(01-29-2015 09:09 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  Speaking of pure shooters, here's the video highlights of Klay Thompson's 37-point 3rd quarter explosion against the Kings on January 23rd. Thompson didn't miss a shot in the quarter, going 13-13 from the floor (including 9-9 from 3-point range). He was also 2-2 from the FT line. Enjoy!

Thompson's outburst reminded me of Paul Dawkins, has he been mentioned yet? I think he had 30 in a half once for the Utah Jazz.

(01-29-2015 02:25 PM)7 Wrote:  

(01-29-2015 02:16 PM)huskie87fan Wrote:  Monty will get it done. He is getting better recruits that NIU has not seen in 15 years. Injuries have hurt a little this year and I would suspect that since some holes have been filled from the current roster he is going to be on high alert to focus on getting a couple of shooters. The kid from Naperville is supposed to be one of those guys but we will see next year.

I don't think he is anymore. I don't think he's a bad coach but he's going to become a victim of injuries and inheriting a program that was ****. They'll likely going to win like 10 games next year and he'll be gone.

Monty just signed an extension no way he is being fired. Monty works to hard for the team not to be better next year. Marin is better than Tree. I cannot see how Johnson played in Big Ten horrible defensive player. Aaron does not start but I have always thought he should play more minutes instead of AJ. Pete will be replaced by the Milwaukee kids. The seniors provide decent depth but the kids coming in have more talent than most NIU recruiting classes. The Rockford point guard will push Orris to number three point guard next year. Naperville kid will be the shooter and Milwaukee kids have a ton more skill than the Gray twins.

(01-29-2015 09:38 PM)JB04 Wrote:  

(01-29-2015 09:16 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(01-29-2015 09:09 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  Speaking of pure shooters, here's the video highlights of Klay Thompson's 37-point 3rd quarter explosion against the Kings on January 23rd. Thompson didn't miss a shot in the quarter, going 13-13 from the floor (including 9-9 from 3-point range). He was also 2-2 from the FT line. Enjoy!

An awesome feat, but I have mixed emotions about this performance. It speaks to two things, one Klay Thompson has great skill but secondly, the NBA competitive balance and level of competition is poor. You have defensive players lolly-gagging all over the place in this game, almost all-star gameesque. A great performance but gets an asterisk next to it in my book.

I will say that is why I am starting to love college basketball and never really liked the nba...I feel in college it is more exciting throughout and defense is important. Watching NIU, I have always been impressed with the hustle coach Monty's team displays on D. However, I watched the last 10 minutes of the creighton v St. John's game last night and I realized what a quality team offensively should look like. Both teams making most free throws and more shots were made than missed...seemed easier to make baskets than I have seen since I have only watched niu as of late

When you watch teams like Creighton play on offense, you can see them running plays against man to man or a zone that will get them good open shots. The good shots come from a well coached team. They know who the shooters are and have a 3 point specialist that somehow always has a wide open 3 point shot. The bad shooters are not taking the most shots a game. You rarely see Creighton take a bad shot, they may have an off night but they are taking good shots.

The problem with NIU, we get very few open shots in our offense. It is like AAU ball with running my turn to shot offense.

(01-29-2015 09:16 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(01-29-2015 09:09 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  Speaking of pure shooters, here's the video highlights of Klay Thompson's 37-point 3rd quarter explosion against the Kings on January 23rd. Thompson didn't miss a shot in the quarter, going 13-13 from the floor (including 9-9 from 3-point range). He was also 2-2 from the FT line. Enjoy!

An awesome feat, but I have mixed emotions about this performance. It speaks to two things, one Klay Thompson has great skill but secondly, the NBA competitive balance and level of competition is poor. You have defensive players lolly-gagging all over the place in this game, almost all-star gameesque. A great performance but gets an asterisk next to it in my book.

You should watch the video a little more closely before you make a comment such as the defense being all star-like against Thompson. If you had watched Golden State much, you'd know they're the best in the NBA at pushing the ball up the floor. Thompson had a few scores in transition where Golden State had a 3 on 2 or a 2 on 1. Pretty hard to defend a guy in that situation.

When Golden State was in their half court offense, Thompson had a hand in his face or a guy running at him on just about every shot. It was just one of those nights where a shooter goes off and can't be stopped. It helps when you're 6'7" like Thompson. He's bigger than just about any defender matched up with him. There are very few defenders his size that can stay with him because he moves so well without the ball.

Too bad you can't appreciate Thompson's feat for what it is - the greatest offensive quarter in NBA history.

(01-29-2015 11:21 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  

(01-29-2015 09:16 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(01-29-2015 09:09 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  Speaking of pure shooters, here's the video highlights of Klay Thompson's 37-point 3rd quarter explosion against the Kings on January 23rd. Thompson didn't miss a shot in the quarter, going 13-13 from the floor (including 9-9 from 3-point range). He was also 2-2 from the FT line. Enjoy!

An awesome feat, but I have mixed emotions about this performance. It speaks to two things, one Klay Thompson has great skill but secondly, the NBA competitive balance and level of competition is poor. You have defensive players lolly-gagging all over the place in this game, almost all-star gameesque. A great performance but gets an asterisk next to it in my book.

You should watch the video a little more closely before you make a comment such as the defense being all star-like against Thompson. If you had watched Golden State much, you'd know they're the best in the NBA at pushing the ball up the floor. Thompson had a few scores in transition where Golden State had a 3 on 2 or a 2 on 1. Pretty hard to defend a guy in that situation.

When Golden State was in their half court offense, Thompson had a hand in his face or a guy running at him on just about every shot. It was just one of those nights where a shooter goes off and can't be stopped. It helps when you're 6'7" like Thompson. He's bigger than just about any defender matched up with him. There are very few defenders his size that can stay with him because he moves so well without the ball.

Too bad you can't appreciate Thompson's feat for what it is - the greatest offensive quarter in NBA history.

I just know it wouldn't have happened in an previous era like the 80's to mid 90's when some defense was attempted to be played. Its a truly remarkable feat, I am not questioning that. But to me its slightly like Bonds' HR total with steroids, there are extenuating circumstances. NBA Players now don't play defense.

Really, 7, you are bragging up Dinunno? You once said he was the worst player in college basketball. If memory serves you indicated junior high kids were better than him. You have either matured or he got exponentially better upon leaving NIU.

It does seem you use much less hyperbole in your older years. Welcome to adulthood.

(01-29-2015 11:51 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(01-29-2015 11:21 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  

(01-29-2015 09:16 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(01-29-2015 09:09 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  Speaking of pure shooters, here's the video highlights of Klay Thompson's 37-point 3rd quarter explosion against the Kings on January 23rd. Thompson didn't miss a shot in the quarter, going 13-13 from the floor (including 9-9 from 3-point range). He was also 2-2 from the FT line. Enjoy!

An awesome feat, but I have mixed emotions about this performance. It speaks to two things, one Klay Thompson has great skill but secondly, the NBA competitive balance and level of competition is poor. You have defensive players lolly-gagging all over the place in this game, almost all-star gameesque. A great performance but gets an asterisk next to it in my book.

You should watch the video a little more closely before you make a comment such as the defense being all star-like against Thompson. If you had watched Golden State much, you'd know they're the best in the NBA at pushing the ball up the floor. Thompson had a few scores in transition where Golden State had a 3 on 2 or a 2 on 1. Pretty hard to defend a guy in that situation.

When Golden State was in their half court offense, Thompson had a hand in his face or a guy running at him on just about every shot. It was just one of those nights where a shooter goes off and can't be stopped. It helps when you're 6'7" like Thompson. He's bigger than just about any defender matched up with him. There are very few defenders his size that can stay with him because he moves so well without the ball.

Too bad you can't appreciate Thompson's feat for what it is - the greatest offensive quarter in NBA history.

I just know it wouldn't have happened in an previous era like the 80's to mid 90's when some defense was attempted to be played. Its a truly remarkable feat, I am not questioning that. But to me its slightly like Bonds' HR total with steroids, there are extenuating circumstances. NBA Players now don't play defense.

A 13-13 quarter, on any floor, against any competition, is amazing. To do it in the NBA is unreal. To pretend otherwise is a discrediting argument and to persist is stubborn nonsense. To compare it to Bonds/cheating is criminally stupid. That was an astounding quarter and something like that might not be seen for a decade or more. Amazing.

The NBA is playing better defense than ever. A lot of people think that because it's less one-on-one and the fouls aren't as stupid hard, that it's worse...but that's not the case. The coaching has gotten a lot better and team defenses are the rule, forcing a lot more threes and fouling less.

Some helpful and relevant date from 1980 and on to prove the point:

Words and graphs about NBA offense/defense

(01-30-2015 01:04 AM)cagy cager Wrote:  Really, 7, you are bragging up Dinunno? You once said he was the worst player in college basketball. If memory serves you indicated junior high kids were better than him. You have either matured or he got exponentially better upon leaving NIU.

It does seem you use much less hyperbole in your older years. Welcome to adulthood.

Oh he had one of the worst seasons I've ever seen at the college level. Not only did he shot an awful percentage (I think it was like 29%), but he also shot every chance he got. But he went somewhere else and developed his skills and became a productive player. Amazing what some coaching can do for a guy.

(01-30-2015 08:39 AM)7 Wrote:  

(01-30-2015 01:04 AM)cagy cager Wrote:  Really, 7, you are bragging up Dinunno? You once said he was the worst player in college basketball. If memory serves you indicated junior high kids were better than him. You have either matured or he got exponentially better upon leaving NIU.

It does seem you use much less hyperbole in your older years. Welcome to adulthood.

Oh he had one of the worst seasons I've ever seen at the college level. Not only did he shot an awful percentage (I think it was like 29%), but he also shot every chance he got. But he went somewhere else and developed his skills and became a productive player. Amazing what some coaching can do for a guy.

Dinunno looks like an All American compared to Baker 21% shooting.
http://www.niuhuskies.com/sports/m-baskb...52159.html

(01-29-2015 02:25 PM)7 Wrote:  

(01-29-2015 02:16 PM)huskie87fan Wrote:  Monty will get it done. He is getting better recruits that NIU has not seen in 15 years. Injuries have hurt a little this year and I would suspect that since some holes have been filled from the current roster he is going to be on high alert to focus on getting a couple of shooters. The kid from Naperville is supposed to be one of those guys but we will see next year.

I don't think he is anymore. I don't think he's a bad coach but he's going to become a victim of injuries and inheriting a program that was ****. They'll likely going to win like 10 games next year and he'll be gone.

I think they will ride with Monty for awhile unless NIU reverts back to 6 wins per year type bad. It is evident that NIU's problem basketball-wise is not as much coaching as it is systematic and inherent.

(01-30-2015 08:50 AM)NIU75 Wrote:  

(01-30-2015 08:39 AM)7 Wrote:  

(01-30-2015 01:04 AM)cagy cager Wrote:  Really, 7, you are bragging up Dinunno? You once said he was the worst player in college basketball. If memory serves you indicated junior high kids were better than him. You have either matured or he got exponentially better upon leaving NIU.

It does seem you use much less hyperbole in your older years. Welcome to adulthood.

Oh he had one of the worst seasons I've ever seen at the college level. Not only did he shot an awful percentage (I think it was like 29%), but he also shot every chance he got. But he went somewhere else and developed his skills and became a productive player. Amazing what some coaching can do for a guy.

Dinunno looks like an All American compared to Baker 21% shooting.
http://www.niuhuskies.com/sports/m-baskb...52159.html

I literally didn't believe he was shooting 21% until I went to his ESPN page and checked. Yeesh. How is that even possible?

(01-30-2015 09:04 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(01-29-2015 02:25 PM)7 Wrote:  

(01-29-2015 02:16 PM)huskie87fan Wrote:  Monty will get it done. He is getting better recruits that NIU has not seen in 15 years. Injuries have hurt a little this year and I would suspect that since some holes have been filled from the current roster he is going to be on high alert to focus on getting a couple of shooters. The kid from Naperville is supposed to be one of those guys but we will see next year.

I don't think he is anymore. I don't think he's a bad coach but he's going to become a victim of injuries and inheriting a program that was ****. They'll likely going to win like 10 games next year and he'll be gone.

I think they will ride with Monty for awhile unless NIU reverts back to 6 wins per year type bad. It is evident that NIU's problem basketball-wise is not as much coaching as it is systematic and inherent.

It will be interesting to see how Frazier plays this...let's assume we end with 12 - 15 wins this year (basically no improvement). Is MM on the hot seat next year? Remember MM isn't Frazier's guy, maybe he's a fan, maybe not.

I agree it would probably take a 10 or less win total next year for him to get the ax.

I'm a MM fan, hoping he succeeds here, and yes this was a program as in the dumps as dumps can get, but eventually you have to evaluate the work, and the absolute STRUGGLE this team has had on offense will eventually be a concern.

They will win over 10 games next year. Bowie, Aaric Armstead, Baker and Maric are enough to get that done. People have really skipped over the injury factor with this team. Dontel missing season, Johnson starts season hurt, Bowie misses first 5 conference games and Armstead missing conference games. Those are your scorer's

(01-30-2015 09:06 AM)7 Wrote:  

(01-30-2015 08:50 AM)NIU75 Wrote:  

(01-30-2015 08:39 AM)7 Wrote:  

(01-30-2015 01:04 AM)cagy cager Wrote:  Really, 7, you are bragging up Dinunno? You once said he was the worst player in college basketball. If memory serves you indicated junior high kids were better than him. You have either matured or he got exponentially better upon leaving NIU.

It does seem you use much less hyperbole in your older years. Welcome to adulthood.

Oh he had one of the worst seasons I've ever seen at the college level. Not only did he shot an awful percentage (I think it was like 29%), but he also shot every chance he got. But he went somewhere else and developed his skills and became a productive player. Amazing what some coaching can do for a guy.

Dinunno looks like an All American compared to Baker 21% shooting.
http://www.niuhuskies.com/sports/m-baskb...52159.html

I literally didn't believe he was shooting 21% until I went to his ESPN page and checked. Yeesh. How is that even possible?

In NIU's 10 losses Baker is 10 for 74, but shoots in the 45 percent range when NIU wins.

(01-30-2015 10:12 AM)dekalb222 Wrote:  They will win over 10 games next year. Bowie, Aaric Armstead, Baker and Maric are enough to get that done. People have really skipped over the injury factor with this team. Dontel missing season, Johnson starts season hurt, Bowie misses first 5 conference games and Armstead missing conference games. Those are your scorer's

What's the update on Dontel ? Thanks

I have no idea maybe Cagey Cager knows what's up with Dontel. It is not a sure thing that Dontel is out next year.

(01-28-2015 08:53 PM)Turner4Heisman Wrote:  Didnt see any downtown Mike Brown mentions!

Absolutely. Downtown Mike Brown, babay! Loved watching him.

(01-29-2015 11:11 PM)huskie87fan Wrote:  

(01-29-2015 02:25 PM)7 Wrote:  

(01-29-2015 02:16 PM)huskie87fan Wrote:  Monty will get it done. He is getting better recruits that NIU has not seen in 15 years. Injuries have hurt a little this year and I would suspect that since some holes have been filled from the current roster he is going to be on high alert to focus on getting a couple of shooters. The kid from Naperville is supposed to be one of those guys but we will see next year.

I don't think he is anymore. I don't think he's a bad coach but he's going to become a victim of injuries and inheriting a program that was ****. They'll likely going to win like 10 games next year and he'll be gone.

Monty just signed an extension no way he is being fired. Monty works to hard for the team not to be better next year. Marin is better than Tree. I cannot see how Johnson played in Big Ten horrible defensive player. Aaron does not start but I have always thought he should play more minutes instead of AJ. Pete will be replaced by the Milwaukee kids. The seniors provide decent depth but the kids coming in have more talent than most NIU recruiting classes. The Rockford point guard will push Orris to number three point guard next year. Naperville kid will be the shooter and Milwaukee kids have a ton more skill than the Gray twins.

Laytwan Porter seems to be a hell of a talent. A friend of mine, who's opinion I highly trust (currently an individual basketball coach, played D1 ball, and has been inducted to the Illinois Basketball Hall of Fame as a HS PG), told me that he believes this kid is as good if not better than Fred VanVleet. I'll get a good look at him when Auburn plays Hononegah on Feb. 27th. Shouldn't be much of a challenge for Auburn though. They've been destroying everyone in their way, with the exception of St. Rita (only loss and lost by 2 points) and maybe one other team on their schedule (Normal?).

(01-31-2015 02:12 PM)Who You Crappin? Wrote:  

(01-29-2015 11:11 PM)huskie87fan Wrote:  

(01-29-2015 02:25 PM)7 Wrote:  

(01-29-2015 02:16 PM)huskie87fan Wrote:  Monty will get it done. He is getting better recruits that NIU has not seen in 15 years. Injuries have hurt a little this year and I would suspect that since some holes have been filled from the current roster he is going to be on high alert to focus on getting a couple of shooters. The kid from Naperville is supposed to be one of those guys but we will see next year.

I don't think he is anymore. I don't think he's a bad coach but he's going to become a victim of injuries and inheriting a program that was ****. They'll likely going to win like 10 games next year and he'll be gone.

Monty just signed an extension no way he is being fired. Monty works to hard for the team not to be better next year. Marin is better than Tree. I cannot see how Johnson played in Big Ten horrible defensive player. Aaron does not start but I have always thought he should play more minutes instead of AJ. Pete will be replaced by the Milwaukee kids. The seniors provide decent depth but the kids coming in have more talent than most NIU recruiting classes. The Rockford point guard will push Orris to number three point guard next year. Naperville kid will be the shooter and Milwaukee kids have a ton more skill than the Gray twins.

Laytwan Porter seems to be a hell of a talent. A friend of mine, who's opinion I highly trust (currently an individual basketball coach, played D1 ball, and has been inducted to the Illinois Basketball Hall of Fame as a HS PG), told me that he believes this kid is as good if not better than Fred VanVleet. I'll get a good look at him when Auburn plays Hononegah on Feb. 27th. Shouldn't be much of a challenge for Auburn though. They've been destroying everyone in their way, with the exception of St. Rita (only loss and lost by 2 points) and maybe one other team on their schedule (Normal?).

That's quite a statement. Hope so. Let him start next year....This team is starving for a true leader at the PG position.

(01-31-2015 02:38 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  

(01-31-2015 02:12 PM)Who You Crappin? Wrote:  

(01-29-2015 11:11 PM)huskie87fan Wrote:  

(01-29-2015 02:25 PM)7 Wrote:  

(01-29-2015 02:16 PM)huskie87fan Wrote:  Monty will get it done. He is getting better recruits that NIU has not seen in 15 years. Injuries have hurt a little this year and I would suspect that since some holes have been filled from the current roster he is going to be on high alert to focus on getting a couple of shooters. The kid from Naperville is supposed to be one of those guys but we will see next year.

I don't think he is anymore. I don't think he's a bad coach but he's going to become a victim of injuries and inheriting a program that was ****. They'll likely going to win like 10 games next year and he'll be gone.

Monty just signed an extension no way he is being fired. Monty works to hard for the team not to be better next year. Marin is better than Tree. I cannot see how Johnson played in Big Ten horrible defensive player. Aaron does not start but I have always thought he should play more minutes instead of AJ. Pete will be replaced by the Milwaukee kids. The seniors provide decent depth but the kids coming in have more talent than most NIU recruiting classes. The Rockford point guard will push Orris to number three point guard next year. Naperville kid will be the shooter and Milwaukee kids have a ton more skill than the Gray twins.

Laytwan Porter seems to be a hell of a talent. A friend of mine, who's opinion I highly trust (currently an individual basketball coach, played D1 ball, and has been inducted to the Illinois Basketball Hall of Fame as a HS PG), told me that he believes this kid is as good if not better than Fred VanVleet. I'll get a good look at him when Auburn plays Hononegah on Feb. 27th. Shouldn't be much of a challenge for Auburn though. They've been destroying everyone in their way, with the exception of St. Rita (only loss and lost by 2 points) and maybe one other team on their schedule (Normal?).

That's quite a statement. Hope so. Let him start next year....This team is starving for a true leader at the PG position.

So we will have an All American at NIU that will bring us to the final four in three years. Please stop drinking the KoolAid.