I have my issues with Pastner and think it's NCAA tourney or else, but you have to hand it to him for consistently getting immediately-eligible impact D1 transfers. You could argue he shouldn't have to fill holes like that in the first place but I'll take a positive contributor whatever the circumstances.

Ricky Tarrant is going to have a huge impact, dude had to immediately be the man as a freshman at Tulane then was one of Alabama's top contributors before getting hurt. If healthy he's at least another viable scoring option who's averaged 16 in a bad D1 conference and 13 in a decent one. Much rather see him than Avery Woodson out there jacking 3s and nothing else.

Neither he nor Kedren (another impact transfer) are pure PGs by any means but together they'll be all right. Kedren clearly needed help late in the season; it was painful to see him back guys down and push off for 70 feet. His conditioning and correlated efficacy has nowhere to go but up.

Nichols and Goodwin *should* be one of the better front courts in the conference if not the nation. Then you got Burrell and Crawford as the face guarding chasers in that weird box-and-1/amoeba/triangle-and-2 stuff Pastner seems fixated on.

All in all I think we should fare well in the conference, enough to get a tourney berth and save Pastner for now. And Tarrant is the key, I bet he leads us minutes and scoring and most importantly keeps Woodson off the court and Crawford from playing point.

(05-04-2015 04:34 PM)lemmingleap Wrote:  I have my issues with Pastner and think it's NCAA tourney or else, but you have to hand it to him for consistently getting immediately-eligible impact D1 transfers. You could argue he shouldn't have to fill holes like that in the first place but I'll take a positive contributor whatever the circumstances.

Ricky Tarrant is going to have a huge impact, dude had to immediately be the man as a freshman at Tulane then was one of Alabama's top contributors before getting hurt. If healthy he's at least another viable scoring option who's averaged 16 in a bad D1 conference and 13 in a decent one. Much rather see him than Avery Woodson out there jacking 3s and nothing else.

Neither he nor Kedren (another impact transfer) are pure PGs by any means but together they'll be all right. Kedren clearly needed help late in the season; it was painful to see him back guys down and push off for 70 feet. His conditioning and correlated efficacy has nowhere to go but up.

Nichols and Goodwin *should* be one of the better front courts in the conference if not the nation. Then you got Burrell and Crawford as the face guarding chasers in that weird box-and-1/amoeba/triangle-and-2 stuff Pastner seems fixated on.

All in all I think we should fare well in the conference, enough to get a tourney berth and save Pastner for now. And Tarrant is the key, I bet he leads us minutes and scoring and most importantly keeps Woodson off the court and Crawford from playing point.

Interesting...

Woodsons game deteriorated when we started needing (using) him for more than a few minutes per night.

Pastner wants to settle on a shorter, eight man rotation....

Kedren Johnson
Ricky Tarrant
Trashon Burrell
Austin Nichols
Shaq Goodwin

that's four seniors and one junior....

guess at other 3...

D Lawson
KJ Lawson
Player to be signed later

to me, Pastner is an above average defensive coach, but below average when it comes to personel. This is communicating, motivating, and choosing the correct players at the correct times. It seems he's at it again choosing a ton of guards and going light on the interior. What will we have after next year on the inside? Balance is what we need (and a couple top 10 guys)

(05-04-2015 06:33 PM)tigerjamesc Wrote:  to me, Pastner is an above average defensive coach, but below average when it comes to personel. This is communicating, motivating, and choosing the correct players at the correct times. It seems he's at it again choosing a ton of guards and going light on the interior. What will we have after next year on the inside? Balance is what we need (and a couple top 10 guys)

Watch teams run the high screen and roll against us all year and watch us guard it the same in mam to man against every team. Surely there could have been 1 team where we didn't have to hedge on every high screen, surely every team we played didn't have deadly shooters on the perimeter and we could have gone under some of the screens set for certain players

Tells.

Wow. OP ONLY has one post. Must be one of Josh Pastners 10 aliases.

(05-04-2015 05:12 PM)holyterror Wrote:  Woodsons game deteriorated when we started needing (using) him for more than a few minutes per night.

Memphis with Woodson:

10-7 when Avery played 25+ mpg.

8-7 when he played less than 25 mins.

As for game "deterioration" Woodson shot 41.8% from three (38-91) in games in which he played MORE than 30 mins and shot 32.3% (23-71) in games he played fewer than 30 mins.

I think if the criticism is that he is one dimensional, I can see that. However, he is a shooter and the numbers seem to show that the more he played the better he shot.

(05-04-2015 06:32 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  Pastner wants to settle on a shorter, eight man rotation....

Kedren Johnson
Ricky Tarrant
Trashon Burrell
Austin Nichols
Shaq Goodwin

that's four seniors and one junior....

guess at other 3...

D Lawson
KJ Lawson
Player to be signed later

So Markel is getting mothballed?

Ugh.

(05-05-2015 09:17 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(05-04-2015 05:12 PM)holyterror Wrote:  Woodsons game deteriorated when we started needing (using) him for more than a few minutes per night.

Memphis with Woodson:

10-7 when Avery played 25+ mpg.

8-7 when he played less than 25 mins.

As for game "deterioration" Woodson shot 41.8% from three (38-91) in games in which he played MORE than 30 mins and shot 32.3% (23-71) in games he played fewer than 30 mins.

I think if the criticism is that he is one dimensional, I can see that. However, he is a shooter and the numbers seem to show that the more he played the better he shot.

Lol...That's funny

The reason he shot better when he got more minutes is due to Pastner's "You make shots you play more substitution pattern". Therefore the making of the shots is what got him the extra minutes. Missing of the shots got him put on the bench.

(05-05-2015 09:19 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(05-04-2015 06:32 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  Pastner wants to settle on a shorter, eight man rotation....

Kedren Johnson
Ricky Tarrant
Trashon Burrell
Austin Nichols
Shaq Goodwin

that's four seniors and one junior....

guess at other 3...

D Lawson
KJ Lawson
Player to be signed later

So Markel is getting mothballed?

Ugh.

He will be the one that the sheep here will say "didn't work on his shot enough during the summer"'or "didn't work on his ball handling" or " has too many people in his ear" when he decides to transfer after next season.

(05-05-2015 02:15 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(05-05-2015 09:19 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(05-04-2015 06:32 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  Pastner wants to settle on a shorter, eight man rotation....

Kedren Johnson
Ricky Tarrant
Trashon Burrell
Austin Nichols
Shaq Goodwin

that's four seniors and one junior....

guess at other 3...

D Lawson
KJ Lawson
Player to be signed later

So Markel is getting mothballed?

Ugh.

He will be the one that the sheep here will say "didn't work on his shot enough during the summer"'or "didn't work on his ball handling" or " has too many people in his ear" when he decides to transfer after next season.

He "only" transferred to (fill in the name of a school here), so what does that tell you?

(05-05-2015 09:19 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(05-04-2015 06:32 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  Pastner wants to settle on a shorter, eight man rotation....

Kedren Johnson
Ricky Tarrant
Trashon Burrell
Austin Nichols
Shaq Goodwin

that's four seniors and one junior....

guess at other 3...

D Lawson
KJ Lawson
Player to be signed later

So Markel is getting mothballed?

Ugh.

If you break it down by position rather than class, Crawford appears as an integral part of the front court rotation.

Unless this mysterious player to be named later is a guard.

Just my opinion, but looks like we could use another big guy rather than a guard.

1’s and 2’s
Kedren Johnson
Ricky Tarrant
Crawford

3’s
Trashon Burrell
KJ Lawson

4’s and/or 5’s
Austin Nichols
Shaq Goodwin
D Lawson

(05-05-2015 02:52 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(05-05-2015 02:15 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(05-05-2015 09:19 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(05-04-2015 06:32 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  Pastner wants to settle on a shorter, eight man rotation....

Kedren Johnson
Ricky Tarrant
Trashon Burrell
Austin Nichols
Shaq Goodwin

that's four seniors and one junior....

guess at other 3...

D Lawson
KJ Lawson
Player to be signed later

So Markel is getting mothballed?

Ugh.

He will be the one that the sheep here will say "didn't work on his shot enough during the summer"'or "didn't work on his ball handling" or " has too many people in his ear" when he decides to transfer after next season.

He "only" transferred to (fill in the name of a school here), so what does that tell you?

Attitude problem....a cancer. Good riddance. Pastner already someone better lined up to take his place.

(05-05-2015 03:01 PM)dan o Wrote:  

(05-05-2015 09:19 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(05-04-2015 06:32 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  Pastner wants to settle on a shorter, eight man rotation....

Kedren Johnson
Ricky Tarrant
Trashon Burrell
Austin Nichols
Shaq Goodwin

that's four seniors and one junior....

guess at other 3...

D Lawson
KJ Lawson
Player to be signed later

So Markel is getting mothballed?

Ugh.

If you break it down by position rather than class, Crawford appears as an integral part of the front court rotation.

Unless this mysterious player to be named later is a guard.

Just my opinion, but looks like we could use another big guy rather than a guard.

1’s and 2’s
Kedren Johnson
Ricky Tarrant
Crawford

3’s
Trashon Burrell
KJ Lawson

4’s and/or 5’s
Austin Nichols
Shaq Goodwin
D Lawson

I think Markel could develop into a really good 2 guard with his size, in-your-face defense, ball handling, and not being afraid to attack the rim.

BTW you forgot Avery. Last season he led the team in minutes and 3pt percentage. No doubt we’ll need him to help with the packed in defenses we will surely face.

(05-05-2015 03:21 PM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  

(05-05-2015 03:01 PM)dan o Wrote:  

(05-05-2015 09:19 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(05-04-2015 06:32 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  Pastner wants to settle on a shorter, eight man rotation....

Kedren Johnson
Ricky Tarrant
Trashon Burrell
Austin Nichols
Shaq Goodwin

that's four seniors and one junior....

guess at other 3...

D Lawson
KJ Lawson
Player to be signed later

So Markel is getting mothballed?

Ugh.

If you break it down by position rather than class, Crawford appears as an integral part of the front court rotation.

Unless this mysterious player to be named later is a guard.

Just my opinion, but looks like we could use another big guy rather than a guard.

1’s and 2’s
Kedren Johnson
Ricky Tarrant
Crawford

3’s
Trashon Burrell
KJ Lawson

4’s and/or 5’s
Austin Nichols
Shaq Goodwin
D Lawson

I think Markel could develop into a really good 2 guard with his size, in-your-face defense, ball handling, and not being afraid to attack the rim.

BTW you forgot Avery. Last season he led the team in minutes and 3pt percentage. No doubt we’ll need him to help with the packed in defenses we will surely face.

So Pastner is really talking out of his ass when he says he will use an 8 man rotation?

Either that, or he's just going to consciously leave players who can contribute on the bench.

(05-05-2015 01:50 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(05-05-2015 09:17 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(05-04-2015 05:12 PM)holyterror Wrote:  Woodsons game deteriorated when we started needing (using) him for more than a few minutes per night.

Memphis with Woodson:

10-7 when Avery played 25+ mpg.

8-7 when he played less than 25 mins.

As for game "deterioration" Woodson shot 41.8% from three (38-91) in games in which he played MORE than 30 mins and shot 32.3% (23-71) in games he played fewer than 30 mins.

I think if the criticism is that he is one dimensional, I can see that. However, he is a shooter and the numbers seem to show that the more he played the better he shot.

Lol...That's funny

The reason he shot better when he got more minutes is due to Pastner's "You make shots you play more substitution pattern". Therefore the making of the shots is what got him the extra minutes. Missing of the shots got him put on the bench.

I really hope going 0-1 from the field isn't what gets him to the bench.

What it seems to indicate to me is that Avery isn't an "instant offense" guy in that he can come in and drain a couple threes in situational minutes--he's more of a get acclimated and pick spots kinda guy.

That doesn't bode well if JP see's Woodson's role this year as a "zone buster."

(05-05-2015 03:21 PM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  

(05-05-2015 03:01 PM)dan o Wrote:  

(05-05-2015 09:19 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(05-04-2015 06:32 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  Pastner wants to settle on a shorter, eight man rotation....

Kedren Johnson
Ricky Tarrant
Trashon Burrell
Austin Nichols
Shaq Goodwin

that's four seniors and one junior....

guess at other 3...

D Lawson
KJ Lawson
Player to be signed later

So Markel is getting mothballed?

Ugh.

If you break it down by position rather than class, Crawford appears as an integral part of the front court rotation.

Unless this mysterious player to be named later is a guard.

Just my opinion, but looks like we could use another big guy rather than a guard.

1’s and 2’s
Kedren Johnson
Ricky Tarrant
Crawford

3’s
Trashon Burrell
KJ Lawson

4’s and/or 5’s
Austin Nichols
Shaq Goodwin
D Lawson

I think Markel could develop into a really good 2 guard with his size, in-your-face defense, ball handling, and not being afraid to attack the rim.

BTW you forgot Avery. Last season he led the team in minutes and 3pt percentage. No doubt we’ll need him to help with the packed in defenses we will surely face.

I left out woodson on purpose.

(05-04-2015 04:34 PM)lemmingleap Wrote:  ...rather see him than Avery Woodson out there jacking 3s and nothing else.

Ok, then.