Before anyone else goes crazy about how they should know and accept their place or whatever. One of the biggest reasons we added Georgia Southern and App State is because we wanted a league full of teams that would not just accept their place.
Maybe we didn't quite expect the league to have a down enough year that they would come in and do it immediately, but this is why we added them.
So we won it because the league was down enough, got it, too bad no one else took advantage of the league being down.
Whether you would have won it or not, there is no debate the league was down... What was our OOC record as a conference? Anybody have that on hand? We all sucked but OOC as a group... And don't even tell me about the almost, they don't have a column for almost... We went from highest rated to crap and everyone school did their part in that, starting with the Cajuns.
Before anyone else goes crazy about how they should know and accept their place or whatever. One of the biggest reasons we added Georgia Southern and App State is because we wanted a league full of teams that would not just accept their place.
Maybe we didn't quite expect the league to have a down enough year that they would come in and do it immediately, but this is why we added them.
So we won it because the league was down enough, got it, too bad no one else took advantage of the league being down.
Whether you would have won it or not, there is no debate the league was down... What was our OOC record as a conference? Anybody have that on hand? We all sucked but OOC as a group... And don't even tell me about the almost, they don't have a column for almost... We went from highest rated to crap and everyone school did their part in that, starting with the Cajuns.
Someone had to win it and it was us. So if we suck, everyone else sucks worse.
(12-12-2014 02:00 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote: 1975 A-State is the best bowl team that never was.
I watched that team play, and A-State had one heck of a team that year. I also remember thinking at the time that it was a crying shame that they didn't get to play in a bowl game. For some reason, I remember their record being 11-0 that year. Is that correct?
Before anyone else goes crazy about how they should know and accept their place or whatever. One of the biggest reasons we added Georgia Southern and App State is because we wanted a league full of teams that would not just accept their place.
Maybe we didn't quite expect the league to have a down enough year that they would come in and do it immediately, but this is why we added them.
So we won it because the league was down enough, got it, too bad no one else took advantage of the league being down.
Whether you would have won it or not, there is no debate the league was down... What was our OOC record as a conference? Anybody have that on hand? We all sucked but OOC as a group... And don't even tell me about the almost, they don't have a column for almost... We went from highest rated to crap and everyone school did their part in that, starting with the Cajuns.
Someone had to win it and it was us. So if we suck, everyone else sucks worse.
I never said that, don't think you suck, you earned it but as group, it was a down year, and out of everyone we dropped the ball the hardest.
(12-12-2014 02:00 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote: 1975 A-State is the best bowl team that never was.
I watched that team play, and A-State had one heck of a team that year. I also remember thinking at the time that it was a crying shame that they didn't get to play in a bowl game. For some reason, I remember their record being 11-0 that year. Is that correct?
Yup. 11-0 and no place to go.
Led nation in rushing yards in 1st year of D1. Allowed 7.4 points per game.
Before anyone else goes crazy about how they should know and accept their place or whatever. One of the biggest reasons we added Georgia Southern and App State is because we wanted a league full of teams that would not just accept their place.
Maybe we didn't quite expect the league to have a down enough year that they would come in and do it immediately, but this is why we added them.
So we won it because the league was down enough, got it, too bad no one else took advantage of the league being down.
Whether you would have won it or not, there is no debate the league was down... What was our OOC record as a conference? Anybody have that on hand? We all sucked but OOC as a group... And don't even tell me about the almost, they don't have a column for almost... We went from highest rated to crap and everyone school did their part in that, starting with the Cajuns.
Someone had to win it and it was us. So if we suck, everyone else sucks worse.
(12-12-2014 02:00 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote: 1975 A-State is the best bowl team that never was.
I watched that team play, and A-State had one heck of a team that year. I also remember thinking at the time that it was a crying shame that they didn't get to play in a bowl game. For some reason, I remember their record being 11-0 that year. Is that correct?
Yup. 11-0 and no place to go.
Led nation in rushing yards in 1st year of D1. Allowed 7.4 points per game.
(12-12-2014 02:00 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote: 1975 A-State is the best bowl team that never was.
I watched that team play, and A-State had one heck of a team that year. I also remember thinking at the time that it was a crying shame that they didn't get to play in a bowl game. For some reason, I remember their record being 11-0 that year. Is that correct?
The Independence Bowl was created because of those guys. I always wanted for us to go to the Independence Bowl so they could be recognized. But.....a 6-6 SEC team is cooler.
Before anyone else goes crazy about how they should know and accept their place or whatever. One of the biggest reasons we added Georgia Southern and App State is because we wanted a league full of teams that would not just accept their place.
Maybe we didn't quite expect the league to have a down enough year that they would come in and do it immediately, but this is why we added them.
So we won it because the league was down enough, got it, too bad no one else took advantage of the league being down.
Whether you would have won it or not, there is no debate the league was down... What was our OOC record as a conference? Anybody have that on hand? We all sucked but OOC as a group... And don't even tell me about the almost, they don't have a column for almost... We went from highest rated to crap and everyone school did their part in that, starting with the Cajuns.
Someone had to win it and it was us. So if we suck, everyone else sucks worse.
I never said that, don't think you suck, you earned it but as group, it was a down year, and out of everyone we dropped the ball the hardest.
lol................A new team comes in that all the current teams dont want to be successful until they have paid some dues, they win the conference and all of a sudden its because it was a down year in the conference.
(12-13-2014 10:08 PM)eagle9098 Wrote: lol................A new team comes in that all the current teams dont want to be successful until they have paid some dues, they win the conference and all of a sudden its because it was a down year in the conference.
If you want, I can post facts, or do you not understand facts? Fact is, you guys had a hell of a season and if the rule wasn't there I'd have been first in line to root for you in a bowl game. Same goes for App but, let's not let us really forget facts that in 2013 we were ranked the number 1 G5 conference and this year we hit rock bottom of 10 conferences. If you don't understand that as being a big drop off, I can't help you.
Fact:
2013 OOC 19-21 .475 WP (includes WKU) - 15-20 .429 WP (without WKU)
2014 OOC 12-32 .273 WP (includes 4 new teams) - 8-20 .286 WP (without 4 new teams)
So, the second set are the teams that were here this year and last. I see a drop off, do you?
That's all I can do. If you don't see a significant drop...I guess there's no convincing.
(12-13-2014 10:08 PM)eagle9098 Wrote: lol................A new team comes in that all the current teams dont want to be successful until they have paid some dues, they win the conference and all of a sudden its because it was a down year in the conference.
If you want, I can post facts, or do you not understand facts? Fact is, you guys had a hell of a season and if the rule wasn't there I'd have been first in line to root for you in a bowl game. Same goes for App but, let's not let us really forget facts that in 2013 we were ranked the number 1 G5 conference and this year we hit rock bottom of 10 conferences. If you don't understand that as being a big drop off, I can't help you.
Fact:
2013 OOC 19-21 .475 WP (includes WKU) - 15-20 .429 WP (without WKU)
2014 OOC 12-32 .273 WP (includes 4 new teams) - 8-20 .286 WP (without 4 new teams)
So, the second set are the teams that were here this year and last. I see a drop off, do you?
That's all I can do. If you don't see a significant drop...I guess there's no convincing.
Not trying to argue your post, just curious. Was last season's OOC a lot harder than this year? I ask because I don't know.
(12-13-2014 10:08 PM)eagle9098 Wrote: lol................A new team comes in that all the current teams dont want to be successful until they have paid some dues, they win the conference and all of a sudden its because it was a down year in the conference.
If you want, I can post facts, or do you not understand facts? Fact is, you guys had a hell of a season and if the rule wasn't there I'd have been first in line to root for you in a bowl game. Same goes for App but, let's not let us really forget facts that in 2013 we were ranked the number 1 G5 conference and this year we hit rock bottom of 10 conferences. If you don't understand that as being a big drop off, I can't help you.
Fact:
2013 OOC 19-21 .475 WP (includes WKU) - 15-20 .429 WP (without WKU)
2014 OOC 12-32 .273 WP (includes 4 new teams) - 8-20 .286 WP (without 4 new teams)
So, the second set are the teams that were here this year and last. I see a drop off, do you?
That's all I can do. If you don't see a significant drop...I guess there's no convincing.
Not trying to argue your post, just curious. Was last season's OOC a lot harder than this year? I ask because I don't know.
I can only post for TXST. I just went through CFB data warehouse to get this and don't have inclinations to do all that extra work.
TXST 2013 4-1
Wyoming
TTech
Southern Miss
SFA
Idaho
2014 2-2
Navy
UAPB
Tulsa
Illinois
Still think we gave away the Illinois game.
(12-13-2014 10:08 PM)eagle9098 Wrote: lol................A new team comes in that all the current teams dont want to be successful until they have paid some dues, they win the conference and all of a sudden its because it was a down year in the conference.
If you want, I can post facts, or do you not understand facts? Fact is, you guys had a hell of a season and if the rule wasn't there I'd have been first in line to root for you in a bowl game. Same goes for App but, let's not let us really forget facts that in 2013 we were ranked the number 1 G5 conference and this year we hit rock bottom of 10 conferences. If you don't understand that as being a big drop off, I can't help you.
Fact:
2013 OOC 19-21 .475 WP (includes WKU) - 15-20 .429 WP (without WKU)
2014 OOC 12-32 .273 WP (includes 4 new teams) - 8-20 .286 WP (without 4 new teams)
So, the second set are the teams that were here this year and last. I see a drop off, do you?
That's all I can do. If you don't see a significant drop...I guess there's no convincing.
Not trying to argue your post, just curious. Was last season's OOC a lot harder than this year? I ask because I don't know.
I can only post for TXST. I just went through CFB data warehouse to get this and don't have inclinations to do all that extra work.
TXST 2013 4-1
Wyoming
TTech
Southern Miss
SFA
Idaho
2014 2-2
Navy
UAPB
Tulsa
Illinois
Still think we gave away the Illinois game.
The purpose of this thread is to stroke our ego, CatMom.
But since you posted that, it is some very interesting information. Firstly, congrats on your OOC performance last year, that's impressive. But the end of the season doesn't seem to fit with the rest of the year. What happened?
My vote would go to the 2007 Troy team which defeated Oklahoma State 41-23, played tough vs Tebow & the Gators (31-59), vs McFadden/Jones & Arkansas (26-46), and almost upset Knowshon Moreno and UGA (34-44).
Troy's overall conference record was 6-1, we lost our final game to FAU (32-38).
Troy was receiving Top 25 votes for 5 weeks, highest ranking was #33 (AP poll).
Top NFL talent on that team included CB Leodis McKelvin (RD1, #11 overall), WR Jerrel Jernigan (RD3), and CB Elbert Mack.
(This post was last modified: 12-14-2014 05:09 AM by T2003.)
(12-13-2014 10:08 PM)eagle9098 Wrote: lol................A new team comes in that all the current teams dont want to be successful until they have paid some dues, they win the conference and all of a sudden its because it was a down year in the conference.
If you want, I can post facts, or do you not understand facts? Fact is, you guys had a hell of a season and if the rule wasn't there I'd have been first in line to root for you in a bowl game. Same goes for App but, let's not let us really forget facts that in 2013 we were ranked the number 1 G5 conference and this year we hit rock bottom of 10 conferences. If you don't understand that as being a big drop off, I can't help you.
Fact:
2013 OOC 19-21 .475 WP (includes WKU) - 15-20 .429 WP (without WKU)
2014 OOC 12-32 .273 WP (includes 4 new teams) - 8-20 .286 WP (without 4 new teams)
So, the second set are the teams that were here this year and last. I see a drop off, do you?
That's all I can do. If you don't see a significant drop...I guess there's no convincing.
Not trying to argue your post, just curious. Was last season's OOC a lot harder than this year? I ask because I don't know.
I can only post for TXST. I just went through CFB data warehouse to get this and don't have inclinations to do all that extra work.
TXST 2013 4-1
Wyoming
TTech
Southern Miss
SFA
Idaho
2014 2-2
Navy
UAPB
Tulsa
Illinois
Still think we gave away the Illinois game.
The purpose of this thread is to stroke our ego, CatMom.
But since you posted that, it is some very interesting information. Firstly, congrats on your OOC performance last year, that's impressive. But the end of the season doesn't seem to fit with the rest of the year. What happened?
(12-13-2014 10:08 PM)eagle9098 Wrote: lol................A new team comes in that all the current teams dont want to be successful until they have paid some dues, they win the conference and all of a sudden its because it was a down year in the conference.
If you want, I can post facts, or do you not understand facts? Fact is, you guys had a hell of a season and if the rule wasn't there I'd have been first in line to root for you in a bowl game. Same goes for App but, let's not let us really forget facts that in 2013 we were ranked the number 1 G5 conference and this year we hit rock bottom of 10 conferences. If you don't understand that as being a big drop off, I can't help you.
Fact:
2013 OOC 19-21 .475 WP (includes WKU) - 15-20 .429 WP (without WKU)
2014 OOC 12-32 .273 WP (includes 4 new teams) - 8-20 .286 WP (without 4 new teams)
So, the second set are the teams that were here this year and last. I see a drop off, do you?
That's all I can do. If you don't see a significant drop...I guess there's no convincing.
He's one of the GSUFANS.com chest beaters. Ignore him and he'll go away.
(12-13-2014 10:08 PM)eagle9098 Wrote: lol................A new team comes in that all the current teams dont want to be successful until they have paid some dues, they win the conference and all of a sudden its because it was a down year in the conference.
If you want, I can post facts, or do you not understand facts? Fact is, you guys had a hell of a season and if the rule wasn't there I'd have been first in line to root for you in a bowl game. Same goes for App but, let's not let us really forget facts that in 2013 we were ranked the number 1 G5 conference and this year we hit rock bottom of 10 conferences. If you don't understand that as being a big drop off, I can't help you.
Fact:
2013 OOC 19-21 .475 WP (includes WKU) - 15-20 .429 WP (without WKU)
2014 OOC 12-32 .273 WP (includes 4 new teams) - 8-20 .286 WP (without 4 new teams)
So, the second set are the teams that were here this year and last. I see a drop off, do you?
That's all I can do. If you don't see a significant drop...I guess there's no convincing.
He's one of the GSUFANS.com chest beaters. Ignore him and he'll go away.
He's a guy that played the game and has at least one National Championship ring as part of the first ever 15-0 team. I think he's allowed to talk about competition between teams.
(12-13-2014 10:08 PM)eagle9098 Wrote: lol................A new team comes in that all the current teams dont want to be successful until they have paid some dues, they win the conference and all of a sudden its because it was a down year in the conference.
If you want, I can post facts, or do you not understand facts? Fact is, you guys had a hell of a season and if the rule wasn't there I'd have been first in line to root for you in a bowl game. Same goes for App but, let's not let us really forget facts that in 2013 we were ranked the number 1 G5 conference and this year we hit rock bottom of 10 conferences. If you don't understand that as being a big drop off, I can't help you.
Fact:
2013 OOC 19-21 .475 WP (includes WKU) - 15-20 .429 WP (without WKU)
2014 OOC 12-32 .273 WP (includes 4 new teams) - 8-20 .286 WP (without 4 new teams)
So, the second set are the teams that were here this year and last. I see a drop off, do you?
That's all I can do. If you don't see a significant drop...I guess there's no convincing.
He's one of the GSUFANS.com chest beaters. Ignore him and he'll go away.
He's a guy that played the game and has at least one National Championship ring as part of the first ever 15-0 team. I think he's allowed to talk about competition between teams.
Exactly, I'm guessing he understands more about "facts" when it comes to football than a disgruntled cat fan with a huge chip on her shoulder when it comes to the Eagles. Nice moderator, what a joke.
