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RE: Josh is a PG away from saving his rear...
COULD IT BE ?
Alex Kline @TheRecruitScoop · 6m6 minutes ago
Fairfield guard Doug Chappell is transferring, per his father.
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03-30-2015 11:44 AM |
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RE: Josh is a PG away from saving his rear...
(03-28-2015 08:55 AM)macgar32 Wrote: (03-27-2015 03:20 PM)Stammers Wrote: (03-27-2015 03:17 PM)jason80 Wrote: He had four great guards and did nothing with them so what makes u think he would be successful with another one. We prob had the best backcourt in America with Joe, Chris, Dixon and Geron. I mean that was a high level backcourt and we still couldn't win. So I don't think one point guard at this point will change anything. It would have to be a grad transfer or something and there are no difference makers out there at this stage. Only hope is that Kedren discovers he can't sing and focuses on basketball where he could make a living playing overseas or u can have Markel play some point but not really his position. Maybe KJ could run some point I dunno if he handles good enough to play point in college though. I don't think there is much hope for the pg spot or for Josh. U can't lose so many players and expect to be successful. I still don't understand why pookie was just basically benched the second half of the season. It makes no sense but neither does a lot if things he does.
Say what you like about defense, but if JJ and Geron match their 2013 shooting totals, we would have won at least 2-3 more games, and would have had a much better seed in the tournament, and probably make the Sweet 16.
Not only would making more shots have lead to more points, but it would have opened things up big time for the rest of the offense. One other thing that almost never gets mentioned is Pellom being injured. He was a very important and needed piece of our front line.
While what you say is true memphis offense was better in 2014 (52) than in 2013 (96). The defense regressed greatly in 2014
With the new rules we should have been even better. We had 3 guards that could get to the rim; 3 guards that shot the 3 ball very well, and another in Geron who shot 35% the year before.
It was demoralizing seeing defenses collapse on us knowing that we couldn't do anything to punish them. We should have shot 50% more threes and clobbered teams by scoring a bunch of points.
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RE: Josh is a PG away from saving his rear...
(03-27-2015 03:27 PM)poppaslaw Wrote: (03-27-2015 03:25 PM)steves Wrote: If KJ is a 2 ... never mind ...
He's another Nick King.
KJ will be better than King I never saw any fire in King but KJ has a chip on his shoulder to prove he isnt the worst of tge lawson boys. And normally when they play KJ plays better than Detric
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03-30-2015 12:30 PM |
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RE: Josh is a PG away from saving his rear...
(03-30-2015 11:44 AM)80sTiger Wrote: COULD IT BE ?
Alex Kline @TheRecruitScoop · 6m6 minutes ago
Fairfield guard Doug Chappell is transferring, per his father.
That kid played 32 total minutes all year and shot 15% from the floor. Is he Tiger good?
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03-30-2015 12:37 PM |
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RE: Josh is a PG away from saving his rear...
(03-30-2015 12:37 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote: (03-30-2015 11:44 AM)80sTiger Wrote: COULD IT BE ?
Alex Kline @TheRecruitScoop · 6m6 minutes ago
Fairfield guard Doug Chappell is transferring, per his father.
That kid played 32 total minutes all year and shot 15% from the floor. Is he Tiger good?
WTF does Tiger good mean these days? D'Marnier Cunningham?
The only thing left is scrub scraps and flyer JUCOs.
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03-30-2015 01:44 PM |
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RE: Josh is a PG away from saving his rear...
(03-27-2015 02:45 PM)TigerBo Wrote: IMHO... And in a nutshell, screwing up the PG position basically has him and the program where we're at today. If he can somehow fix that AND get his guys to defend, things could get better in a hurry as other pcs are in place, for next year anyway.
And my apologies to you KJ lovers out there, but if he doesn't find a quality PG with some quicks that can av more than 2.7 assists per and if overall team defense and transition game don't improve, it's just going be deja vu all over again.
However it plays out, I just want my Tigers back, don't really care who the coach is.
JJ on this team and we make probably make the tourney
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03-30-2015 01:45 PM |
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RE: Josh is a PG away from saving his rear...
(03-27-2015 02:45 PM)TigerBo Wrote: IMHO... And in a nutshell, screwing up the PG position basically has him and the program where we're at today. If he can somehow fix that AND get his guys to defend, things could get better in a hurry as other pcs are in place, for next year anyway.
And my apologies to you KJ lovers out there, but if he doesn't find a quality PG with some quicks that can av more than 2.7 assists per and if overall team defense and transition game don't improve, it's just going be deja vu all over again.
However it plays out, I just want my Tigers back, don't really care who the coach is.
(03-27-2015 02:46 PM)poppaslaw Wrote: From where?
He had Joe Jackson for 4 years and the team still played ugly basketball. Pastner is an AAU coach. He belongs on someone's bench recruiting high school players and running the layup drill.
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03-30-2015 01:57 PM |
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RE: Josh is a PG away from saving his rear...
Dominic Magee was a good-sized 6'3" point guard who was offered by quite a lot of good programs - so it is not a question of only getting talent not wanted by other good programs. I am at a loss how players such as Magee do not seem to develop or at least "fit in" under Pastner's system.
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RE: Josh is a PG away from saving his rear...
(03-30-2015 03:12 PM)presskh Wrote: Dominic Magee was a good-sized 6'3" point guard who was offered by quite a lot of good programs - so it is not a question of only getting talent not wanted by other good programs. I am at a loss how players such as Magee do not seem to develop or at least "fit in" under Pastner's system.
Bingo! Magee was an ESPN top 50 player and was offered by a ton of big time programs. His reason for leaving "home sickness" is complete BS b/c he just signed at Grand Canyon and Dan Majerle in Phoenix. Thats a longer drive from New Orleans than Memphis.
Pastner is not a head coach. He is a recruiter who excels at schmoozing.
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03-31-2015 08:11 AM |
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RE: Josh is a PG away from saving his rear...
The juco players all have attitudes of gratitude. They know that winning isn't a birthright and they're true student athletes.
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03-31-2015 08:39 AM |
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RE: Josh is a PG away from saving his rear...
(03-31-2015 08:39 AM)MemphisTiger15 Wrote: The juco players all have attitudes of gratitude. They know that winning isn't a birthright and they're true student athletes.
Bob Huggins built a powerhouse in Cincy using primarily JUCO's. So, it can be done. Then again, Huggins can actually coach basketball and command respect.
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RE: Josh is a PG away from saving his rear...
A PG away?
He just offered PG from Mitchell HS in Memphis...and lost out to Louisiana Tech.
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03-31-2015 09:01 AM |
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RE: Josh is a PG away from saving his rear...
(03-31-2015 09:01 AM)HoopDreams Wrote: A PG away?
He just offered PG from Mitchell HS in Memphis...and lost out to Louisiana Tech.
"no slippage"
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RE: Josh is a PG away from saving his rear...
(03-30-2015 03:12 PM)presskh Wrote: Dominic Magee was a good-sized 6'3" point guard who was offered by quite a lot of good programs - so it is not a question of only getting talent not wanted by other good programs. I am at a loss how players such as Magee do not seem to develop or at least "fit in" under Pastner's system.
If Dominic was a high level player he would not have transferred to GCU. Much of Pastner's problem is very poor talent evaluation. He goes by rankings as much as fans. Many of our 'highly rated ' players DID NOT have real high level offers.
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03-31-2015 09:09 AM |
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RE: Josh is a PG away from saving his rear...
(03-31-2015 09:00 AM)paulnatlanta Wrote: (03-31-2015 08:39 AM)MemphisTiger15 Wrote: The juco players all have attitudes of gratitude. They know that winning isn't a birthright and they're true student athletes.
Bob Huggins built a powerhouse in Cincy using primarily JUCO's. So, it can be done. Then again, Huggins can actually coach basketball and command respect.
But mostly, he and Cincy were unconcerned with their academic short comings.
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RE: Josh is a PG away from saving his rear...
(03-31-2015 09:01 AM)HoopDreams Wrote: A PG away?
He just offered PG from Mitchell HS in Memphis...and lost out to Louisiana Tech.
LMAO
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RE: Josh is a PG away from saving his rear...
(03-31-2015 09:09 AM)dan o Wrote: (03-31-2015 09:00 AM)paulnatlanta Wrote: (03-31-2015 08:39 AM)MemphisTiger15 Wrote: The juco players all have attitudes of gratitude. They know that winning isn't a birthright and they're true student athletes.
Bob Huggins built a powerhouse in Cincy using primarily JUCO's. So, it can be done. Then again, Huggins can actually coach basketball and command respect.
But mostly, he and Cincy were unconcerned with their academic short comings.
Oh common. Lets not kid ourselves. Memphis is no academic powerhouse. I grew up in the city and we used to call it Tiger High.
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RE: Josh is a PG away from saving his rear...
(03-31-2015 09:09 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote: (03-30-2015 03:12 PM)presskh Wrote: Dominic Magee was a good-sized 6'3" point guard who was offered by quite a lot of good programs - so it is not a question of only getting talent not wanted by other good programs. I am at a loss how players such as Magee do not seem to develop or at least "fit in" under Pastner's system.
If Dominic was a high level player he would not have transferred to GCU. Much of Pastner's problem is very poor talent evaluation. He goes by rankings as much as fans. Many of our 'highly rated ' players DID NOT have real high level offers.
McGee wasn't a college PG. Where does everyone get this notion?
If he had the skills to play PG, he probably wouldn't have left before this season.
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RE: Josh is a PG away from saving his rear...
(03-31-2015 09:12 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote: (03-31-2015 09:09 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote: (03-30-2015 03:12 PM)presskh Wrote: Dominic Magee was a good-sized 6'3" point guard who was offered by quite a lot of good programs - so it is not a question of only getting talent not wanted by other good programs. I am at a loss how players such as Magee do not seem to develop or at least "fit in" under Pastner's system.
If Dominic was a high level player he would not have transferred to GCU. Much of Pastner's problem is very poor talent evaluation. He goes by rankings as much as fans. Many of our 'highly rated ' players DID NOT have real high level offers.
McGee wasn't a college PG. Where does everyone get this notion?
If he had the skills to play PG, he probably wouldn't have left before this season.
Pastner should have known this before he offered him, other coaches did. Everyone associated with the program knew this as soon as he started playing against our players ( players that could not even make the NIT ).
Pastner's recruiting prowess is a mirage.
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03-31-2015 09:17 AM |
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RE: Josh is a PG away from saving his rear...
(03-31-2015 09:17 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote: (03-31-2015 09:12 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote: (03-31-2015 09:09 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote: (03-30-2015 03:12 PM)presskh Wrote: Dominic Magee was a good-sized 6'3" point guard who was offered by quite a lot of good programs - so it is not a question of only getting talent not wanted by other good programs. I am at a loss how players such as Magee do not seem to develop or at least "fit in" under Pastner's system.
If Dominic was a high level player he would not have transferred to GCU. Much of Pastner's problem is very poor talent evaluation. He goes by rankings as much as fans. Many of our 'highly rated ' players DID NOT have real high level offers.
McGee wasn't a college PG. Where does everyone get this notion?
If he had the skills to play PG, he probably wouldn't have left before this season.
Pastner should have known this before he offered him, other coaches did. Everyone associated with the program knew this as soon as he started playing against our players ( players that could not even make the NIT ).
Pastner's recruiting prowess is a mirage.
It was always a head scratcher of a signing, after we brought in Woodson and Burrell.
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