The NFL Report is out, Brady cheated, so Kraft you owe everyone who blamed the Patriots an apology.

What do you think is Brady's appropriate punishment? I say a 4-game suspension.

"The NFL has released its findings on the Patriots "Deflategate" scandal and has found "it is more probable than not" two team employees conspired to release air from game balls -- and Tom Brady was "generally aware" of the "inappropriate" activity.

"We ...... believe, based on the totality of the evidence, that it is more probable than not that (Tom) Brady was at least generally aware of the inappropriate activities ...," the report states."

Your Super Bowls are bogus and so are you and Brady.

At minimum, it's clear that Brady lied to Wells about not knowing who Jim McNally was.

This is worse than smoking pot.

It is still "more probable than not" that the Patriots win the Super Bowl. Get over it guys...

The report has *no proof* Brady was involved.

But let's pretend Brady was involved ... This is the equivalent of a baseball pitcher scuffing a ball with a nail file. When caught, pitchers get suspended for two starts. Since they usually have 32 starts in a season, that's 1/16 of their season.

Based on that, Brady should be suspended for one game.

(05-06-2015 04:48 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  The NFL Report is out, Brady cheated, so Kraft you owe everyone who blamed the Patriots an apology.

What do you think is Brady's appropriate punishment? I say a 4-game suspension.

"The NFL has released its findings on the Patriots "Deflategate" scandal and has found "it is more probable than not" two team employees conspired to release air from game balls -- and Tom Brady was "generally aware" of the "inappropriate" activity.

"We ...... believe, based on the totality of the evidence, that it is more probable than not that (Tom) Brady was at least generally aware of the inappropriate activities ...," the report states."

Your Super Bowls are bogus and so are you and Brady.

You go on believing that.

coachspeak even in the findings.... saying a lot without saying anything...

(05-06-2015 06:35 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 04:48 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  The NFL Report is out, Brady cheated, so Kraft you owe everyone who blamed the Patriots an apology.

What do you think is Brady's appropriate punishment? I say a 4-game suspension.

"The NFL has released its findings on the Patriots "Deflategate" scandal and has found "it is more probable than not" two team employees conspired to release air from game balls -- and Tom Brady was "generally aware" of the "inappropriate" activity.

"We ...... believe, based on the totality of the evidence, that it is more probable than not that (Tom) Brady was at least generally aware of the inappropriate activities ...," the report states."

Your Super Bowls are bogus and so are you and Brady.

You go on believing that.

You were "de-flated", and Kraft and Brady were BUSTED. You go on believing whatever you want to believe, but the NFL report concludes that your pathetic defense of the Patriots was Dead Wrong.

Maybe someone should let the Patriots fans (cough UConn-SMU cough)who keep saying there was not any "proof," that the term "more probable than not" is the term that is proven in civil court, much like in criminal court it is "beyond a reasonable doubt." As this was not an activity of "criminal" nature, that terminology should not be confuses with no proof.

(05-06-2015 06:29 PM)LSUtah Wrote:  It is still "more probable than not" that the Patriots win Seahawks lost the Super Bowl. Get over it guys...

FIFY

(05-07-2015 03:54 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  Maybe someone should let the Patriots fans (cough UConn-SMU cough)who keep saying there was not any "proof," that the term "more probable than not" is the term that is proven in civil court, much like in criminal court it is "beyond a reasonable doubt." As this was not an activity of "criminal" nature, that terminology should not be confuses with no proof.

C'mon now. You should know by now that UCONN-SMU (and other Patriot nut-huggers) don't deal well with facts. It's like kryptonite to them. They deal in extreme hyperbole!!

More probable than not means a 51% chance of being right, and a 49% chance of being wrong.

(05-07-2015 08:44 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  More probable than not means a 51% chance of being right, and a 49% chance of being wrong.

No, it means a minimum of 51% chance of being right, and a 49% chance of being wrong, up to a 99% chance of being right, and a 1% chance of being wrong. Truthfully it can even mean a 100% chance of being right, but I don't want to give you too much at once to chew on.

The Patriots would have won it all regardless. Deflated balls had no impact on the second half of the Colts game (where the Patriots dominated). For all we know, the Pats would have also rolled in the first half with properly inflated balls. As for the Super Bowl against the Chokehawks, it was won fair and square.

Patriot haters are just jealous of the Patriots dynasty and they are also jealous of Tom Brady's life. Just because you don't have a supermodel wife or the chin of a cartoon pilot, STOP WHINING!!!

Thou Shalt Not Envy.

Tom Brady should be suspended. NFL also wanted to see his email and phone records and he didn't let them. Probably had something on them he didn't want them to see. Will probably not get suspended a game or two but I'm opinion no better than people he cheat. Pete Rose gambled on baseball and got blackballed and expelled from baseball, Tom Brady lies and cheats gets a one or two game suspension. Should be suspended the entire season I'm opinion. The Ravens knew about the deflated balls as well so tells me this has been going on for a few years. Brady just got caught but doesn't care and thinks he is to big time to fall (and he probably is).

(05-08-2015 10:30 AM)UConnHusky Wrote:  The Patriots would have won it all regardless. Deflated balls had no impact on the second half of the Colts game (where the Patriots dominated).

Maybe. But since they were tipped off by the Ravens because they did also do it in that game, they could have helped them in that games do could have changed the outcome very easily. Besides when did we start handicapping cheating by how it affected the outcome? Pete rose bet on his team to win games: I doubt that cost them games, yet he is out of baseball. Sammy Sosa was suspended for a corked back when there is little roof as to how much it helps (and he was always striking out at that point) and he was suspended. He Falcons pumped in crowd noise and lost 3/4 of their home games: they were still fined. Why all of a sudden does the "effectiveness" of the cheating matter with the Pats, then it has NEVER mattered with anyone else who has ever been caught cheating? Ever!

Brady "cheated" much, much less than Jerry Rice. Why is no one talking about Rice? No one objected to him wearing glue on his hands for 20 years, but Brady plays with a ball at 11 psi instead of 12 psi, and he needs to tarred and feathered.

Rice should be tossed from the Hall of Fame. And all of his records need to erased.

(05-08-2015 05:56 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  Brady "cheated" much, much less than Jerry Rice. Why is no one talking about Rice? No one objected to him wearing glue on his hands for 20 years, but Brady plays with a ball at 11 psi instead of 12 psi, and he needs to tarred and feathered.

Rice should be tossed from the Hall of Fame. And all of his records need to erased.

Sure, as long as Brady's are as well

Rice hasn't played in 10 years. Brady is still playing. Most understand the difference.

The Patriot hatred/jealousy is strong.

Good.

(05-08-2015 07:43 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  The Patriot hatred/jealousy is strong.

Good.

Please...Patriot Hatred doesn't come close to Cowboy Hatred....