS (probably SSU) and away to directional Mich. The 2 money games are the only ones I'm looking forward to attending in the OOC schedule.

Lets take some lumps by traveling (but return the favor by beating these teams) and start building a rep and maybe to a small expansion to reach ~30K seats to be able draw better teams to Paulson.

I like playing the ACC to, as many are beatable.

But don't forget that home games are a great place to develop great memories that turn those 10k Students into life long fans/supporters.

Don't sell home games short, even if it is a MAC or CUSA (other G5).

Sure, I want to get some South based g5's that have been FBS for a long time into Paulson like Southern Miss, LaTech, etc. Instead of MAC programs. Just because so many people don't even know who a bunch of these guys are and if they are even FBS.

(05-25-2015 07:51 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(05-25-2015 07:45 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(05-25-2015 06:33 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(05-24-2015 07:59 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  Marshall in Conference USA is not playing a money game this season.

Marshall hasn't played a 1 and done since 2010 when they played Ohio State and haven't signed a 1 and done contract since 2008. Our current AD Mike Hamrick has never signed a 1 and done while at Marshall and said very few if any would be signed under him.

We will finish up a 1-1 with Purdue this year and another 1-1 with Louisville next year. We will start a 1-1 with Pittsburgh next year and a 1-1 with NC State in 2017. We have been pretty good with getting decent 1-1s with schools in the P5 that are actually winnable games.

Unless you are seriously strapped for cash I don't understand selling yourself to the highest bidder to only get your head kicked in 95% of the time and usually leaving their stadium with some kind of injury. The price of playing the likes LSU, Alabama, Florida State and others knowing those schools would never play you at home just isn't worth it to me.

And if you are so strapped for cash you have to sell your soul 2-3 times a year then you should ask yourself if you should really be IA.

Some of the most critical injuries in AState history came at home against FCS teams. We once lost two starters for the season in the opener against a SWAC. I don't buy the injury argument.

Agreed.

When ULM defeated Arkansas we came out of that game with no significant injuries while three Hog starters were gone for the season.

The injury argument is ridiculous, injuries happen anytime against anyone. If anything it's the other way around, people get hurt more often when their opponent is exhausted and tackling with poor form or the lineman are just falling down to catch their breath. It's not because the other guy is bigger or stronger, sloppy play and exhaustion causes more injuries than anything.

Playing 3 money games per year is more likely to drive your asking price down as your AD will have very little negotiating leverage. Simply put, he can't say no to any offer because he needs 3 games. Finding 3 money games each year with known teams without scheduling conflicts makes it even trickier.

Also as one of you posters pointed out, 90% of your students will not be able to attend away games even if it is 3 hours away in ATL. Do you want to build your base for the future or appeal to the ego of a bunch of old men (myself included) who have the time and money to follow the team all around the south?

How many wins does GSU have over a P5 school? I'm talking actual wins, where the scoreboard has GSU with more points.

10?
15?
20?
25?

I'm sure it's somewhere in between the first and last...must be closer to 25 since GSU wants 3 a year...on the road

(05-27-2015 06:03 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  How many wins does GSU have over a P5 school? I'm talking actual wins, where the scoreboard has GSU with more points.

10?
15?
20?
25?

I'm sure it's somewhere in between the first and last...must be closer to 25 since GSU wants 3 a year...on the road

How many FBS conference titles does WKU have?