1) Cure Bowl... Best Potiental Opponent of all our bowls. In a great city (one of my personal favorite places to visit) in warm sunny Florida, and I can hit up all the parks. Only disadvantage is its probably the farthest away from Troy at 6 hours. But it wouldn't Matter too much with all the perks, plus a ton of alumni in Florida. We would travel well.

2) New Orleans Bowl... Another fun city, decent opponent usually. In a warm dome. Lots of fun memories in this bowl. (Troy is the most recent SBC school in this bowl before ULL)

3) Godaddy Bowl... Mobile is a good host, I love some seafood. Not quite to the standard of the top 2, but usually get a top MAC school. Troy travels very well here. 2.5 hours away.

4) Camellia Bowl... Better than nothing. Montgomery isn't the greatest place in the world. But Troy would pack this place out. It's our back yard. (40mins away) Not to mention a large satellite campus in Montgomery.

You have 4 bowls within 6 hours of you? Man I wish we had 1 bowl within 10 hours drive.

(12-21-2014 06:21 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  You have 4 bowls within 6 hours of you? Man I wish we had 1 bowl within 10 hours drive.

Yeah man, if we're 7-5 or better we're pretty much guaranteed a bowl.

(12-21-2014 06:22 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 06:21 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  You have 4 bowls within 6 hours of you? Man I wish we had 1 bowl within 10 hours drive.

Yeah man, if we're 7-5 or better we're pretty much guaranteed a bowl.

That would be nice, to be able to drive there. And most teams do get into bowls nowadays with 7 wins but it can't hurt being able to bring a good crowd.

1. Go Daddy: Great City, and we're talking about a chance to play the MAC Champ.

2. (Tie) New Orleans: Location is great. I'm not a fan of the day or the matchup. Playing a mediocre MAC or mediocre CUSA school isn't my example of great opponent, but hey, its worked for ULL.

2. (Tie) Montgomery: Crazy enough, this is the closest of the 4 bowls to Arkansas State, and if they keep it at night, its the best travel situation for our fans. We probably as a fan base travel better here than we do to New Orleans. Yeah the stadium and opponent may stink, but we are talking about a Bowl game here...is there such thing as a bad one?

4. Orlando: Obviously Orlando is a fun place to play a game, but I have serious concerns with the level of AAC opponent we get. Its not like they are going to send their champ to play the 4th pick of the SBC Bowls (Meaning little chance at the champ unless Idaho wins the SBC) If we're playing a UCF...awesome. If we're playing Temple...Meh

(12-21-2014 06:21 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  You have 4 bowls within 6 hours of you? Man I wish we had 1 bowl within 10 hours drive.

App, Texas State, NMSU, Arkansas State, and Idaho all have huge bowl disadvantages because only one bowl is within a 6 hour drive max of their actual location. stAte less so than the rest because we have a bowl history.

(12-21-2014 06:31 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  1. Go Daddy: Great City, and we're talking about a chance to play the MAC Champ.

2. (Tie) New Orleans: Location is great. I'm not a fan of the day or the matchup. Playing a mediocre MAC or mediocre CUSA school isn't my example of great opponent, but hey, its worked for ULL.

2. (Tie) Montgomery: Crazy enough, this is the closest of the 4 bowls to Arkansas State, and if they keep it at night, its the best travel situation for our fans. We probably as a fan base travel better here than we do to New Orleans. Yeah the stadium and opponent may stink, but we are talking about a Bowl game here...is there such thing as a bad one?

4. Orlando: Obviously Orlando is a fun place to play a game, but I have serious concerns with the level of AAC opponent we get. Its not like they are going to send their champ to play the 4th pick of the SBC Bowls (Meaning little chance at the champ unless Idaho wins the SBC) If we're playing a UCF...awesome. If we're playing Temple...Meh

Do you know what # conference opponent were scheduled to play in each bowl? Like MACs #1 in go daddy, etc? Or do they not go by that anymore?

(12-21-2014 06:53 PM)GeauxUL Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 06:31 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  1. Go Daddy: Great City, and we're talking about a chance to play the MAC Champ.

2. (Tie) New Orleans: Location is great. I'm not a fan of the day or the matchup. Playing a mediocre MAC or mediocre CUSA school isn't my example of great opponent, but hey, its worked for ULL.

2. (Tie) Montgomery: Crazy enough, this is the closest of the 4 bowls to Arkansas State, and if they keep it at night, its the best travel situation for our fans. We probably as a fan base travel better here than we do to New Orleans. Yeah the stadium and opponent may stink, but we are talking about a Bowl game here...is there such thing as a bad one?

4. Orlando: Obviously Orlando is a fun place to play a game, but I have serious concerns with the level of AAC opponent we get. Its not like they are going to send their champ to play the 4th pick of the SBC Bowls (Meaning little chance at the champ unless Idaho wins the SBC) If we're playing a UCF...awesome. If we're playing Temple...Meh

Do you know what # conference opponent were scheduled to play in each bowl? Like MACs #1 in go daddy, etc? Or do they not go by that anymore?

Generally so, but not for certain because of all the G5 leagues, only CUSA has requirements set for each bowl before they can select. Rest of the leagues give bowls the power.

We do know pecking order though.

Go Daddy has 1st choice of MAC opponent. They can and have worked with the MAC In the past to allow the champ to a different bowl. But they cherish the idea of champ vs champ game.

New Orleans is a mixed bag, but you're looking at the 4th or 5th pick out of the MWC or CUSA. Though CUSA often places teams with the bowls.

Montgomery cannot pick until after Go Daddy, Boise, and Millitary Pick for the MAC. I believe they split last pick with Bahamas/MAC Bowl Rotation.

Cure has yet to pick, but one can be certain that the AAC will want to send its top teams out to its tie ins with P5 leagues. That bowl may end up with last pick of AAC schools unless they have some sort of deal that allows them to pick UCF early if the Knights are available.


Miami/Bahamas will likely have a 7 win type team out of CUSA/AAC/MAC

There's really no contest in terms of quality of opponent. We're talking 10 win MAC vs 6-7 win team from another G5 league.

(12-21-2014 07:00 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 06:53 PM)GeauxUL Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 06:31 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  1. Go Daddy: Great City, and we're talking about a chance to play the MAC Champ.

2. (Tie) New Orleans: Location is great. I'm not a fan of the day or the matchup. Playing a mediocre MAC or mediocre CUSA school isn't my example of great opponent, but hey, its worked for ULL.

2. (Tie) Montgomery: Crazy enough, this is the closest of the 4 bowls to Arkansas State, and if they keep it at night, its the best travel situation for our fans. We probably as a fan base travel better here than we do to New Orleans. Yeah the stadium and opponent may stink, but we are talking about a Bowl game here...is there such thing as a bad one?

4. Orlando: Obviously Orlando is a fun place to play a game, but I have serious concerns with the level of AAC opponent we get. Its not like they are going to send their champ to play the 4th pick of the SBC Bowls (Meaning little chance at the champ unless Idaho wins the SBC) If we're playing a UCF...awesome. If we're playing Temple...Meh

Do you know what # conference opponent were scheduled to play in each bowl? Like MACs #1 in go daddy, etc? Or do they not go by that anymore?

Generally so, but not for certain because of all the G5 leagues, only CUSA has requirements set for each bowl before they can select. Rest of the leagues give bowls the power.

We do know pecking order though.

Go Daddy has 1st choice of MAC opponent. They can and have worked with the MAC In the past to allow the champ to a different bowl. But they cherish the idea of champ vs champ game.

New Orleans is a mixed bag, but you're looking at the 4th or 5th pick out of the MWC or CUSA. Though CUSA often places teams with the bowls.

Montgomery cannot pick until after Go Daddy, Boise, and Millitary Pick for the MAC. I believe they split last pick with Bahamas/MAC Bowl Rotation.

Cure has yet to pick, but one can be certain that the AAC will want to send its top teams out to its tie ins with P5 leagues. That bowl may end up with last pick of AAC schools unless they have some sort of deal that allows them to pick UCF early if the Knights are available.


Miami/Bahamas will likely have a 7 win type team out of CUSA/AAC/MAC

There's really no contest in terms of quality of opponent. We're talking 10 win MAC vs 6-7 win team from another G5 league.

It's really unfortunate the quality of opponents we play outside of the GDB. I guess it gives us a better chance to win, but it sucks playing the MWC 6 or 7 best team this year in the NOB. Is there any way we can get better G5 opponents for our bowls or are we stuck?

(12-21-2014 07:05 PM)GeauxUL Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 07:00 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 06:53 PM)GeauxUL Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 06:31 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  1. Go Daddy: Great City, and we're talking about a chance to play the MAC Champ.

2. (Tie) New Orleans: Location is great. I'm not a fan of the day or the matchup. Playing a mediocre MAC or mediocre CUSA school isn't my example of great opponent, but hey, its worked for ULL.

2. (Tie) Montgomery: Crazy enough, this is the closest of the 4 bowls to Arkansas State, and if they keep it at night, its the best travel situation for our fans. We probably as a fan base travel better here than we do to New Orleans. Yeah the stadium and opponent may stink, but we are talking about a Bowl game here...is there such thing as a bad one?

4. Orlando: Obviously Orlando is a fun place to play a game, but I have serious concerns with the level of AAC opponent we get. Its not like they are going to send their champ to play the 4th pick of the SBC Bowls (Meaning little chance at the champ unless Idaho wins the SBC) If we're playing a UCF...awesome. If we're playing Temple...Meh

Do you know what # conference opponent were scheduled to play in each bowl? Like MACs #1 in go daddy, etc? Or do they not go by that anymore?

Generally so, but not for certain because of all the G5 leagues, only CUSA has requirements set for each bowl before they can select. Rest of the leagues give bowls the power.

We do know pecking order though.

Go Daddy has 1st choice of MAC opponent. They can and have worked with the MAC In the past to allow the champ to a different bowl. But they cherish the idea of champ vs champ game.

New Orleans is a mixed bag, but you're looking at the 4th or 5th pick out of the MWC or CUSA. Though CUSA often places teams with the bowls.

Montgomery cannot pick until after Go Daddy, Boise, and Millitary Pick for the MAC. I believe they split last pick with Bahamas/MAC Bowl Rotation.

Cure has yet to pick, but one can be certain that the AAC will want to send its top teams out to its tie ins with P5 leagues. That bowl may end up with last pick of AAC schools unless they have some sort of deal that allows them to pick UCF early if the Knights are available.


Miami/Bahamas will likely have a 7 win type team out of CUSA/AAC/MAC

There's really no contest in terms of quality of opponent. We're talking 10 win MAC vs 6-7 win team from another G5 league.

It's really unfortunate the quality of opponents we play outside of the GDB. I guess it gives us a better chance to win, but it sucks playing the MWC 6 or 7 best team this year in the NOB. Is there any way we can get better G5 opponents for our bowls or are we stuck?

You would need to win over an established bowl with a solid history to do it.

For instance, Go Daddy gets MAC #1 because they are an established bowl game that has been in existence for quite a while, and has had a long relationship with the MAC. We just happened to take advantage of a Falling out between Go Daddy and CUSA and got the other tie in. (I think a team didn't want to play in Mobile for a bigger game, and CUSA supported the team.)

New Orleans, Montgomery, and Cure are all bowl games created partially by the SBC to help our own bowl tie in situation. We may have found a partner league, but in reality that league did it because they needed a 5th or 6th tie in, while we did it because we needed a 2nd tie in.

The way to do that is to get our lazy commissioner off the golf course long enough to set up a backup deal with a regional bowl, and then wait for that bowl to have a falling out with a league, and be prepared to jump right in.

I'll let you know when King Karl gets on that.

A Sunbelt bowl or strong tie-in the Houston, Dallas, San Antonio area should would be nice.......perhaps eventually something in Little Rock.

And for the record, put an Ole Miss, Miss State, or Vanderbilt in the New Orleans bowl against the Cajuns with a decent start time and no Saints game the next day and you might hit 60,000 fans.

(12-21-2014 08:07 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  And for the record, put an Ole Miss, Miss State, or Vanderbilt in the New Orleans bowl against the Cajuns with a decent start time and no Saints game the next day and you might hit 60,000 fans.

But that will obviously never happen..

(12-21-2014 07:10 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 07:05 PM)GeauxUL Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 07:00 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 06:53 PM)GeauxUL Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 06:31 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  1. Go Daddy: Great City, and we're talking about a chance to play the MAC Champ.

2. (Tie) New Orleans: Location is great. I'm not a fan of the day or the matchup. Playing a mediocre MAC or mediocre CUSA school isn't my example of great opponent, but hey, its worked for ULL.

2. (Tie) Montgomery: Crazy enough, this is the closest of the 4 bowls to Arkansas State, and if they keep it at night, its the best travel situation for our fans. We probably as a fan base travel better here than we do to New Orleans. Yeah the stadium and opponent may stink, but we are talking about a Bowl game here...is there such thing as a bad one?

4. Orlando: Obviously Orlando is a fun place to play a game, but I have serious concerns with the level of AAC opponent we get. Its not like they are going to send their champ to play the 4th pick of the SBC Bowls (Meaning little chance at the champ unless Idaho wins the SBC) If we're playing a UCF...awesome. If we're playing Temple...Meh

Do you know what # conference opponent were scheduled to play in each bowl? Like MACs #1 in go daddy, etc? Or do they not go by that anymore?

Generally so, but not for certain because of all the G5 leagues, only CUSA has requirements set for each bowl before they can select. Rest of the leagues give bowls the power.

We do know pecking order though.

Go Daddy has 1st choice of MAC opponent. They can and have worked with the MAC In the past to allow the champ to a different bowl. But they cherish the idea of champ vs champ game.

New Orleans is a mixed bag, but you're looking at the 4th or 5th pick out of the MWC or CUSA. Though CUSA often places teams with the bowls.

Montgomery cannot pick until after Go Daddy, Boise, and Millitary Pick for the MAC. I believe they split last pick with Bahamas/MAC Bowl Rotation.

Cure has yet to pick, but one can be certain that the AAC will want to send its top teams out to its tie ins with P5 leagues. That bowl may end up with last pick of AAC schools unless they have some sort of deal that allows them to pick UCF early if the Knights are available.


Miami/Bahamas will likely have a 7 win type team out of CUSA/AAC/MAC

There's really no contest in terms of quality of opponent. We're talking 10 win MAC vs 6-7 win team from another G5 league.

It's really unfortunate the quality of opponents we play outside of the GDB. I guess it gives us a better chance to win, but it sucks playing the MWC 6 or 7 best team this year in the NOB. Is there any way we can get better G5 opponents for our bowls or are we stuck?

You would need to win over an established bowl with a solid history to do it.

For instance, Go Daddy gets MAC #1 because they are an established bowl game that has been in existence for quite a while, and has had a long relationship with the MAC. We just happened to take advantage of a Falling out between Go Daddy and CUSA and got the other tie in. (I think a team didn't want to play in Mobile for a bigger game, and CUSA supported the team.)

New Orleans, Montgomery, and Cure are all bowl games created partially by the SBC to help our own bowl tie in situation. We may have found a partner league, but in reality that league did it because they needed a 5th or 6th tie in, while we did it because we needed a 2nd tie in.

The way to do that is to get our lazy commissioner off the golf course long enough to set up a backup deal with a regional bowl, and then wait for that bowl to have a falling out with a league, and be prepared to jump right in.

I'll let you know when King Karl gets on that.

What's the future of the go daddy regarding conference tie ins are concerned? Contract time?

Are we actually bitching about our past opponents in the NO bowl? LOL!

Don't let chief pull your chain. state would give their left testicle to play in New Orleans.

You want out of the NO Bowl? Win the games we are suppose to win.

I don't want to hear about tie ins etc... There are trades worked all the time.

If we wouldn't have lost to App St we had other possibilities.

Ill take NO over any other bowl except Orlando.

Z

I will rank the number one bowl by which ever one has the guts to invite TXST.

(12-21-2014 08:13 PM)GeauxUL Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 07:10 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 07:05 PM)GeauxUL Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 07:00 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 06:53 PM)GeauxUL Wrote:  Do you know what # conference opponent were scheduled to play in each bowl? Like MACs #1 in go daddy, etc? Or do they not go by that anymore?

Generally so, but not for certain because of all the G5 leagues, only CUSA has requirements set for each bowl before they can select. Rest of the leagues give bowls the power.

We do know pecking order though.

Go Daddy has 1st choice of MAC opponent. They can and have worked with the MAC In the past to allow the champ to a different bowl. But they cherish the idea of champ vs champ game.

New Orleans is a mixed bag, but you're looking at the 4th or 5th pick out of the MWC or CUSA. Though CUSA often places teams with the bowls.

Montgomery cannot pick until after Go Daddy, Boise, and Millitary Pick for the MAC. I believe they split last pick with Bahamas/MAC Bowl Rotation.

Cure has yet to pick, but one can be certain that the AAC will want to send its top teams out to its tie ins with P5 leagues. That bowl may end up with last pick of AAC schools unless they have some sort of deal that allows them to pick UCF early if the Knights are available.


Miami/Bahamas will likely have a 7 win type team out of CUSA/AAC/MAC

There's really no contest in terms of quality of opponent. We're talking 10 win MAC vs 6-7 win team from another G5 league.

It's really unfortunate the quality of opponents we play outside of the GDB. I guess it gives us a better chance to win, but it sucks playing the MWC 6 or 7 best team this year in the NOB. Is there any way we can get better G5 opponents for our bowls or are we stuck?

You would need to win over an established bowl with a solid history to do it.

For instance, Go Daddy gets MAC #1 because they are an established bowl game that has been in existence for quite a while, and has had a long relationship with the MAC. We just happened to take advantage of a Falling out between Go Daddy and CUSA and got the other tie in. (I think a team didn't want to play in Mobile for a bigger game, and CUSA supported the team.)

New Orleans, Montgomery, and Cure are all bowl games created partially by the SBC to help our own bowl tie in situation. We may have found a partner league, but in reality that league did it because they needed a 5th or 6th tie in, while we did it because we needed a 2nd tie in.

The way to do that is to get our lazy commissioner off the golf course long enough to set up a backup deal with a regional bowl, and then wait for that bowl to have a falling out with a league, and be prepared to jump right in.

I'll let you know when King Karl gets on that.

What's the future of the go daddy regarding conference tie ins are concerned? Contract time?

Contract expires 2017. If a combination of two of stAte, USA, and ULL are still in the league by that year, I expect they re-up.

(12-21-2014 08:26 PM)zeebart21 Wrote:  Are we actually bitching about our past opponents in the NO bowl? LOL!

Don't let chief pull your chain. state would give their left testicle to play in New Orleans.

You want out of the NO Bowl? Win the games we are suppose to win.

I don't want to hear about tie ins etc... There are trades worked all the time.

If we wouldn't have lost to App St we had other possibilities.

Ill take NO over any other bowl except Orlando.

Z

Not every single year. We want to play in New Orleans because our one New Orleans Bowl was played in scenic Lafayette, LA at our own personal house of horrors. We want the opportunity to play in NOLA.

However, most ASU fans will tell you that we would not have traveled well to New Orleans this year, and I'm not the only one who has talked about preferring the Alabama based bowls if Nola continues to kick off at 10:00 in the morning.

Side note: I have no actual source for this, but I expect if the Cajuns go to CUSA, that Go Daddy will use that as leverage to try and get the #1 pick out of NOLA's hands in the 2017 negotiations. They might try it regardless what CUSA does.

(12-21-2014 08:09 PM)GeauxUL Wrote:  

(12-21-2014 08:07 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  And for the record, put an Ole Miss, Miss State, or Vanderbilt in the New Orleans bowl against the Cajuns with a decent start time and no Saints game the next day and you might hit 60,000 fans.

But that will obviously never happen..

There is talk of the NO Bowl getting a regular season game in the Dome between UL and a BCS school every year. UL would obviously be the home team. We had 54K against Toolame. Put an Ole Miss, aTm or Miss St as the opponent we'll crush that 54K

Z