(12-21-2014 07:13 PM)Malachi Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 07:04 PM)Chi-Town Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 06:49 PM)Malachi Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 06:42 PM)Chi-Town Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 01:58 PM)Malachi Wrote:  I'd like for a die hard pastner supporter to explain to me exactly what they see in his coaching philosophy and tendencies that lead them to believe he is an elite coach, or will be.

It's all about the W's right?

One of the winningest coaches in their first 5 years in the history of college basketball is not good enough? What is good enough?

Oh, and to the poster who indicated that this thread is gay, you are showing your age using a comment like that. POS.

And here it is. The fundamental debate. Is it just about winning percentage? Or is it about winning the national championship?

One would presume the former could be an indication that the latter is possible. An NCAA championship is NEVER likely, but more likely so than many other coaches who do not win at the same clip. I will take a 74% winning percentage anytime. Obviously I also hope for a deep run, I'm not stupid, but I choose to hook my buggy to a horse that has a better chance to get me there.

74% is a strong percentage. But you know and I know that percentage was achieved against less than quality competition.

So digging deeper, Pastners winning percentage against ranked teams/better competition is well below 50%.

Which then leads you to believe his ability to get us into the national championship conversation is extremely unlikely, which leads to a good portion of the fan base ready for a change.

I have asked this question before, but nobody seems to want to answer it other than saying "facilities", etc., if it were as easy as you claim (lesser competition) why didn't Eustachy or Floyd (just to name 2 college basketball former COY's) do it? Pastner not only did it, but he did it as a 31 yo bright eyed, first time college coach whose cupboard was basically bare when he accepted the job.

Pastner is no Izzo, or Self, Boeheim or Pitino, but how many are (or, where they at Pastner's age?)?

Many would have said Tom Crean was an absolute superstar (many did), and I bet several here would drool over the thought of him as our coach, but look at what has happened to him with a few unfortunate years.

Calling for Pastner's head is pure idiocy after winning 25+ games per year in HIS FIRST COACHING GIG at a fairly prominent job. I am not happy with mediocrity, but I am thrilled with success. That is what we have seen in the last 5 years. Tied for 12th most current strings of NCAA tournament appearances.

(12-21-2014 07:13 PM)Malachi Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 07:04 PM)Chi-Town Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 06:49 PM)Malachi Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 06:42 PM)Chi-Town Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 01:58 PM)Malachi Wrote:  I'd like for a die hard pastner supporter to explain to me exactly what they see in his coaching philosophy and tendencies that lead them to believe he is an elite coach, or will be.

It's all about the W's right?

One of the winningest coaches in their first 5 years in the history of college basketball is not good enough? What is good enough?

Oh, and to the poster who indicated that this thread is gay, you are showing your age using a comment like that. POS.

And here it is. The fundamental debate. Is it just about winning percentage? Or is it about winning the national championship?

One would presume the former could be an indication that the latter is possible. An NCAA championship is NEVER likely, but more likely so than many other coaches who do not win at the same clip. I will take a 74% winning percentage anytime. Obviously I also hope for a deep run, I'm not stupid, but I choose to hook my buggy to a horse that has a better chance to get me there.

74% is a strong percentage. But you know and I know that percentage was achieved against less than quality competition.

So digging deeper, Pastners winning percentage against ranked teams/better competition is well below 50%.

Which then leads you to believe his ability to get us into the national championship conversation is extremely unlikely, which leads to a good portion of the fan base ready for a change.

The only person digging deeper is you....

By the way, can you show us your posts during Calipari's final few years? You know, the one where you were slamming him for not getting the job done? Cause, at last count, the asshat didnt win a damned championship while he was here.

asshat is a good word for cal...
During his years here, I found myself in the position of explaining to the moms of teenage boys why it was necessary for the foulest language imaginable to come out of cal's assmouth.

Chi-town, you're really throwing folks for a loop mentioning 74% winning and four consecutive NCAA tournament appearances. These folks want 2006-2009 replicated, that's all. One even said that should be the standard. Another said it about national championships, not a mere 74% winning percentage. Some consider that a "crappy record". Interesting.

Will Pastner make it through this season? Will the major donors retain him? Who knows? In my limited observation, winning cures all ills. MEMPHIS has won a few games now, and some players are improving (Pookie) while others seem to be regressing (Shaq). The conference play will be interesting, as most teams seem to be down a bit. Time will be the ultimate judge.

(12-21-2014 06:49 PM)Malachi Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 06:42 PM)Chi-Town Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 01:58 PM)Malachi Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 01:51 PM)Rob Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 10:33 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Cal had done it before. You really aren't that naive are you?

You know the answer

I'd like for a die hard pastner supporter to explain to me exactly what they see in his coaching philosophy and tendencies that lead them to believe he is an elite coach, or will be.

It's all about the W's right?

One of the winningest coaches in their first 5 years in the history of college basketball is not good enough? What is good enough?

Oh, and to the poster who indicated that this thread is gay, you are showing your age using a comment like that. POS.

And here it is. The fundamental debate. Is it just about winning percentage? Or is it about winning the national championship?

For a program that enters and then drops off the national scene ever 12-15 years., We have a lot of fans with delusions of competing for the national title every year in their heads. We have never been in a position where we have competed for the title year in and year out for more than a few years at a time. Most of the programs that do have not changed coaches every 6 years. When a coach has more wins than any other coach in the school's history over his first five years and more NCAA appearances and more NCAA wins than any other coach in eh school's history during that period. Then you have people claiming that the program has fallen into mediocrity. Then you have some delusional people.

If you think he is unable to take us to the next level then say you think he is not able to take us to the next level. But this mediocrity bull**** is just that total and complete bull****.

(12-18-2014 08:51 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Nice try.

But our current coach does not have a crappy record.

It is stuff like that, that gets the responses. Then typically, although maybe you are more mature, the same one who used crappy then whines.

Please name something significant the current coach has accomplished. I know running a clean program is the first thing you will say, so I'm taking that off the board.

(12-21-2014 07:43 PM)Chi-Town Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 07:13 PM)Malachi Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 07:04 PM)Chi-Town Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 06:49 PM)Malachi Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 06:42 PM)Chi-Town Wrote:  It's all about the W's right?

One of the winningest coaches in their first 5 years in the history of college basketball is not good enough? What is good enough?

Oh, and to the poster who indicated that this thread is gay, you are showing your age using a comment like that. POS.

And here it is. The fundamental debate. Is it just about winning percentage? Or is it about winning the national championship?

One would presume the former could be an indication that the latter is possible. An NCAA championship is NEVER likely, but more likely so than many other coaches who do not win at the same clip. I will take a 74% winning percentage anytime. Obviously I also hope for a deep run, I'm not stupid, but I choose to hook my buggy to a horse that has a better chance to get me there.

74% is a strong percentage. But you know and I know that percentage was achieved against less than quality competition.

So digging deeper, Pastners winning percentage against ranked teams/better competition is well below 50%.

Which then leads you to believe his ability to get us into the national championship conversation is extremely unlikely, which leads to a good portion of the fan base ready for a change.

I have asked this question before, but nobody seems to want to answer it other than saying "facilities", etc., if it were as easy as you claim (lesser competition) why didn't Eustachy or Floyd (just to name 2 college basketball former COY's) do it? Pastner not only did it, but he did it as a 31 yo bright eyed, first time college coach whose cupboard was basically bare when he accepted the job.

Pastner is no Izzo, or Self, Boeheim or Pitino, but how many are (or, where they at Pastner's age?)?

Many would have said Tom Crean was an absolute superstar (many did), and I bet several here would drool over the thought of him as our coach, but look at what has happened to him with a few unfortunate years.

Calling for Pastner's head is pure idiocy after winning 25+ games per year in HIS FIRST COACHING GIG at a fairly prominent job. I am not happy with mediocrity, but I am thrilled with success. That is what we have seen in the last 5 years. Tied for 12th most current strings of NCAA tournament appearances.

He did it with talent. Early on he did what he did best. Recruited top 5 recruiting classes that greatly outclassed anything in cusa.

I give pastner credit for never losing a game he shouldn't have. Problem is he never won a game he shouldn't have either.

Do you want Memphis to be a good mid major that makes a lucky run every now and then?

Or do you want Memphis to be a perennial national championship contender?

(12-21-2014 07:57 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 07:13 PM)Malachi Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 07:04 PM)Chi-Town Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 06:49 PM)Malachi Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 06:42 PM)Chi-Town Wrote:  It's all about the W's right?

One of the winningest coaches in their first 5 years in the history of college basketball is not good enough? What is good enough?

Oh, and to the poster who indicated that this thread is gay, you are showing your age using a comment like that. POS.

And here it is. The fundamental debate. Is it just about winning percentage? Or is it about winning the national championship?

One would presume the former could be an indication that the latter is possible. An NCAA championship is NEVER likely, but more likely so than many other coaches who do not win at the same clip. I will take a 74% winning percentage anytime. Obviously I also hope for a deep run, I'm not stupid, but I choose to hook my buggy to a horse that has a better chance to get me there.

74% is a strong percentage. But you know and I know that percentage was achieved against less than quality competition.

So digging deeper, Pastners winning percentage against ranked teams/better competition is well below 50%.

Which then leads you to believe his ability to get us into the national championship conversation is extremely unlikely, which leads to a good portion of the fan base ready for a change.

The only person digging deeper is you....

By the way, can you show us your posts during Calipari's final few years? You know, the one where you were slamming him for not getting the job done? Cause, at last count, the asshat didnt win a damned championship while he was here.

Your hysterics are comical.

(12-21-2014 08:03 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 06:49 PM)Malachi Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 06:42 PM)Chi-Town Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 01:58 PM)Malachi Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 01:51 PM)Rob Wrote:  You know the answer

I'd like for a die hard pastner supporter to explain to me exactly what they see in his coaching philosophy and tendencies that lead them to believe he is an elite coach, or will be.

It's all about the W's right?

One of the winningest coaches in their first 5 years in the history of college basketball is not good enough? What is good enough?

Oh, and to the poster who indicated that this thread is gay, you are showing your age using a comment like that. POS.

And here it is. The fundamental debate. Is it just about winning percentage? Or is it about winning the national championship?

For a program that enters and then drops off the national scene ever 12-15 years., We have a lot of fans with delusions of competing for the national title every year in their heads. We have never been in a position where we have competed for the title year in and year out for more than a few years at a time. Most of the programs that do have not changed coaches every 6 years. When a coach has more wins than any other coach in the school's history over his first five years and more NCAA appearances and more NCAA wins than any other coach in eh school's history during that period. Then you have people claiming that the program has fallen into mediocrity. Then you have some delusional people.

If you think he is unable to take us to the next level then say you think he is not able to take us to the next level. But this mediocrity bull**** is just that total and complete bull****.

I've said it time and time again. Pastner is not the coach to take us to the next level. Simple as that.

Quote:I've said it time and time again.

Like an obnoxious broken record.

(12-21-2014 08:38 PM)Malachi Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 07:43 PM)Chi-Town Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 07:13 PM)Malachi Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 07:04 PM)Chi-Town Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 06:49 PM)Malachi Wrote:  And here it is. The fundamental debate. Is it just about winning percentage? Or is it about winning the national championship?

One would presume the former could be an indication that the latter is possible. An NCAA championship is NEVER likely, but more likely so than many other coaches who do not win at the same clip. I will take a 74% winning percentage anytime. Obviously I also hope for a deep run, I'm not stupid, but I choose to hook my buggy to a horse that has a better chance to get me there.

74% is a strong percentage. But you know and I know that percentage was achieved against less than quality competition.

So digging deeper, Pastners winning percentage against ranked teams/better competition is well below 50%.

Which then leads you to believe his ability to get us into the national championship conversation is extremely unlikely, which leads to a good portion of the fan base ready for a change.

I have asked this question before, but nobody seems to want to answer it other than saying "facilities", etc., if it were as easy as you claim (lesser competition) why didn't Eustachy or Floyd (just to name 2 college basketball former COY's) do it? Pastner not only did it, but he did it as a 31 yo bright eyed, first time college coach whose cupboard was basically bare when he accepted the job.

Pastner is no Izzo, or Self, Boeheim or Pitino, but how many are (or, where they at Pastner's age?)?

Many would have said Tom Crean was an absolute superstar (many did), and I bet several here would drool over the thought of him as our coach, but look at what has happened to him with a few unfortunate years.

Calling for Pastner's head is pure idiocy after winning 25+ games per year in HIS FIRST COACHING GIG at a fairly prominent job. I am not happy with mediocrity, but I am thrilled with success. That is what we have seen in the last 5 years. Tied for 12th most current strings of NCAA tournament appearances.

He did it with talent. Early on he did what he did best. Recruited top 5 recruiting classes that greatly outclassed anything in cusa.

I give pastner credit for never losing a game he shouldn't have. Problem is he never won a game he shouldn't have either.

Do you want Memphis to be a good mid major that makes a lucky run every now and then?

Or do you want Memphis to be a perennial national championship contender?

Again, no answer to the question in bold.

Who did Pastner beat in the C-USA tourney final to make the NCAA tournament and how many years did that guy have under his belt at the time?

We swept Louisville last year and beat a pretty decent OK State team as well as taking the national champs to the wire at their house. How unrealistic can your expectations be?

(12-22-2014 11:15 AM)Chi-Town Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 08:38 PM)Malachi Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 07:43 PM)Chi-Town Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 07:13 PM)Malachi Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 07:04 PM)Chi-Town Wrote:  One would presume the former could be an indication that the latter is possible. An NCAA championship is NEVER likely, but more likely so than many other coaches who do not win at the same clip. I will take a 74% winning percentage anytime. Obviously I also hope for a deep run, I'm not stupid, but I choose to hook my buggy to a horse that has a better chance to get me there.

74% is a strong percentage. But you know and I know that percentage was achieved against less than quality competition.

So digging deeper, Pastners winning percentage against ranked teams/better competition is well below 50%.

Which then leads you to believe his ability to get us into the national championship conversation is extremely unlikely, which leads to a good portion of the fan base ready for a change.

I have asked this question before, but nobody seems to want to answer it other than saying "facilities", etc., if it were as easy as you claim (lesser competition) why didn't Eustachy or Floyd (just to name 2 college basketball former COY's) do it? Pastner not only did it, but he did it as a 31 yo bright eyed, first time college coach whose cupboard was basically bare when he accepted the job.

Pastner is no Izzo, or Self, Boeheim or Pitino, but how many are (or, where they at Pastner's age?)?

Many would have said Tom Crean was an absolute superstar (many did), and I bet several here would drool over the thought of him as our coach, but look at what has happened to him with a few unfortunate years.

Calling for Pastner's head is pure idiocy after winning 25+ games per year in HIS FIRST COACHING GIG at a fairly prominent job. I am not happy with mediocrity, but I am thrilled with success. That is what we have seen in the last 5 years. Tied for 12th most current strings of NCAA tournament appearances.

He did it with talent. Early on he did what he did best. Recruited top 5 recruiting classes that greatly outclassed anything in cusa.

I give pastner credit for never losing a game he shouldn't have. Problem is he never won a game he shouldn't have either.

Do you want Memphis to be a good mid major that makes a lucky run every now and then?

Or do you want Memphis to be a perennial national championship contender?

Again, no answer to the question in bold.

Who did Pastner beat in the C-USA tourney final to make the NCAA tournament and how many years did that guy have under his belt at the time?

We swept Louisville last year and beat a pretty decent OK State team as well as taking the national champs to the wire at their house. How unrealistic can your expectations be?

I completely missed where he said that Pastner has never won a game he shouldnt have. I guess Oklanhoma St on a neutral floor and Lousiville at Louisville were gimmes for us last year. Just wow.

This is a perfect example of when you find yourself in a hole, stop digging. But instead of puting down the shovel, Malachi went out and got himself a backhoe with nitrous oxide, and has quickly gotten halfway to China.

(12-22-2014 11:15 AM)Chi-Town Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 08:38 PM)Malachi Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 07:43 PM)Chi-Town Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 07:13 PM)Malachi Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 07:04 PM)Chi-Town Wrote:  One would presume the former could be an indication that the latter is possible. An NCAA championship is NEVER likely, but more likely so than many other coaches who do not win at the same clip. I will take a 74% winning percentage anytime. Obviously I also hope for a deep run, I'm not stupid, but I choose to hook my buggy to a horse that has a better chance to get me there.

74% is a strong percentage. But you know and I know that percentage was achieved against less than quality competition.

So digging deeper, Pastners winning percentage against ranked teams/better competition is well below 50%.

Which then leads you to believe his ability to get us into the national championship conversation is extremely unlikely, which leads to a good portion of the fan base ready for a change.

I have asked this question before, but nobody seems to want to answer it other than saying "facilities", etc., if it were as easy as you claim (lesser competition) why didn't Eustachy or Floyd (just to name 2 college basketball former COY's) do it? Pastner not only did it, but he did it as a 31 yo bright eyed, first time college coach whose cupboard was basically bare when he accepted the job.

Pastner is no Izzo, or Self, Boeheim or Pitino, but how many are (or, where they at Pastner's age?)?

Many would have said Tom Crean was an absolute superstar (many did), and I bet several here would drool over the thought of him as our coach, but look at what has happened to him with a few unfortunate years.

Calling for Pastner's head is pure idiocy after winning 25+ games per year in HIS FIRST COACHING GIG at a fairly prominent job. I am not happy with mediocrity, but I am thrilled with success. That is what we have seen in the last 5 years. Tied for 12th most current strings of NCAA tournament appearances.

He did it with talent. Early on he did what he did best. Recruited top 5 recruiting classes that greatly outclassed anything in cusa.

I give pastner credit for never losing a game he shouldn't have. Problem is he never won a game he shouldn't have either.

Do you want Memphis to be a good mid major that makes a lucky run every now and then?

Or do you want Memphis to be a perennial national championship contender?

Again, no answer to the question in bold.

Who did Pastner beat in the C-USA tourney final to make the NCAA tournament and how many years did that guy have under his belt at the time?

We swept Louisville last year and beat a pretty decent OK State team as well as taking the national champs to the wire at their house. How unrealistic can your expectations be?

I told you the answer. How manyMcDonald aa, 4 and 5 stars did Floyd Etc have compared to Memphis ?

(12-22-2014 12:24 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(12-22-2014 11:15 AM)Chi-Town Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 08:38 PM)Malachi Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 07:43 PM)Chi-Town Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 07:13 PM)Malachi Wrote:  74% is a strong percentage. But you know and I know that percentage was achieved against less than quality competition.

So digging deeper, Pastners winning percentage against ranked teams/better competition is well below 50%.

Which then leads you to believe his ability to get us into the national championship conversation is extremely unlikely, which leads to a good portion of the fan base ready for a change.

I have asked this question before, but nobody seems to want to answer it other than saying "facilities", etc., if it were as easy as you claim (lesser competition) why didn't Eustachy or Floyd (just to name 2 college basketball former COY's) do it? Pastner not only did it, but he did it as a 31 yo bright eyed, first time college coach whose cupboard was basically bare when he accepted the job.

Pastner is no Izzo, or Self, Boeheim or Pitino, but how many are (or, where they at Pastner's age?)?

Many would have said Tom Crean was an absolute superstar (many did), and I bet several here would drool over the thought of him as our coach, but look at what has happened to him with a few unfortunate years.

Calling for Pastner's head is pure idiocy after winning 25+ games per year in HIS FIRST COACHING GIG at a fairly prominent job. I am not happy with mediocrity, but I am thrilled with success. That is what we have seen in the last 5 years. Tied for 12th most current strings of NCAA tournament appearances.

He did it with talent. Early on he did what he did best. Recruited top 5 recruiting classes that greatly outclassed anything in cusa.

I give pastner credit for never losing a game he shouldn't have. Problem is he never won a game he shouldn't have either.

Do you want Memphis to be a good mid major that makes a lucky run every now and then?

Or do you want Memphis to be a perennial national championship contender?

Again, no answer to the question in bold.

Who did Pastner beat in the C-USA tourney final to make the NCAA tournament and how many years did that guy have under his belt at the time?

We swept Louisville last year and beat a pretty decent OK State team as well as taking the national champs to the wire at their house. How unrealistic can your expectations be?

I completely missed where he said that Pastner has never won a game he shouldnt have. I guess Oklanhoma St on a neutral floor and Lousiville at Louisville were gimmes for us last year. Just wow.

This is a perfect example of when you find yourself in a hole, stop digging. But instead of puting down the shovel, Malachi went out and got himself a backhoe with nitrous oxide, and has quickly gotten halfway to China.

If you're gonna play message board hero pay attention to the conversation. We are talking about cusa. Not last year buddy.

(12-22-2014 12:38 PM)Malachi Wrote:  

(12-22-2014 12:24 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(12-22-2014 11:15 AM)Chi-Town Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 08:38 PM)Malachi Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 07:43 PM)Chi-Town Wrote:  I have asked this question before, but nobody seems to want to answer it other than saying "facilities", etc., if it were as easy as you claim (lesser competition) why didn't Eustachy or Floyd (just to name 2 college basketball former COY's) do it? Pastner not only did it, but he did it as a 31 yo bright eyed, first time college coach whose cupboard was basically bare when he accepted the job.

Pastner is no Izzo, or Self, Boeheim or Pitino, but how many are (or, where they at Pastner's age?)?

Many would have said Tom Crean was an absolute superstar (many did), and I bet several here would drool over the thought of him as our coach, but look at what has happened to him with a few unfortunate years.

Calling for Pastner's head is pure idiocy after winning 25+ games per year in HIS FIRST COACHING GIG at a fairly prominent job. I am not happy with mediocrity, but I am thrilled with success. That is what we have seen in the last 5 years. Tied for 12th most current strings of NCAA tournament appearances.

He did it with talent. Early on he did what he did best. Recruited top 5 recruiting classes that greatly outclassed anything in cusa.

I give pastner credit for never losing a game he shouldn't have. Problem is he never won a game he shouldn't have either.

Do you want Memphis to be a good mid major that makes a lucky run every now and then?

Or do you want Memphis to be a perennial national championship contender?

Again, no answer to the question in bold.

Who did Pastner beat in the C-USA tourney final to make the NCAA tournament and how many years did that guy have under his belt at the time?

We swept Louisville last year and beat a pretty decent OK State team as well as taking the national champs to the wire at their house. How unrealistic can your expectations be?

I completely missed where he said that Pastner has never won a game he shouldnt have. I guess Oklanhoma St on a neutral floor and Lousiville at Louisville were gimmes for us last year. Just wow.

This is a perfect example of when you find yourself in a hole, stop digging. But instead of puting down the shovel, Malachi went out and got himself a backhoe with nitrous oxide, and has quickly gotten halfway to China.

If you're gonna play message board hero pay attention to the conversation. We are talking about cusa. Not last year buddy.

Just to be clear, you are admitting that Pastner has won games he shouldnt have?

(12-22-2014 12:46 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(12-22-2014 12:38 PM)Malachi Wrote:  

(12-22-2014 12:24 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(12-22-2014 11:15 AM)Chi-Town Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 08:38 PM)Malachi Wrote:  He did it with talent. Early on he did what he did best. Recruited top 5 recruiting classes that greatly outclassed anything in cusa.

I give pastner credit for never losing a game he shouldn't have. Problem is he never won a game he shouldn't have either.

Do you want Memphis to be a good mid major that makes a lucky run every now and then?

Or do you want Memphis to be a perennial national championship contender?

Again, no answer to the question in bold.

Who did Pastner beat in the C-USA tourney final to make the NCAA tournament and how many years did that guy have under his belt at the time?

We swept Louisville last year and beat a pretty decent OK State team as well as taking the national champs to the wire at their house. How unrealistic can your expectations be?

I completely missed where he said that Pastner has never won a game he shouldnt have. I guess Oklanhoma St on a neutral floor and Lousiville at Louisville were gimmes for us last year. Just wow.

This is a perfect example of when you find yourself in a hole, stop digging. But instead of puting down the shovel, Malachi went out and got himself a backhoe with nitrous oxide, and has quickly gotten halfway to China.

If you're gonna play message board hero pay attention to the conversation. We are talking about cusa. Not last year buddy.

Just to be clear, you are admitting that Pastner has won games he shouldnt have?

I must admit I was being too kind when I said he hasn't lost any games he shouldn't have. I forgot about some of those conference doozies like SMU, Marshall, UTEP and East Carolina. Not to mention other losses like Murray St. and even SFA and OK State at home this year. And CBU - wow, exhibition sure, but when's the last time the Memphis Tigers lost to CBU in anything?

If you're looking at his entire career, then I'd give him those 2 games he won he shouldn't have...2 whole games...in 5+ years.

Lifetime contract!

(12-22-2014 01:47 PM)Malachi Wrote:  

(12-22-2014 12:46 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(12-22-2014 12:38 PM)Malachi Wrote:  

(12-22-2014 12:24 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(12-22-2014 11:15 AM)Chi-Town Wrote:  Again, no answer to the question in bold.

Who did Pastner beat in the C-USA tourney final to make the NCAA tournament and how many years did that guy have under his belt at the time?

We swept Louisville last year and beat a pretty decent OK State team as well as taking the national champs to the wire at their house. How unrealistic can your expectations be?

I completely missed where he said that Pastner has never won a game he shouldnt have. I guess Oklanhoma St on a neutral floor and Lousiville at Louisville were gimmes for us last year. Just wow.

This is a perfect example of when you find yourself in a hole, stop digging. But instead of puting down the shovel, Malachi went out and got himself a backhoe with nitrous oxide, and has quickly gotten halfway to China.

If you're gonna play message board hero pay attention to the conversation. We are talking about cusa. Not last year buddy.

Just to be clear, you are admitting that Pastner has won games he shouldnt have?

I must admit I was being too kind when I said he hasn't lost any games he shouldn't have. I forgot about some of those conference doozies like SMU, Marshall, UTEP and East Carolina. Not to mention other losses like Murray St. and even SFA and OK State at home this year. And CBU - wow, exhibition sure, but when's the last time the Memphis Tigers lost to CBU in anything?

If you're looking at his entire career, then I'd give him those 2 games he won he shouldn't have...2 whole games...in 5+ years.

Lifetime contract!

Malachi your fighting a never ending battle.. You and me and a lot of others will be proved right in the not so distant future.. Most any Coach in the Country that had his teams over the past 5 plus years would have the same but probably better record than he has had.. The reason he has won 5 out of 26 top 25 games was law of averages with the talent he has had.. I have always liked Pastner and had hoped he would change with experience but his recruiting and winning percentage will steadily decline while he is still here which is already evident.. The Lawsons will not save him if he is still here!!


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(12-22-2014 03:25 PM)tigergg Wrote:  

(12-22-2014 01:47 PM)Malachi Wrote:  

(12-22-2014 12:46 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(12-22-2014 12:38 PM)Malachi Wrote:  

(12-22-2014 12:24 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  I completely missed where he said that Pastner has never won a game he shouldnt have. I guess Oklanhoma St on a neutral floor and Lousiville at Louisville were gimmes for us last year. Just wow.

This is a perfect example of when you find yourself in a hole, stop digging. But instead of puting down the shovel, Malachi went out and got himself a backhoe with nitrous oxide, and has quickly gotten halfway to China.

If you're gonna play message board hero pay attention to the conversation. We are talking about cusa. Not last year buddy.

Just to be clear, you are admitting that Pastner has won games he shouldnt have?

I must admit I was being too kind when I said he hasn't lost any games he shouldn't have. I forgot about some of those conference doozies like SMU, Marshall, UTEP and East Carolina. Not to mention other losses like Murray St. and even SFA and OK State at home this year. And CBU - wow, exhibition sure, but when's the last time the Memphis Tigers lost to CBU in anything?

If you're looking at his entire career, then I'd give him those 2 games he won he shouldn't have...2 whole games...in 5+ years.

Lifetime contract!

Malachi your fighting a never ending battle.. You and me and a lot of others will be proved right in the not so distant future.. Most any Coach in the Country that had his teams over the past 5 plus years would have the same but probably better record than he has had.. The reason he has won 5 out of 26 top 25 games was law of averages with the talent he has had.. I have always liked Pastner and had hoped he would change with experience but his recruiting and winning percentage will steadily decline while he is still here which is already evident.. The Lawsons will not save him if he is still here!!


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Pure supposition and not grounds for discussion.
Move along, please

Oh Jimminniecrickets!!


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(12-22-2014 03:35 PM)tigergg Wrote:  Oh Jimminniecrickets!!


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