(12-20-2014 03:35 PM)cleburneslim Wrote:  Possibly i guess well never know.
I believe troy st. Wont play us simply because it hurts like hell to lose one out ten. As im sure all trojan nation can attest to this year.

i really believe it would be worth resurrecting and legion field is available nearly every weekend during football season and able to hold a large crowd. At least until they tear it down.

I don't think you'll see a game between the two ball clubs until Troy is winning 9 and 10 games a season. At that point we'd be confident that JSU will simply be a tuneup game.

That one out of ten that we lost to ACU this year certainly stung. If we get an FCS team to replace UAB this season, we'll be 4-8 by default even if we don't improve at all. We're just not going to lose to an FCS team under this staff's first go around. We're not going to schedule a NDSU or something rediculous like that. Look for a bottom feeder FCS team ranked in the 100's.

(12-20-2014 12:53 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  

(12-20-2014 11:58 AM)cleburneslim Wrote:  Its not like troy st. Will write an appropriate check. Home and home comes out equal and everyone wins. Coming to troy st. To play for nada is entirely one sided.

FBS schools don't play at FCS schools...I guess that is one-sided.

I don't mean to be argumentative but isn't there a rule that states no FBS team will play at a lower division's stadium? I thought I heard that earlier this year.

(12-20-2014 06:11 PM)sarkelcpa Wrote:  

(12-20-2014 12:53 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  

(12-20-2014 11:58 AM)cleburneslim Wrote:  Its not like troy st. Will write an appropriate check. Home and home comes out equal and everyone wins. Coming to troy st. To play for nada is entirely one sided.

FBS schools don't play at FCS schools...I guess that is one-sided.

I don't mean to be argumentative but isn't there a rule that states no FBS team will play at a lower division's stadium? I thought I heard that earlier this year.

Its an SBC rule, not an NCAA rule. Army played at Yale earlier this year, though that was a more historical thing.

Its been established already that an nuetral site would be necessary.

(12-20-2014 07:47 PM)cleburneslim Wrote:  Its been established already that an nuetral site would be necessary.

Are you done hijacking this thread?

(12-19-2014 08:47 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  

(09-24-2014 06:23 AM)cleburneslim Wrote:  Jax st. Ranked #8
picked to win OVC
made it to the quarterfinals last year
averages 18,000 in attendance ( actual attendance )
Already has one of the top stadiums in the fcs

I do like that pressbox though...

I believe it was you who resurrected this conversation.

If it was not something you wished to talk about then why did you stray from the current conversation to bring it back up again.

If the Sun Belt is looking for a solid 12th member with nothing but upside, look no further than EKU. The renovations and expansions to facilities are ongoing, a recent student fee increase was just passed last week, and EKU is on track to win its 3rd OVC Commissioner's Cup in 4 years -- which is the best indicator of overall health of all programs within an athletic department.

But as far as basketball is concerned, EKU stacks up with current SBC as follows:

D1 Basketball RPI


70 Georgia St.

124 Ga. Southern

129 La.-Monroe

147 La.-Lafayette

157 EKU

175 Texas-Arlington

240 Texas St.

248 Appalachian St.

267 UALR

275 Arkansas St.

276 South Ala.

313 Troy


BPI


78 Georgia St.

140 EKU

148 Ga. Southern

149 La.-Lafayette

178 Texas-Arlington

192 La.-Monroe

226 Texas St.

243 UALR

290 Arkansas St.

292 Appalachian St.

298 South Ala.

304 Troy

While I am certainly biased as an EKU fan, I also believe there is no better option out there for an East-West division than adding Eastern Kentucky.

Adding EKU would be fine with me

(09-23-2014 10:29 AM)ButlerGSU Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 09:59 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  EKU and Missouri state both making significant progress.

If I'm Idaho...that's probably not the news I want to hear with league renewal coming up for debate in two years.

Can Idaho seriously be voted out? Has a team ever been voted out of a conference before?

I believe Temple got booted from the Big East back in the day.

(03-09-2015 03:14 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(09-23-2014 10:29 AM)ButlerGSU Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 09:59 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  EKU and Missouri state both making significant progress.

If I'm Idaho...that's probably not the news I want to hear with league renewal coming up for debate in two years.

Can Idaho seriously be voted out? Has a team ever been voted out of a conference before?

I believe Temple got booted from the Big East back in the day.

Either UNO or Denver got the boot from Sun Belt too.

UNO and Denver left before the 15 sport mandate reached full force (a mandate that seems to now have no teeth since UALR dropped tennis)
The Sun Belt was poised to expel UTPA but they withdrew before the vote.

Idaho and NMSU don't have to be "kicked out". They are not equity members and have no promise beyond 2017. A contract renewal has to be approved by the conference by a simple majority. If a majority don't vote in favor of renewal, contract expires in 2017. It requires an affirmative action by the members to retain them unlike equity members who are in unless 75% of the membership takes action to expel.

(03-09-2015 04:10 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  UNO and Denver left before the 15 sport mandate reached full force (a mandate that seems to now have no teeth since UALR dropped tennis)
The Sun Belt was poised to expel UTPA but they withdrew before the vote.

Idaho and NMSU don't have to be "kicked out". They are not equity members and have no promise beyond 2017. A contract renewal has to be approved by the conference by a simple majority. If a majority don't vote in favor of renewal, contract expires in 2017. It requires an affirmative action by the members to retain them unlike equity members who are in unless 75% of the membership takes action to expel.

UTA sponsors 14 sports

(03-09-2015 04:10 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  UNO and Denver left before the 15 sport mandate reached full force (a mandate that seems to now have no teeth since UALR dropped tennis)
The Sun Belt was poised to expel UTPA but they withdrew before the vote.

Idaho and NMSU don't have to be "kicked out". They are not equity members and have no promise beyond 2017. A contract renewal has to be approved by the conference by a simple majority. If a majority don't vote in favor of renewal, contract expires in 2017. It requires an affirmative action by the members to retain them unlike equity members who are in unless 75% of the membership takes action to expel.

Is that two individual votes, or just one package deal? Could one school be reaffirmed and the other not?

Doubt it is a package deal.

Don't know what decision on NMSU will be but from everything I hear and read Idaho will be shown the door after 2017.

(03-09-2015 05:54 PM)NuMexAg Wrote:  

(03-09-2015 04:10 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  UNO and Denver left before the 15 sport mandate reached full force (a mandate that seems to now have no teeth since UALR dropped tennis)
The Sun Belt was poised to expel UTPA but they withdrew before the vote.

Idaho and NMSU don't have to be "kicked out". They are not equity members and have no promise beyond 2017. A contract renewal has to be approved by the conference by a simple majority. If a majority don't vote in favor of renewal, contract expires in 2017. It requires an affirmative action by the members to retain them unlike equity members who are in unless 75% of the membership takes action to expel.

Is that two individual votes, or just one package deal? Could one school be reaffirmed and the other not?

Each has their own contract.

(03-09-2015 05:54 PM)NuMexAg Wrote:  

(03-09-2015 04:10 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  UNO and Denver left before the 15 sport mandate reached full force (a mandate that seems to now have no teeth since UALR dropped tennis)
The Sun Belt was poised to expel UTPA but they withdrew before the vote.

Idaho and NMSU don't have to be "kicked out". They are not equity members and have no promise beyond 2017. A contract renewal has to be approved by the conference by a simple majority. If a majority don't vote in favor of renewal, contract expires in 2017. It requires an affirmative action by the members to retain them unlike equity members who are in unless 75% of the membership takes action to expel.

Is that two individual votes, or just one package deal? Could one school be reaffirmed and the other not?

No you guys have a chance

(09-22-2014 11:38 AM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  It's the perfect scenario:

Eastern teams get EKU (tighter footprint), Western teams get Missouri State and loses Idaho (solid BBall, tighter footprint). NMSU all sports.

Leaves a 12 football, 13 all sports split out, and some improved B-Ball... I like it.

(03-10-2015 10:15 AM)runamuck Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 11:38 AM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  It's the perfect scenario:

Eastern teams get EKU (tighter footprint), Western teams get Missouri State and loses Idaho (solid BBall, tighter footprint). NMSU all sports.

Leaves a 12 football, 13 all sports split out, and some improved B-Ball... I like it.

In this scenario I could see adding uab to even out the numbers and improve the conference

(03-10-2015 10:15 AM)runamuck Wrote:  It's the perfect scenario:

Eastern teams get EKU (tighter footprint), Western teams get Missouri State and loses Idaho (solid BBall, tighter footprint). NMSU all sports.

Leaves a 12 football, 13 all sports split out, and some improved B-Ball... I like it.

Wait... if we are at 11 now... How does that get to 13? We just added EKU, Missouri State, and NMSU all sports. That's 3 BBall teams.

that would be the 12/14 situation, without a need for UAB to "make divisions" in Olympics.