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(03-05-2015 09:30 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 09:25 PM)Shrack Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 09:17 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 09:13 PM)blazinrunner Wrote:  We beat the conference champion by 20 and lost to the worst team in conference. I wonder which team shows up next week.

People only want to focus on the bad things this team has done. No credit is given for the amazing turnaround this team made this season. All they want to talk about is WTF losses, like a team this young isn't supposed to have any.

We were picked 8th or 9th in the conference and will be among the top 4. If you are upset with how this season has gone, you are a fan with ridiculous expectations and probably should find a perfect team to root for.

Has nothing to do with being ridiculous man. It's year 3 of Haase. We're 10 WTF losses in. We had 4 WTF losses last year and weren't young. Are you going to be satisfied with where we are next year if we have another 4 terrible losses and end the season with a 170RPI in complete basketball irrelevancy?

How are people satisfied with that? I don't want to run Haase off, but I hope he gets it together quick. Every time he's gotten momentum at UAB so far he has killed it.

Go through the media guide and find me a season that didn't have a "WTF" loss. They happen. With young teams they happen more. With teams that is not used to playing a new system, they happen. Guess what? When this team are seniors, they will still happen. Even if we dug John Wooden up and let him coach the team.

Like I said, if you want to cheer for a team that doesn't have WTF losses, Big Blue and Calipari is waiting for you.

Mike Davis had a single WTF loss in his final 5 years at UAB according to statsheet.

I caught very little of the game (I hate listening to road games on the radio ), and what I did hear was crappy play. OK, fill me in,,, who was falling down dribbling and who was turning it over ( bad ball handling again by guys who are supposed to be able to dribble??) ?

That's a joke. UT Martin. Several conference tournament games. And that is just off the top of my head.

(03-05-2015 09:36 PM)BlazrDawg Wrote:  I caught very little of the game (I hate listening to road games on the radio ), and what I did hear was crappy play. OK, fill me in,,, who was falling down dribbling and who was turning it over ( bad ball handling again by guys who are supposed to be able to dribble??) ?

We only had 10 turnovers for the entire game. That wasn't the problem.

The problem was they were hitting threes and we weren't.

Damn Chad, why'd you have to hit that girl?

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2015/...u_win.html

What all did Haase say after the game?

(03-05-2015 09:36 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

That's a joke. UT Martin. Several conference tournament games. And that is just off the top of my head.

It's not a joke. Different RPI sites may show between 1 and 3 or whatever, but I'm only seeing any RPI websites that only show UT-Martin as being a WTF 200+ loss (they were actually around 300 RPI).

The only one statsheet shows is the year he got fired. Pretty sure realtimerpi is the same.

Statsheet:

2007-2008
RPI 200+ 7-0

2008-2009
RPI 200+ 7-0

2009-2010
RPI 200+ 10-0

2010-2011
RPI 200+ 9-0

2011-2012
RPI 200+ 7-1

RealtimeRPI shows only UT-Martin

and can't see a couple years because their website si being stupid.

Because a few years ago we considered anything above 100 a bad loss. Now a days we have extended that to 200 and 300 + teams. Our expectations have really sunk the past couple of years..

(03-05-2015 09:56 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  Because a few years ago we considered anything above 100 a bad loss. Now a days we have extended that to 200 and 300 + teams. Our expectations have really sunk the past couple of years..

That is exactly my point. Expectations have really dropped.

(03-05-2015 09:57 PM)Shrack Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 09:56 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  Because a few years ago we considered anything above 100 a bad loss. Now a days we have extended that to 200 and 300 + teams. Our expectations have really sunk the past couple of years..

That is exactly my point. Expectations have really dropped.

You still haven't answered my question. How did Haase kill momentum by losing this game?

FAU played the same defense for 40 minutes. They put man covering our largest post man under the goal. FAU used 4 other defenders to pick up man to man behind the 3 point line. It was not an overplaying man-to-man, but it cut off our open 3 point shots.
When the UAB post man caught the ball near the free throw line, he pivoted 3 or 4 times with a panic look to get rid of ball. All that time he stood uncovered and wide open.
UAB never used the post man to create a double screen situation to create open shots at top of key. I don't remember UAB using the post man to screen for point guard very ofter either. Lee did have a few good looks out front as he moved around himself to get open.
Teams playing Samford when Tilette was coach started running the same defense to cut off 3's and back door layups. I see the same defense a lot in high school.
The defense worked great for FAU and it looked like UAB had no idea what to do. UAB just refused to take what FAU was giving them for the entire 40 minutes.
I watched game on computer.

During the Davis era, a loss to anybody besides Memphis in conference play should've been unacceptable. Our league is as weak as it's ever been & we can't manage to beat the weakest teams. A loss to anybody besides La Tech is unacceptable. La tech, MTSU, ODU, WKU have just walked in & dominated this league. Going for 4 straight postseasons of sitting at home. When we decide to throw the game on Saturday bc we'll still get a top 4 seed. We'll be one game above .500. Wait til we go 1 & done again in CUSA tournament....... in our hometown.

(03-05-2015 09:58 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 09:57 PM)Shrack Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 09:56 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  Because a few years ago we considered anything above 100 a bad loss. Now a days we have extended that to 200 and 300 + teams. Our expectations have really sunk the past couple of years..

That is exactly my point. Expectations have really dropped.

You still haven't answered my question. How did Haase kill momentum by losing this game?

If you don't think a 300 RPI loss is a bit of a momentum killer, I don't know what to tell you. Of course, he has a chance to turn it around and do well in the tournament. Does this singular game actually mean much? Probably not. But losing a bunch of single bad games and it is a momentum killer for the season. We had a real shot to win a conference championship and it fell through. We started out OOC decently well last season and had a huge bust in conference play by dropping 4 200+ WTF losses... almost all in a row. Those are momentum killers.

Go take a look at past threads about Mike Davis. There's some good ones like "Worst Basketball Season" ever over a 110RPI season. The season Mike Davis got fired for has been better statistically than anything in the Haase years so far and people just absolutely ripped the man to shreds in those threads. I just don't see how people are okay with consistently losing to 200 RPI teams, much less a 300 RPI team.

People consistently complained about Mike Davis' offense, but 3 or 4 of his 6 seasons were offensively better than any of the Haase seasons so far (credit to Aaron Johnson I guess?). That's what we're suddenly okay with as a fanbase. And yes, this isn't a Mike Davis thread, but his seasons are the most recent seasons I can compare Haase's to.

Like I've said before, I really want Haase to succeed. It's just that every time things start looking up for his teams he hits major roadblocks. Maybe in year 4 with a more experienced team he will be able to turn it around. And hopefully we play well in the tourney and end up with a NCAA bid.

Texas Southern can always use fans.

Still waiting though. How did Haase lose this game tonight?

Shall we discuss guard play?

4 of 18 from the field.

(03-05-2015 09:17 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 09:13 PM)blazinrunner Wrote:  We beat the conference champion by 20 and lost to the worst team in conference. I wonder which team shows up next week.

People only want to focus on the bad things this team has done. No credit is given for the amazing turnaround this team made this season. All they want to talk about is WTF losses, like a team this young isn't supposed to have any.

We were picked 8th or 9th in the conference and will be among the top 4. If you are upset with how this season has gone, you are a fan with ridiculous expectations and probably should find a perfect team to root for.

The reason this team lost to a 1-15 team is because it's a 150-175 team. Just like the 2012, 2013 and 2014 teams. This team has made great progress to go from Murry-bad to clinching the first round bye for the first time since 2011. Regardless of how the rest of the season unfolds, I believe Haase is building a great program--it's just taking 1-2 years longer than we expect. Two months ago, this team was destined to finish 10-12 games below .500.

These guys have been going at it since Spain, and we have so many key contributors that were in high school last year. It's been a long season for them. Now we have to dig deep and put a run together Uptown.

(03-05-2015 10:19 PM)BlazeNBham Wrote:  Shall we discuss guard play?

Yes it was bad. Norton was a no show. Brown showed up only to shoot badly.

Haase said he wanted them to continue to go inside, but they "got jump shot happy"

(03-05-2015 10:21 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 10:19 PM)BlazeNBham Wrote:  Shall we discuss guard play?

Yes it was bad. Norton was a no show. Brown showed up only to shoot badly.

Haase said he wanted them to continue to go inside, but they "got jump shot happy"

Before the season started, I got the impression that Brown was a slasher from his time at VT.
We've seen very little of that.

(03-05-2015 10:19 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  Texas Southern can always use fans.

Still waiting though. How did Haase lose this game tonight?

I didn't say he specifically lost the game. I said he loses momentum during his seasons so far. He hasn't consistently coached a full season well yet. However, Haase probably did do (or didn't do) something to lose the game tonight. It obviously takes effort to lose to a 1-15 CUSA team since only one other team in the league has managed it. Regardless, I am not a basketball coach and will admit that. I'm just a fan who doesn't like his college bball team to lose to extremely bad teams multiple times in a year. It's not really rocket science to say that there is something the coach is doing wrong when he has 10 WTF losses in 3 years. Call it whatever you want: Inexperience, etc. Who knows. Whatever it is, he has to fix it.

I do really like being told to go root for some other school because I'm upset over losing to the three hundred and fifth worst basketball team in the country though. Amazing.

Again, I like Haase and hope he gets it together and wins the tournament.