How the hell does UAB recruit under these circumstances?

And who are they going to get as an AD? Hey - look - you might start off as an AD in CUSA and end up as an AD in the Atlantic Sun....Meh...Bryant Bank will probably just appoint some clown.

I spent the entire 1980s, 90s, and early 2000s being jealous of what UAB was able to do.... Man oh man did it fall apart... I feel for them.

Well, for AD we are gonna get one of these guys. http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2015/...ee_fi.html

(04-30-2015 11:27 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(04-30-2015 10:51 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(04-30-2015 10:47 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(04-30-2015 10:30 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(04-30-2015 10:28 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  Didn't the Belt supposedly make a run at UAB & USM after C-USA lost the big group of teams?

I know we went after USM...don't know about UAB.

If USM would ever make the change to the Belt they'd catch holy hell for doing so.....at least under current conditions.

It could easily trigger realigning into geographically sensible leagues (and a new name for the Belt) but I've seen nothing that makes me think USM would have the vision to lead that.

Yeah, I'd think it would take several years of the Belt having established itself as an unqeustionable superior to C-USA in football before a program like USM's would even consider it. I honestly believe that a realigning into georgraphically sensible leagues (and sensible rivalries) will eventually come about, likely tirggered by economic realities, but don't have a clue when that might be.

It never hurts to ask...

(04-30-2015 01:33 PM)JTApps1 Wrote:  

(04-30-2015 11:27 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(04-30-2015 10:51 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(04-30-2015 10:47 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(04-30-2015 10:30 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  I know we went after USM...don't know about UAB.

If USM would ever make the change to the Belt they'd catch holy hell for doing so.....at least under current conditions.

It could easily trigger realigning into geographically sensible leagues (and a new name for the Belt) but I've seen nothing that makes me think USM would have the vision to lead that.

Yeah, I'd think it would take several years of the Belt having established itself as an unqeustionable superior to C-USA in football before a program like USM's would even consider it. I honestly believe that a realigning into georgraphically sensible leagues (and sensible rivalries) will eventually come about, likely tirggered by economic realities, but don't have a clue when that might be.

It never hurts to ask...

Indeed. What's the worst that can happen, a simple no way like the women always say?

Old Dominion s AD said over the weekend that he feels CUSA will just stay at 13 if UAB does not reinstate football and is expelled from the league.

(04-30-2015 10:28 AM)chrisattsu Wrote:  

(04-29-2015 10:13 PM)Irish Rowdy Wrote:  A lot of UTSA fans want Louisiana in CUSA, and I am one of them.

I love playing TXST, and i would enjoy have y'all in CUSA, but i like Texas State's conference affiliation being seen as a step down from UTSA. We also might not have room for another team from the great State of Texas.

i was driving past ULL last year when y'all played Little Rock in baseball, and had a spring practice the same day. I drove around the campus, and then went to check out your athletics area. I ending up spending the afternoon at a RV tailgate with a great group of guys. The group was lead by a man who looked like Louisiana's Santa Claus, and everyone seemed to know him.


All i know is i was treated much better in Lafayette than i was in Ruston.

(05-04-2015 06:11 PM)Irish Rowdy Wrote:  

(04-30-2015 10:28 AM)chrisattsu Wrote:  

(04-29-2015 10:13 PM)Irish Rowdy Wrote:  A lot of UTSA fans want Louisiana in CUSA, and I am one of them.

I love playing TXST, and i would enjoy have y'all in CUSA, but i like Texas State's conference affiliation being seen as a step down from UTSA. We also might not have room for another team from the great State of Texas.

Doesn't matter what conference we're in, TX ST is NEVER a "step down" from NutsaCK . . . .

(05-04-2015 01:01 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  Old Dominion s AD said over the weekend that he feels CUSA will just stay at 13 if UAB does not reinstate football and is expelled from the league.

This just a few days after he championed the Liberty and JMU cause. My guess is that he's starting to see those two doesn't have the votes, and it might be best just to stand pat considering the other options don't scream Geographic rival for ODU and help his travel budget.

(05-04-2015 06:32 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(05-04-2015 06:11 PM)Irish Rowdy Wrote:  

(04-30-2015 10:28 AM)chrisattsu Wrote:  

(04-29-2015 10:13 PM)Irish Rowdy Wrote:  A lot of UTSA fans want Louisiana in CUSA, and I am one of them.

I love playing TXST, and i would enjoy have y'all in CUSA, but i like Texas State's conference affiliation being seen as a step down from UTSA. We also might not have room for another team from the great State of Texas.

Doesn't matter what conference we're in, TX ST is NEVER a "step down" from NutsaCK . . . .

last time we played in football UTSA won
last time we played in basketball UTSA won
last time we played in baseball UTSA won

(05-04-2015 06:47 PM)Irish Rowdy Wrote:  

(05-04-2015 06:32 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(05-04-2015 06:11 PM)Irish Rowdy Wrote:  

(04-30-2015 10:28 AM)chrisattsu Wrote:  

(04-29-2015 10:13 PM)Irish Rowdy Wrote:  A lot of UTSA fans want Louisiana in CUSA, and I am one of them.

I love playing TXST, and i would enjoy have y'all in CUSA, but i like Texas State's conference affiliation being seen as a step down from UTSA. We also might not have room for another team from the great State of Texas.

Doesn't matter what conference we're in, TX ST is NEVER a "step down" from NutsaCK . . . .

last time we played in football UTSA won
last time we played in basketball UTSA won
last time we played in baseball UTSA won

AND We're STILL the BETTER school . . . .

(05-04-2015 06:39 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(05-04-2015 01:01 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  Old Dominion s AD said over the weekend that he feels CUSA will just stay at 13 if UAB does not reinstate football and is expelled from the league.

This just a few days after he championed the Liberty and JMU cause. My guess is that he's starting to see those two doesn't have the votes, and it might be best just to stand pat considering the other options don't scream Geographic rival for ODU and help his travel budget.

Sounds small time, who at this level would think like that.

(05-04-2015 06:39 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(05-04-2015 01:01 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  Old Dominion s AD said over the weekend that he feels CUSA will just stay at 13 if UAB does not reinstate football and is expelled from the league.

This just a few days after he championed the Liberty and JMU cause. My guess is that he's starting to see those two doesn't have the votes, and it might be best just to stand pat considering the other options don't scream Geographic rival for ODU and help his travel budget.

The Chief of the Grammar Police needs to turn in his badge.

(05-04-2015 06:59 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(05-04-2015 06:39 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(05-04-2015 01:01 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  Old Dominion s AD said over the weekend that he feels CUSA will just stay at 13 if UAB does not reinstate football and is expelled from the league.

This just a few days after he championed the Liberty and JMU cause. My guess is that he's starting to see those two doesn't have the votes, and it might be best just to stand pat considering the other options don't scream Geographic rival for ODU and help his travel budget.

Sounds small time, who at this level would think like that.

Crying about the cost of travel in the conference you just accepted membership in will ALWAYS be "small time."

(04-29-2015 07:30 PM)sidslidkid Wrote:  I'm not all that excited about the idea of adding UAB (if they would even accept). Football is king and the main thing they are going to bring to the Belt is a lot of message board chatter about how/when is UAB going to bring back football. I think there is decent chance that if they ever get football back up and running that C-USA would bring them back into the fold since they were a founding member. Sure they'd add a strong basketball program (by SBC standards), but that by no means is going to make us anything more than a 1 bid conference. And if I'm being honest, adding them only weakens Ga Southern's chances of going to the NCAA tourney (which is really all I care about in basketball). The fact that they are a bus ride away from most of the conference makes them a good add for olympic sports, but I also think that over time their other sports/recruiting could decline a little without the exposure that a football team brings to a school (this may be especially true for a school in the southeast).

This is kind of a sensitive topic for me. UTA dropped it in 1985 but the fearmongering never actually achieved what was said. UTA and UNT each had similar enrollment numbers, despite some who said the enrollment would decline without football. There were a couple
other claims, but another wasthe one you just made. UTA went from one of the worst programs in the Southland to the best, winning a few commish cups when it was instituted. There is no link in any case study verifying your claim, dropping football means a decrease in output of other sports. It was the opposite for UTA. In fact, UAB's basketball program has dropped in prominence since the advent of football.

(05-04-2015 07:46 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  

(04-29-2015 07:30 PM)sidslidkid Wrote:  I'm not all that excited about the idea of adding UAB (if they would even accept). Football is king and the main thing they are going to bring to the Belt is a lot of message board chatter about how/when is UAB going to bring back football. I think there is decent chance that if they ever get football back up and running that C-USA would bring them back into the fold since they were a founding member. Sure they'd add a strong basketball program (by SBC standards), but that by no means is going to make us anything more than a 1 bid conference. And if I'm being honest, adding them only weakens Ga Southern's chances of going to the NCAA tourney (which is really all I care about in basketball). The fact that they are a bus ride away from most of the conference makes them a good add for olympic sports, but I also think that over time their other sports/recruiting could decline a little without the exposure that a football team brings to a school (this may be especially true for a school in the southeast).

This is kind of a sensitive topic for me. UTA dropped it in 1985 but the fearmongering never actually achieved what was said. UTA and UNT each had similar enrollment numbers, despite some who said the enrollment would decline without football. There were a couple
other claims, but another wasthe one you just made. UTA went from one of the worst programs in the Southland to the best, winning a few commish cups when it was instituted. There is no link in any case study verifying your claim, dropping football means a decrease in output of other sports. It was the opposite for UTA. In fact, UAB's basketball program has dropped in prominence since the advent of football.

I'd think funneling funds formerly devoted to football into basketball would mean a significant boost for the latter........better facilities and better coaches typically bring in better recruits.

(05-04-2015 07:15 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(05-04-2015 06:59 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(05-04-2015 06:39 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(05-04-2015 01:01 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  Old Dominion s AD said over the weekend that he feels CUSA will just stay at 13 if UAB does not reinstate football and is expelled from the league.

This just a few days after he championed the Liberty and JMU cause. My guess is that he's starting to see those two doesn't have the votes, and it might be best just to stand pat considering the other options don't scream Geographic rival for ODU and help his travel budget.

Sounds small time, who at this level would think like that.

Crying about the cost of travel in the conference you just accepted membership in will ALWAYS be "small time."

Big difference in crying and acting in the best interest of your university. That's how presidents think, critically.

(05-04-2015 08:57 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(05-04-2015 07:15 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(05-04-2015 06:59 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(05-04-2015 06:39 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(05-04-2015 01:01 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  Old Dominion s AD said over the weekend that he feels CUSA will just stay at 13 if UAB does not reinstate football and is expelled from the league.

This just a few days after he championed the Liberty and JMU cause. My guess is that he's starting to see those two doesn't have the votes, and it might be best just to stand pat considering the other options don't scream Geographic rival for ODU and help his travel budget.

Sounds small time, who at this level would think like that.

Crying about the cost of travel in the conference you just accepted membership in will ALWAYS be "small time."

Big difference in crying and acting in the best interest of your university. That's how presidents think, critically.

Huh . . .

Your President approved the move to the Belt knowing where every member school is.

Your President knew the Belt didn't have Divisons to defray travel costs.

Your President knew that the nearest Belt school to you was roughly 325 miles away.

And your President joined anyway . . .

Maybe YOUR President isn't that Bright . . . . Critically thinking I mean . . . .

Yeah you're probably smarter than the old one and new one, I've been impressed for sure.

We knew the SBC was our ticket out of a sinking ship conference. We were told the goal would be to get to 12. We knew we would have a vote on who that will be. Your president (one that I know is smarter than I) that voted us in had to know we would vote for that 12th member to be in the east. You can clamor for NMSU everyday, but until an eastern member is added along with them or we lose members they aren't a favorable option by the decision makers even when compared to doing nothing.

(05-04-2015 09:27 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Yeah you're probably smarter than the old one and new one, I've been impressed for sure.

We knew the SBC was our ticket out of a sinking ship conference. We were told the goal would be to get to 12. We knew we would have a vote on who that will be. Your president (one that I know is smarter than I) that voted us in had to know we would vote for that 12th member to be in the east. You can clamor for NMSU everyday, but until an eastern member is added along with them or we lose members they aren't a favorable option by the decision makers even when compared to doing nothing.

That's a totally different discussion . . . And IF you've read my past posts, then you know I'd like at least 12, for a CG and divisions . . . Which helps ALL members . . .

I don't even have a problem with a member being added in the east near App . . . That addition does not have to preclude/negate adding a certain FBS program all sports in Las Cruces (they already play FB in the Belt, and in point of fact were a full time member before y'all ever were). . . .

But until we get to at least 12, and divisions, your fan bases' "wringing your hands" over travel costs, some actually claiming it's "bleeding schools dry" IS small time.

IF the cost of travel in this conference is in point of fact "Driving all of Apps. Decisions," then perhaps you made a mistake when you left your previous conference.